A Police Invitation for a Voluntary Interview

A Police Invitation for a Voluntary Interview

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Forester1965

1,535 posts

4 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Witness statement provided, witness turns up in court and gives evidence based on statement, yes?

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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Hants PHer said:
ConnectionError said:
r3g :- it’s getting embarrassing now.

Sometimes it is best to stop digging and admit you are out of your depth and wrong.

Local villages used to have a term for people such as you!
Many of you are attempting to reason with r3g and show him the error of his ways. That's your prerogative of course, but my advice is that you're wasting your time. This is someone who doesn't think Covid exists, and believes that Covid vaccines are causing a tidal wave of illness including heart conditions and cancer. See the Covid thread in NP&E for, err, evidence.

He's probably on a wind up and should be treated accordingly, because for him to actually believe the nonsense he posts would mean he was, frankly, unhinged.
It's definitely time to disengage then.

hidetheelephants

24,462 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th April
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A thread about public/police interaction attracting nutters, how unusual.

blueg33

35,974 posts

225 months

Thursday 4th April
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Forester1965 said:
Evidence can be as straightforward as one person's word. If you're not prepared to deny an accusation.ans it otherwise passes the evidential and public interest tests, it can go to court without your account of events.

Bear in mind the words of the Caution and that courts are allowed to draw inference from your earlier refusal to provide an account (in other words consider you might be making it up when you suddenly want to defend yourself in court having said nothing in interview).
Do you caution people attending a voluntary interview?

Forester1965

1,535 posts

4 months

Thursday 4th April
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Yes if you want to be able to use that evidence in court.

Nibbles_bits

1,080 posts

40 months

Thursday 4th April
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blueg33 said:
Forester1965 said:
Evidence can be as straightforward as one person's word. If you're not prepared to deny an accusation.ans it otherwise passes the evidential and public interest tests, it can go to court without your account of events.

Bear in mind the words of the Caution and that courts are allowed to draw inference from your earlier refusal to provide an account (in other words consider you might be making it up when you suddenly want to defend yourself in court having said nothing in interview).
Do you caution people attending a voluntary interview?
Yes, because it's a PACE compliant interview.

The Count

3,268 posts

264 months

Thursday 4th April
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It's been a few weeks. Have you heard anything Glassman? smile

ED209

5,746 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th April
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The Count said:
It's been a few weeks. Have you heard anything Glassman? smile
It’s entirely possible he hasn’t been.

I was told that the issue I have at the moment was been sent to the CPS for a decision on 13th December, it eventually reached them on the 21st February and their service level agreement says there is a 28 day turnaround. I think we are now on day 42 with no result.

Aside from the fact the case evidentially should be nowhere near the cps it’s now almost 7 months since an incident that lasted literally 2-3 seconds occurred and the totally inept constabulary dealing still haven’t sorted it. Meanwhile life is on hold and the stress of waiting for the decision is huge. I am a serving officer in another force and to be honest the whole thing has made me think - if the police are really this useless what’s the point in me carrying on trying to do my best? It’s causing me real mental dilemma.

Meanwhile the “witness” in the case continues to behave appallingly with impunity, in the last 36 hours alone she has breached her restraining order twice, this has been reported but I know that nothing will be done about it because she is too hard for the cops to deal with.

Edited by ED209 on Thursday 4th April 16:46

MrBogSmith

2,132 posts

35 months

Thursday 4th April
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You know any matter involving a police officer will be looked at to the nth degree.

When I served the FIM sent a DSI (Death or Serious Injury) referral to the IPCC (as they were called at the time) over a use of force matter I was involved with. I thought it was a joke as it was no where near serious enough for that and could have easily been dealt with by the force PSD.

Alas, the IPCC conducted an independent investigation (their highest level). Total waste of time and dragged out for 9 months until the inevitable NFA.

What is your fed rep / solicitor doing? Are you complaining?




Nibbles_bits

1,080 posts

40 months

Thursday 4th April
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MrBogSmith said:
You know any matter involving a police officer will be looked at to the nth degree.

When I served the FIM sent a DSI (Death or Serious Injury) referral to the IPCC (as they were called at the time) over a use of force matter I was involved with. I thought it was a joke as it was no where near serious enough for that and could have easily been dealt with by the force PSD.

Alas, the IPCC conducted an independent investigation (their highest level). Total waste of time and dragged out for 9 months until the inevitable NFA.

What is your fed rep / solicitor doing? Are you complaining?
His fed rep won't be saying anything. ED209 has a nightmare neighbour.