HC rule 129

[J__Wood]

simon_harris said:

that has always been my understanding, and that it is a no crossing rule not a no overtaking rule - ie so long as you don't cross the lines you can overtake (ie cycles, horses etc)

With the two metre gap rule for overtaking horses and the at least (when driving over 30 mph) 1.5 metres for bikes surely it is far better to take advantage of the- you may cross or straddle

(f) in order to pass a pedal cycle moving at a speed not exceeding 10 mph;"
(g) in order to pass a horse that is being ridden or led at a speed not exceeding 10 mph;

and cross or straddle the white lines.

There can't be many roads with a solid white line where you've space for a horse @1m(?), then a 2 metre gap, then 2m+ for you in your car without crossing the solid white line?

Even more space if it were being led, on the plus side pretty sure no one is going to be leading a horse at more than 10mph.

[Vipers]

martinbiz said:

simon_harris said:

TooLateForAName said:

My view has always been that the line on your side defines the rule for you.

so solid your side dashed other side - you cant cross, people in other lane can.
dashed your side, solid other - you can cross they cant
double solid, neither can cross

that has always been my understanding, and that it is a no crossing rule not a no overtaking rule - ie so long as you don't cross the lines you can overtake (ie cycles, horses etc)

Your understanding would be wrong, read the thread or the relevant legislation

Absolutely correct, save him looking for it this is what the Legislation says, which mirrors rule 129 except 129 doesnt mention double white lines, which in my opinion is because it doesnt matter what line is on the opposite side of the road, so 129 says it all, except as I said earlier someone was adamant it didnt apply to double white lines, which was incorrectly shown on an RAC web page, anyhow, all sorted now, this is what the regulations say:-

2016 No. 362 The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016

Schedule 9 Part 8

"subject to sub-paragraph (5), every vehicle proceeding on any length of road along which the marking has been so placed, as viewed in the direction of travel of the vehicle, a continuous line is on the left of a broken line or of another continuous line, must be so driven as to keep the first-mentioned continuous line on the right hand or off side of the vehicle."

With the exceptions:

"Nothing is to be taken to prohibit a vehicle from being driven across, or so as to straddle, the continuous line referred to in that paragraph, if it is safe to do so and if necessary to do so—

(a) to enable the vehicle to enter, from the side of the road on which it is proceeding, land or premises adjacent to the length of road on which the line is placed, or another road joining that road;

(b) in order to pass a stationary vehicle;

(c) owing to circumstances outside the control of the driver;

(d) in order to avoid an accident;

(e) in order to pass a road maintenance vehicle which is in use, is moving at a speed not exceeding 10 mph, and is displaying to the rear a sign provided for at item 9 or 10 of the sign table in Part 6 of Schedule 13;

(f) in order to pass a pedal cycle moving at a speed not exceeding 10 mph;"

(g) in order to pass a horse that is being ridden or led at a speed not exceeding 10 mph; or

(h) for the purposes of complying with any direction of a constable in uniform, a traffic officer in uniform or a traffic warden.

[the cueball]

I have a long section of double solid lines on my morning commute which is always tailed right back for around 2 miles... even worse at the moment due to ongoing roadworks.

I overtake all the time on my motorbike, had a few beeps from time to time and couple of people have tried to stop me, there are sometimes police vehicles in the queue and they have never done anything about it.

[Vipers]

the cueball said:

I have a long section of double solid lines on my morning commute which is always tailed right back for around 2 miles... even worse at the moment due to ongoing roadworks.

I overtake all the time on my motorbike, had a few beeps from time to time and couple of people have tried to stop me, there are sometimes police vehicles in the queue and they have never done anything about it.

I just hate drivers who try to block motorcylists, on stationary traffic I always keep as far left as I can to leave a gap on the outside, others try their best to block.