Speed Awareness Course
Discussion
BertBert said:
C70Rev said:
Managed to almost get thrown off my course because I wasn’t bowing down to the speed kills mantra.
Trying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
Contrary to the other poster, I applaud this. Why should everyone sit there like sheep listening to a load of bTrying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
ks about the huge dangers of marginal speeding which is just nonsense. I say argue away.GasEngineer said:
BertBert said:
C70Rev said:
Managed to almost get thrown off my course because I wasn’t bowing down to the speed kills mantra.
Trying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
Contrary to the other poster, I applaud this. Why should everyone sit there like sheep listening to a load of bTrying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
ks about the huge dangers of marginal speeding which is just nonsense. I say argue away.BertBert said:
C70Rev said:
Managed to almost get thrown off my course because I wasn’t bowing down to the speed kills mantra.
Trying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
Contrary to the other poster, I applaud this. Why should everyone sit there like sheep listening to a load of bTrying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
ks about the huge dangers of marginal speeding which is just nonsense. I say argue away.
But in practice, arguing won't get you anywhere. Better just to keep your mouth shut and absorb valid learning points, if any.
bigothunter said:
turbobloke said:
Zero mph more like.
The incredibly unpalatable point about priorities is here again. Anything which saves one more life on the roads...will cost money and in particular ever lower limits with new signage, road furniture and road paint, etc, could be used to save more lives elsewhere.
Emotion over reason.
Such as avoidable deaths in hospital, suicides and falling down the stairs The incredibly unpalatable point about priorities is here again. Anything which saves one more life on the roads...will cost money and in particular ever lower limits with new signage, road furniture and road paint, etc, could be used to save more lives elsewhere.
Emotion over reason.
IMHO, we've lost the balance of perspective.
eldar said:
bigothunter said:
turbobloke said:
Zero mph more like.
The incredibly unpalatable point about priorities is here again. Anything which saves one more life on the roads...will cost money and in particular ever lower limits with new signage, road furniture and road paint, etc, could be used to save more lives elsewhere.
Emotion over reason.
Such as avoidable deaths in hospital, suicides and falling down the stairs The incredibly unpalatable point about priorities is here again. Anything which saves one more life on the roads...will cost money and in particular ever lower limits with new signage, road furniture and road paint, etc, could be used to save more lives elsewhere.
Emotion over reason.
IMHO, we've lost the balance of perspective.
Looking before covid to 2016/2017 and so avoid accusations of cherry picking, the avoidable deaths in hospital figure (from infections caught in hospital after admission for something completely different) as mentioned above, for England only, was given as 22,800 not exactly a 'healthy' total and avoidable. This was in an open access BMJ paper. Add in Scotland, Wales, N Ireland - and NHS staff - the actual total will be even more appalling. In terms of limited resources, our internationally low road casualty total is deep into the law of diminishing returns, if lives saved actually matter then gov't needs to prioritise better and give pressure groups some straight talking.
vonhosen said:
But again, speed limits are not just about safety/death prevention, despite people constantly talking about them as if they are.
Yes, plenty of people get done in the motorway variables that are used for traffic management. Colleague did one after being snapped at 46 at 6.15 AM on a fairly quiet M42 - there was no visible reason for the limit. On the course he went on half the attendees had been caught the same way…..
Managed to almost get thrown off my course because I wasn’t bowing down to the speed kills mantra.
Trying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
Trying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
bigothunter said:
GasEngineer said:
BertBert said:
C70Rev said:
Managed to almost get thrown off my course because I wasn’t bowing down to the speed kills mantra.
Trying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
Contrary to the other poster, I applaud this. Why should everyone sit there like sheep listening to a load of bTrying to point out that it’s inappropriate speed which kills seems to confuse the instructor.
Having local police on site doing an audit probably didn’t help.
I like to believe this is still a free democratic country, however that do apply on a speed awareness course.
ks about the huge dangers of marginal speeding which is just nonsense. I say argue away.What I love about these threads is the daring edgelord stick it to da man types, who,
-Broke the law.
-Were dumb enough to get caught.
-Choose to take the "get out of jail free" card of an SAC.
-Waste everyone's time with their crap Citizen Smith impersonation.
-Trot out the usual assortment of bullst tropes about funding the christmas party, etc.
-Get the threat of exclusion from the SAC, then the tail goes between the legs and they complete the course like a good little boy. Except now they also look like a) an utter bellend and b) a coward.
Nobody forced it on you, why go along just to complain about how wrong it all is? Oh yeah, to try and avoid the points you earned. You don't accept it? Fine, plead not guilty, have your day in court.
(I've been on a course, christ knows what it takes to get threatened with exclusion. We had a couple of right tedious bellends on ours and exclusion was never even mentioned)
Just remember - while you tell your hugely original gag about topping up police pay, everyone else in the room is rolling their eyes and calling you a dhead under their breath.
More seriously - been caught? Taking the SAC? Accept you got caught and that maybe, just maybe, you might learn something if you go in with an open mind. Even if it's only how worryingly dense the rest of the class is.
-Broke the law.
-Were dumb enough to get caught.
-Choose to take the "get out of jail free" card of an SAC.
-Waste everyone's time with their crap Citizen Smith impersonation.
-Trot out the usual assortment of bulls
t tropes about funding the christmas party, etc.-Get the threat of exclusion from the SAC, then the tail goes between the legs and they complete the course like a good little boy. Except now they also look like a) an utter bellend and b) a coward.
Nobody forced it on you, why go along just to complain about how wrong it all is? Oh yeah, to try and avoid the points you earned. You don't accept it? Fine, plead not guilty, have your day in court.
(I've been on a course, christ knows what it takes to get threatened with exclusion. We had a couple of right tedious bellends on ours and exclusion was never even mentioned)
Just remember - while you tell your hugely original gag about topping up police pay, everyone else in the room is rolling their eyes and calling you a d
head under their breath.More seriously - been caught? Taking the SAC? Accept you got caught and that maybe, just maybe, you might learn something if you go in with an open mind. Even if it's only how worryingly dense the rest of the class is.
shtu said:
More seriously - been caught? Taking the SAC? Accept you got caught and that maybe, just maybe, you might learn something if you go in with an open mind. Even if it's only how worryingly dense the rest of the class is.
I think it's perfectly possible to go in with an open mind to see what's to learn whilst also not just accepting things that are clearly made up that seems to be the norm of the courses I've been on.shtu said:
What I love about these threads is the daring edgelord stick it to da man types, who,
-Broke the law.
-Were dumb enough to get caught.
-Choose to take the "get out of jail free" card of an SAC.
-Waste everyone's time with their crap Citizen Smith impersonation.
-Trot out the usual assortment of bullst tropes about funding the christmas party, etc.
-Get the threat of exclusion from the SAC, then the tail goes between the legs and they complete the course like a good little boy. Except now they also look like a) an utter bellend and b) a coward.
Nobody forced it on you, why go along just to complain about how wrong it all is? Oh yeah, to try and avoid the points you earned. You don't accept it? Fine, plead not guilty, have your day in court.
(I've been on a course, christ knows what it takes to get threatened with exclusion. We had a couple of right tedious bellends on ours and exclusion was never even mentioned)
Just remember - while you tell your hugely original gag about topping up police pay, everyone else in the room is rolling their eyes and calling you a dhead under their breath.
More seriously - been caught? Taking the SAC? Accept you got caught and that maybe, just maybe, you might learn something if you go in with an open mind. Even if it's only how worryingly dense the rest of the class is.
Well said.-Broke the law.
-Were dumb enough to get caught.
-Choose to take the "get out of jail free" card of an SAC.
-Waste everyone's time with their crap Citizen Smith impersonation.
-Trot out the usual assortment of bulls
t tropes about funding the christmas party, etc.-Get the threat of exclusion from the SAC, then the tail goes between the legs and they complete the course like a good little boy. Except now they also look like a) an utter bellend and b) a coward.
Nobody forced it on you, why go along just to complain about how wrong it all is? Oh yeah, to try and avoid the points you earned. You don't accept it? Fine, plead not guilty, have your day in court.
(I've been on a course, christ knows what it takes to get threatened with exclusion. We had a couple of right tedious bellends on ours and exclusion was never even mentioned)
Just remember - while you tell your hugely original gag about topping up police pay, everyone else in the room is rolling their eyes and calling you a d
head under their breath.More seriously - been caught? Taking the SAC? Accept you got caught and that maybe, just maybe, you might learn something if you go in with an open mind. Even if it's only how worryingly dense the rest of the class is.
vonhosen said:
But again, speed limits are not just about safety/death prevention, despite people constantly talking about them as if they are.
For some reason that is always a massive blind spot on Pistonheads. Just from a personal perspective it’s a pain when people exceed the 30 limit approaching the end of my road, as a bend makes the sightline poor and I then have to accelerate harder than normal when turning out. A bit further on, those exceeding the 20 limit make it harder to cross the village high street. The village is by-passed by an NSL road so sticking to the posted limits shouldn’t really be a hardship to anyone who chooses to drive through it.No massive safety concerns about exceeding the limits by 5mph or so, but those that do it are just making things a little less pleasant for all the locals.
kharma45 said:
shtu said:
What I love about these threads is the daring edgelord stick it to da man types, who,
-Broke the law.
-Were dumb enough to get caught.
-Choose to take the "get out of jail free" card of an SAC.
-Waste everyone's time with their crap Citizen Smith impersonation.
-Trot out the usual assortment of bullst tropes about funding the christmas party, etc.
-Get the threat of exclusion from the SAC, then the tail goes between the legs and they complete the course like a good little boy. Except now they also look like a) an utter bellend and b) a coward.
Nobody forced it on you, why go along just to complain about how wrong it all is? Oh yeah, to try and avoid the points you earned. You don't accept it? Fine, plead not guilty, have your day in court.
(I've been on a course, christ knows what it takes to get threatened with exclusion. We had a couple of right tedious bellends on ours and exclusion was never even mentioned)
Just remember - while you tell your hugely original gag about topping up police pay, everyone else in the room is rolling their eyes and calling you a dhead under their breath.
More seriously - been caught? Taking the SAC? Accept you got caught and that maybe, just maybe, you might learn something if you go in with an open mind. Even if it's only how worryingly dense the rest of the class is.
Well said.-Broke the law.
-Were dumb enough to get caught.
-Choose to take the "get out of jail free" card of an SAC.
-Waste everyone's time with their crap Citizen Smith impersonation.
-Trot out the usual assortment of bulls
t tropes about funding the christmas party, etc.-Get the threat of exclusion from the SAC, then the tail goes between the legs and they complete the course like a good little boy. Except now they also look like a) an utter bellend and b) a coward.
Nobody forced it on you, why go along just to complain about how wrong it all is? Oh yeah, to try and avoid the points you earned. You don't accept it? Fine, plead not guilty, have your day in court.
(I've been on a course, christ knows what it takes to get threatened with exclusion. We had a couple of right tedious bellends on ours and exclusion was never even mentioned)
Just remember - while you tell your hugely original gag about topping up police pay, everyone else in the room is rolling their eyes and calling you a d
head under their breath.More seriously - been caught? Taking the SAC? Accept you got caught and that maybe, just maybe, you might learn something if you go in with an open mind. Even if it's only how worryingly dense the rest of the class is.
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