Was my driving technically correct?

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

Hammersia said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Fecking hell, THERE IS NO SUCH CONVENTION on a normal road. It is not obvious. No matter how many times you say it or how much you would like your driving not to be st, it is not true.

PLEASE stop thinking this before you have a nasty accident. You WILL be in the wrong.

Stop digging and step away from the keyboard.



but before you do....




Please explain how you managed to "travel uphill" on a road that is not a hill?

Collins Dictionary:

"A slope is the side of a mountain, hill, or valley. Saint-Christo is perched on a mountain slope. 2. countable noun. A slope is a surface that is at an angle, so that one end is higher than the other."

In other words you can be travelling uphill but be in a valley, for example, ie not on a hill.

(Any issues with that please take it up with Collins.)

Wow, still digging.

And where in the highway code does it say you have priority when travelling up a surface that is at an angle. Page and rule number please.

[Hammersia]

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Hammersia said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Fecking hell, THERE IS NO SUCH CONVENTION on a normal road. It is not obvious. No matter how many times you say it or how much you would like your driving not to be st, it is not true.

PLEASE stop thinking this before you have a nasty accident. You WILL be in the wrong.

Stop digging and step away from the keyboard.



but before you do....




Please explain how you managed to "travel uphill" on a road that is not a hill?

Collins Dictionary:

"A slope is the side of a mountain, hill, or valley. Saint-Christo is perched on a mountain slope. 2. countable noun. A slope is a surface that is at an angle, so that one end is higher than the other."

In other words you can be travelling uphill but be in a valley, for example, ie not on a hill.

(Any issues with that please take it up with Collins.)

Wow, still digging.

And where in the highway code does it say you have priority when travelling up a surface that is at an angle. Page and rule number please.

You would go up a notch in my estimation if you firstly accept you were wrong about the definition of uphill

[119]

Hammersia said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Hammersia said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Fecking hell, THERE IS NO SUCH CONVENTION on a normal road. It is not obvious. No matter how many times you say it or how much you would like your driving not to be st, it is not true.

PLEASE stop thinking this before you have a nasty accident. You WILL be in the wrong.

Stop digging and step away from the keyboard.



but before you do....




Please explain how you managed to "travel uphill" on a road that is not a hill?

Collins Dictionary:

"A slope is the side of a mountain, hill, or valley. Saint-Christo is perched on a mountain slope. 2. countable noun. A slope is a surface that is at an angle, so that one end is higher than the other."

In other words you can be travelling uphill but be in a valley, for example, ie not on a hill.

(Any issues with that please take it up with Collins.)

Wow, still digging.

And where in the highway code does it say you have priority when travelling up a surface that is at an angle. Page and rule number please.

You would go up a notch in my estimation if you firstly accept you were wrong about the definition of uphill

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

Hammersia said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Hammersia said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Fecking hell, THERE IS NO SUCH CONVENTION on a normal road. It is not obvious. No matter how many times you say it or how much you would like your driving not to be st, it is not true.

PLEASE stop thinking this before you have a nasty accident. You WILL be in the wrong.

Stop digging and step away from the keyboard.



but before you do....




Please explain how you managed to "travel uphill" on a road that is not a hill?

Collins Dictionary:

"A slope is the side of a mountain, hill, or valley. Saint-Christo is perched on a mountain slope. 2. countable noun. A slope is a surface that is at an angle, so that one end is higher than the other."

In other words you can be travelling uphill but be in a valley, for example, ie not on a hill.

(Any issues with that please take it up with Collins.)

Wow, still digging.

And where in the highway code does it say you have priority when travelling up a surface that is at an angle. Page and rule number please.

You would go up a notch in my estimation if you firstly accept you were wrong about the definition of uphill

WTAF???

Tell you what..... I will do that when you admit you don't know the rules of the road and you were in the wrong in the incident you described in your opening post.

It's OK, I'll wait, this thread is fun.

Any news on that page and rule number in the highway code yet? Excited to see these new rules that only you know about.

Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Monday 18th March 21:37

[Super Sonic]

Hammersia said:

You would go up a notch in my estimation if you firstly accept you were wrong about the definition of uphill

Desperate man grasping at straws.

[Ezra]

This already wins Thread of the Week, right?

[QuickQuack]

OutInTheShed said:

Dingu said:

Hammersia said:

I've always seen this as a convention, like if two aircraft are coming head on the convention is to both turn right.

So in the case of a gentle road incline it just helps if everyone follows the convention of priority to the vehicle going uphill, as others have said ITT. Obvious really.

It’s not more of a convention than giving priority when the obstruction is your side. Imagine if everyone followed that convention!

Dunno about aircraft, but with ships, it's not 'convention' it's Law.

Not much about hills in colregs though!

Well that's bks. There's no such convention. For a start, aircraft can move in more than one dimension... Second, most passenger aircraft are equipped with TCAS to resolve this scenario because no international convention exists, hence the convention is to do whatever instruction the TCAS gives you which is usually up or down because planes can do that much more easily and quickly, not left or right. In other cases, ATC will usually intervene. There's no specific convention on what your avoidance action has to be when at risk of a mid-air collision with another aircraft other than those. "Turning right" in an aircraft isn't as simple as turning the steering wheel in your car.

For avoidance of doubt, if this incident genuinely happened, you were completely wrong with your action. However, I suspect that it didn't and you're just trolling for kicks, so my interest ends here.

[Enut]

OP you don't need to know the basic rules of the road to know that driving onto the other side of the road and into the path of a car coming directly towards you and doing over the speed limit (approximately '38 mph', let's say) isn't good driving.

You seem to be quite pedantic, so might be interested that with a combined speed of 63 mph (38 + 25) it takes 7 seconds to cover the 200 metres that the other car was away from you when you started your manoeuvre and that's not allowing for any thinking time. Not really surprising that the other driver and his passenger got a bit upset with you, is it?

Next time you are in a similar situation please just wait patiently for the other car to pass you and then, assuming it is now clear, you can then drive onto the other side of the road to pass the parked cars. You may even get a friendly wave from the other car's driver for not driving like a tw@t.

[WelshRich]

Someone has already worked out that the gradient in the direction of travel was about 1 in 200

Highways agency guidelines are that the camber/fall of a road surface should be about 1 in 40 to ensure sufficient drainage

Technically therefore, you were actually traversing a hill rather than driving up it


P.S. It’s really not a hill - 1 in 200 would be accepted as within tolerance for “Flat” for a premier league football pitch or a professional tennis court…

[5pen]

I’ve driven and cycled that stretch of road hundreds of times. In a car you don’t even notice it’s anything other than flat and even when cycling, it barely registers. It’s irrelevant in this situation anyway, so the answer is no, the driving wasn’t technically correct even if the other car may have been travelling a little too quickly.

It’s worth noting that this road is only ever busy at school drop-off and pick-up times as there is a primary school on the same side as the parked cars. At other times, you’d be unlucky to have to wait more than a few seconds for an opportunity to pass the parked cars safely.

[Jambo2000]

Hammersia said:

I was going uphill, 30 limit, cars parked along left hand side. Only room on the road for one car in either direction, middle of village.

200 yards away coming in the opposite direction comes BMW X6 travelling at 38mph.

I am approaching just before the line of parked cars and it is clear that the BMW expects to plow ahead and I should wait for him.

I knew there were occasional gaps between the parked cars, so I keep going at 25mph aiming at the next gap to pull over and allow BMW through.

In the process sadly the BMW had to slow down quite a bit to allow me to carry on to the gap.

Cue wild gesticulating from him and his wife, they seemed angry.

Surely I had right of way? Was I being unreasonable about making a point about right of way?

Not your priority from your description. Pulling those speeds out of your arse is random. Are you AI?

[GasEngineer]

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Any news on that page and rule number in the highway code yet? Excited to see these new rules that only you know about.

HC was quoted way back on the first page of the thread.

[Gary C]

Hammersia said:

I don't think they were parked in my lane exactly

It's a village so it's just cars parked against the curb, no road markings

Edited by Hammersia on Sunday 17th March 17:17

No road markings !

Apart from the road markings in the middle ?

[blueg33]

This thread definitely hasn’t gone the way the Op hoped!

Hopefully he will rethink his driving strategy and brush up on the rules.

Op. Everything you need to know for the circumstance in question in in Highway Code Rule 163

Edited by blueg33 on Tuesday 19th March 07:19

[cuprabob]

I can just imagine the OP continually repeating the Dustin Hoffman line from Rainman "I'm an excellent driver"

[mcpoot]

Let us not forget the OP's Ryanair First Class seats thread and this question:

"Am I on a special list of some kind? I suppose I'm an elegant fairly posh and presentable sort of bloke, is it like when I'm shown to the front of restaurants to give more window appeal to prospective customers?"

I think perhaps the oncoming mid tier local council manager types failed to recognise the OP's superior status and were definitely at fault for not giving way to him.

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

GasEngineer said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Any news on that page and rule number in the highway code yet? Excited to see these new rules that only you know about.

HC was quoted way back on the first page of the thread.

He did not quote any rule applicable in this scenario. Nor one that mentioned an inclined surface.

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

mcpoot said:

Let us not forget the OP's Ryanair First Class seats thread and this question:

"Am I on a special list of some kind? I suppose I'm an elegant fairly posh and presentable sort of bloke, is it like when I'm shown to the front of restaurants to give more window appeal to prospective customers?"

I think perhaps the oncoming mid tier local council manager types failed to recognise the OP's superior status and were definitely at fault for not giving way to him.

Oh, he is definately on a special list.

[lancslad58]

Collins dictionary

Definition of 'uphill'

ADJECTIVE [ADJECTIVE noun]
If you refer to something as an uphill struggle or an uphill battle, you mean that it requires a great deal of effort and determination, but it should be possible to achieve it.


example It had been an uphill struggle to achieve what he had wanted.
It's an uphill battle but I think we're going to win

[KAgantua]

lol