Man sues over women only art exhibit

Man sues over women only art exhibit

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FMOB

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892 posts

13 months

Thursday 21st March
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CountyAFC

599 posts

4 months

Thursday 21st March
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Don't think he's missed out on much.

Dingu

3,796 posts

31 months

Thursday 21st March
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Some people have too much spare time.

Simpo Two

85,529 posts

266 months

Thursday 21st March
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Let's have a museum exhibit that only men can see, and see how long it takes for the st to hit the fan. Not long I'm sure.

QJumper

2,709 posts

27 months

Thursday 21st March
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It's such a petty thing for people to get worked up over.

I can understand the dissatifaction felt by the visitor who was denied entry, but unfortunately it will be picked up on by others who just like to moan about such things.

I would take a big bet that if it was a trans woman who was denied entry, for not being a "real woman", then those same people would be vociferously defending women's right to have their safe and exclusive space.

akirk

5,394 posts

115 months

Thursday 21st March
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interesting... especially the response from the museum that he was not restricted but experienced that artwork as intended - the artwork being designed to be experienced by women and men differently in inclusion / exclusion - to reference the previous discrimination against women...

if nothing else - the museum should win on creative answers!

vikingaero

10,379 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st March
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From reading other articles, Mr Lau has challenged it from a principled, but fun POV.

You can bet that if this were a "Men Only" exhibit, there would be 100,000 Karens frothing at the mouth.

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Thursday 21st March
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akirk said:
interesting... especially the response from the museum that he was not restricted but experienced that artwork as intended - the artwork being designed to be experienced by women and men differently in inclusion / exclusion - to reference the previous discrimination against women...

if nothing else - the museum should win on creative answers!
yep - thats an interesting argument. He did experience the artwork as intended. (denied something that was desired) What if it said no whites or no blacks as a condition for entry to that exhibit? What if it were 2 exhibits or 10 or the whole thing? is there a number on discrimination -v- art as it were intended?

is "art" excluded from the discriminatory laws? does "art" have to be in a museum or art gallery? could it be in the local pub?

Is a good legal question ( ex solicitor)

NFT

1,324 posts

23 months

Thursday 21st March
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On reading article I'm confused.. Did he want to be seated and attended by male butlers "who live to serve"...




BertBert

19,070 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st March
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akirk said:
if nothing else - the museum should win on creative answers!
Definitely this!

Vanden Saab

14,127 posts

75 months

Thursday 21st March
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BertBert said:
akirk said:
if nothing else - the museum should win on creative answers!
Definitely this!
An artist being creative now there is a thing...

Dave Finney

404 posts

147 months

Thursday 21st March
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It would not surprise me if Lau brought the case on the request of Kaechele! wink

Terminator X

15,105 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd March
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Simpo Two said:
Let's have a museum exhibit that only men can see, and see how long it takes for the st to hit the fan. Not long I'm sure.
Ah but it doesn't work that way, you / me / we hold all the power so can't be discriminated against ...

TX.

Bodo

12,375 posts

267 months

Friday 22nd March
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BBC said:
Artist Kirsha Kaechele calls it an "essential space for perspective and reset from this strange and disjointed world of male domination".

And it's one which could now be taken away by a man.
Aren't the decisions made by courts, not the plaintiffs?

Kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Saturday 30th March
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Article says there were other pieces, like a Picasso, inside the blocked off part, so very arguable he didn't get to experience THOSE pieces as the women did.

Southerner

1,416 posts

53 months

Sunday 31st March
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“Artist” does “art” by winding people up rather than actually being an artist; standard.

Don’t recall being in a pub with women “living to serve” the male drinkers, unless gobby, well worn landladies count! No idea what the culture is in Aus but the bloke has a point, and there is a valid argument that if we’re going to make a heavy turn towards equality there is a need to keep checks & balances on the discrimination that runs in the opposite direction as that’s equally wrong, like it or not. In this case though I suspect either the whole thing is a setup, or he’s p*ssing into the wind and will just be made to look silly.

Decky_Q

1,514 posts

178 months

Sunday 31st March
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Dave Finney said:
It would not surprise me if Lau brought the case on the request of Kaechele! wink
I'd be fairly sure that they are in league, good way to get free advertisement for your exhibition, and highlight the whole point of it. Convenient.

Blakewater

4,310 posts

158 months

Monday 1st April
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QJumper said:
It's such a petty thing for people to get worked up over.

I can understand the dissatifaction felt by the visitor who was denied entry, but unfortunately it will be picked up on by others who just like to moan about such things.

I would take a big bet that if it was a trans woman who was denied entry, for not being a "real woman", then those same people would be vociferously defending women's right to have their safe and exclusive space.
Who's policing entry to the exhibit? How are they doing it without assuming people's gender? It's impossible to do something like this without addressing the issue of gender identity. There are non-binary people and people who say they feel like men on some days and women on others. Someone doesn't have to present as a woman to identify as a woman and we shouldn't assume someone is a woman based on things like clothes and hair. If Mr Lau and his lawyers want to present a difficult challenge, opening this can of worms would be better than making a two dimensional argument about sex discrimination.

Retroman

969 posts

134 months

Wednesday 3rd April
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I'd probably just go in anyway, regardless and if questioned ask people if they had just assumed my gender with a shocked face.

FMOB

Original Poster:

892 posts

13 months

Tuesday 9th April
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Well the court has ruled and said men must be able to enter.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-6877018...