Have a tailgater what for
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Mr Miata said:
Sticks. said:
Just don't slow down to 30 to let them past. Tailgating is aggressive and dangerous so I'm surprised so many on this thread (not you) don't seem bothered by it.
I think there's a rule about tractors being required to pull over if the queue is more than 10 cars.
Tailgating can be avoided by both parties. The car in front could simply put their left indicator on to signal he’s going to coast to let the other car overtake. Easily solved in seconds. I think there's a rule about tractors being required to pull over if the queue is more than 10 cars.
I wonder how many “victims” of tail gating see themselves as the cause of the problem? It amazes me how many people think their car will magically explode if they do more than 40mph on a NSL road. Cross reference this thread… https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
People are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
Sticks. said:
OP slowed down to let him by, which was wrong apparently, and tailgater was soon to turn off in this case.
People are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
Are they allowed to go as slowly as they like? You fail a driving test for not keeping up with the trafficPeople are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
While there are no specific rules in the Highway Code for driving below the speed limit, you can be arrested for "dangerous" or "careless and inconsiderate" driving.
blueg33 said:
Are they allowed to go as slowly as they like? You fail a driving test for not keeping up with the traffic
While there are no specific rules in the Highway Code for driving below the speed limit, you can be arrested for "dangerous" or "careless and inconsiderate" driving.
True, hence 'by and large'. Dangerous, careless, inconsiderate describes tailgating moreso imho.While there are no specific rules in the Highway Code for driving below the speed limit, you can be arrested for "dangerous" or "careless and inconsiderate" driving.
Sticks. said:
blueg33 said:
Are they allowed to go as slowly as they like? You fail a driving test for not keeping up with the traffic
While there are no specific rules in the Highway Code for driving below the speed limit, you can be arrested for "dangerous" or "careless and inconsiderate" driving.
True, hence 'by and large'. Dangerous, careless, inconsiderate describes tailgating moreso imho.While there are no specific rules in the Highway Code for driving below the speed limit, you can be arrested for "dangerous" or "careless and inconsiderate" driving.
Sticks. said:
OP slowed down to let him by, which was wrong apparently, and tailgater was soon to turn off in this case.
The OP didn't know he was going to turn off. Both drivers acted wrongly. If someone wants to overtake it's up to them to do it; the best response is to do nothing and carry on.Sticks. said:
People are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
Reaction happens after cause...LunarOne said:
If you think you were doing 60 then you were probably doing 56mph in which case you would have been severely annoying all kinds of traffic including cars and LGVs. But now is the time you are going to tell us that you were doing 60mph according to your GPS. But anyone who thinks lane 1 is called the "slow lane" is unlikely to have compared their speedometer with a GPS device.
No sympathy whatsoever.
Er, they can overtake surely? I encounter elephant racing on our fine motorways all the time. No sympathy whatsoever.
OP has made up a tall tale and it just doesn't make any sense.
Mr Miata said:
You can solve tailgaters by… letting them go past, for example stopping in a layby. Then you wouldn’t see him ever again.
It amazes me how many people’s ego stops them from doing this, like Gandalf shouting “you shall not pass”.
My (least) favourite was a tractor doing less than 30 mph along the A17 with miles of traffic held up behind him, literally. He knows he’s going slow, when he’s caused the route guidance on Google Maps to change colour, the algorithm thinking there’s a traffic jam. I started playing a game of count how many laybys we’ve gone past that he could have used. Or a game of “I wonder if he see the long line of traffic in his wing mirror and gets the hint?”
I was on the very quiet 4 lane section at Peterborough It amazes me how many people’s ego stops them from doing this, like Gandalf shouting “you shall not pass”.
My (least) favourite was a tractor doing less than 30 mph along the A17 with miles of traffic held up behind him, literally. He knows he’s going slow, when he’s caused the route guidance on Google Maps to change colour, the algorithm thinking there’s a traffic jam. I started playing a game of count how many laybys we’ve gone past that he could have used. Or a game of “I wonder if he see the long line of traffic in his wing mirror and gets the hint?”
Edited by Mr Miata on Thursday 4th April 09:41
Sticks. said:
OP slowed down to let him by, which was wrong apparently, and tailgater was soon to turn off in this case.
People are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
If I go slower he could have overtaken me quicker. People are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
Second time this has happened btw. The other time it was on the m11 near Cambridge and I did the same thing. Perhaps it was the same nitwit
milesgiles said:
If I go slower he could have overtaken me quicker.
Second time this has happened btw. The other time it was on the m11 near Cambridge and I did the same thing. Perhaps it was the same nitwit
Lacking a bit of introspection there, I imagine.Second time this has happened btw. The other time it was on the m11 near Cambridge and I did the same thing. Perhaps it was the same nitwit
What is it:
Insanity = doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
milesgiles said:
I was on the very quiet 4 lane section at Peterborough
Four lanes and the tailgater didn't overtake? In that case he didn't want to; perhaps you'd upset him somehow - eg 'pootling happily in the slow lane at 60' - when he wanted to get to his exit more quickly, and he was taking his vengeance. That's how childish it gets.milesgiles said:
Sticks. said:
OP slowed down to let him by, which was wrong apparently, and tailgater was soon to turn off in this case.
People are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
If I go slower he could have overtaken me quicker. People are, by and large, allowed to go as slowly as they like. Frustrating, but get used to it. It's never an excuse for tailgating or any other form of aggressive driving. The cause of the problem is not what someone is doing but the reaction to it.
milesgiles said:
Second time this has happened btw. The other time it was on the m11 near Cambridge and I did the same thing. Perhaps it was the same nitwit
Definitely the same nit wit! The one in front.All the driver was doing was taking his lane for the exit in plenty of time & you go & do this!
Pure stupidity!
Agree.
The decision to overtake or not is on the following driver. Not the one in front assuming the follower should overtake. In the OP case the “tailgater” left at an upcoming exit so decided he wouldn’t overtake and have to pull back in close to the exit ( cutting up the car in front). His error was getting too close to the car in front instead of slowing earlier to maintain a gap.
Don’t become a “road captain” trying to influence others. If on a motorway maintain your steady speed.
Exceptions? Hmmmmm maybe to give an emergency vehicle on blues/twos pass easier IF (big IF) road conditions and traffic make this safe. Not a necessity though. Often not a good option.
The decision to overtake or not is on the following driver. Not the one in front assuming the follower should overtake. In the OP case the “tailgater” left at an upcoming exit so decided he wouldn’t overtake and have to pull back in close to the exit ( cutting up the car in front). His error was getting too close to the car in front instead of slowing earlier to maintain a gap.
Don’t become a “road captain” trying to influence others. If on a motorway maintain your steady speed.
Exceptions? Hmmmmm maybe to give an emergency vehicle on blues/twos pass easier IF (big IF) road conditions and traffic make this safe. Not a necessity though. Often not a good option.
GasEngineer said:
I've read in several places that the advice for dealing with tailgaters is to slow down to let them pass.
Why is the OP getting so much stick for following the advice?
Why is the OP getting so much stick for following the advice?
Firstly slowing from 60 to 30 is excessive.
We only have thr OP'S word this guy was tailgating him and if you read through this thread he is not the best judge of what actually happens on the roads.
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