Help with my Late Fathers Static Caravan
Discussion
K4sper said:
Who actually owns this caravan? Presumably someone must have / must be about to inherit it? Maybe it is OP if dad died intestate? It belongs to someone and it is currently sitting on some third party's land, so I'm not sure that OP, whether as executor or new owner, can just throw their hands up and walk away...
Caravan is officially in my dad's name. I have no idea if he originally purchased it off the site owner or not. I'm assuming so as from what I can remember it was already in situ when they got the keys but there are no contracts or paperwork in his stack of stuff so it's all assuming. I am son and executer of his will and everything is left to me. Estate in 8k of debt when he died which I have sorted with the bank/ the banks debt collectors.
I'm now just stuck with this bloody caravan. I can't afford to do anything with it, neither can his partner. I've inherited the problem but don't have the funds to pay the rent or removal fees as obviously there was no money coming to me when he died. All I've inherited is his citizen watch and about 30 tons of tools / screwdrivers etc.
Relocating a static starts at £500 and goes up depending on distance etc.
OP how old is it? What make and model? There are guide prices for statics, have a search for 'we buy any caravan' and plenty will come up, will give you an idea of value.
I tried to sell an old one on ebay a while back, thought it might go to a house builder or similar, had no end of time wasters, it was up for £1000, transportation put off most of them. Ended up being scrapped.
OP how old is it? What make and model? There are guide prices for statics, have a search for 'we buy any caravan' and plenty will come up, will give you an idea of value.
I tried to sell an old one on ebay a while back, thought it might go to a house builder or similar, had no end of time wasters, it was up for £1000, transportation put off most of them. Ended up being scrapped.
I think you should confirm(to yourself not us) if there is any value in the caravan and then maybe contact the bank/debt people.
As an executor you could end up in trouble if you just give the farmer the caravan that has a value when other creditors might have priority.
Hope it works out for you all
As an executor you could end up in trouble if you just give the farmer the caravan that has a value when other creditors might have priority.
Hope it works out for you all
I'll have a look what it is when I go down there but I know by the time relocation fees are taken into account, the caravan is not worth any money. The debt collectors referred by dad's debt back to the bank back at start of Feb and I've heard nothing since.
Can't see the bank being interested in a static caravan, where by when everything I'd said and done, is worthless.
Can't see the bank being interested in a static caravan, where by when everything I'd said and done, is worthless.
Might not be worth the hassle but would the van be worth anything without it being moved? It seems there is a process for moving the title onto someone else, in which case may someone local be interested in picking the contract up for say £1500 (of which 500 goes to the farmer), and you end up with a grand?
kiethton said:
Sorry to hear of your loss.
If not married, the caravan has no intrinsic value, wanted contents and he had no assets I'd be tempted by replying along the lines of "I am afraid that the owner has passed and the estate has no assets from which to settle any demand. Please dispose of the caravan as you see fit"
I think that is more or less, it.If not married, the caravan has no intrinsic value, wanted contents and he had no assets I'd be tempted by replying along the lines of "I am afraid that the owner has passed and the estate has no assets from which to settle any demand. Please dispose of the caravan as you see fit"
Your father's debts are not your debts.
Do you want the caravan? How much is it worth to you?
Alickadoo said:
I think that is more or less, it.
Your father's debts are not your debts.
Do you want the caravan? How much is it worth to you?
Simply put, no we don't want it and its worthless to us!Your father's debts are not your debts.
Do you want the caravan? How much is it worth to you?
Just want rid of it and the hassle. I'm currently drafting a letter and will post it up
I think I would walk away. Sounds like there is little or no formality by way of contract and now your father has died there is not real link. for him to pursue he would have no grounds with no contract. If you moved it you would have to put it somewhere else so by the time all that is done you would gain nothing from sale either.
James_N said:
Caravan is officially in my dad's name. .............but there are no contracts or paperwork in his stack of stuff so it's all assuming.
What do you mean by 'officially' ??If there is no paperwork and no contracts then could it not be 'officially' in the farmers name?
"Here's your caravan back, thanks for the loan of it, goodbye"
Yellow Lizud said:
What do you mean by 'officially' ??
If there is no paperwork and no contracts then could it not be 'officially' in the farmers name?
"Here's your caravan back, thanks for the loan of it, goodbye"
Well I'm making an assumption that when purchased, my dad paid the asking price the farmer wanted for it. I can only assume it is in his name as all the bills have since been in his name.If there is no paperwork and no contracts then could it not be 'officially' in the farmers name?
"Here's your caravan back, thanks for the loan of it, goodbye"
I have drafted the following letter. Critique welcomed:
Letter said:
Dear Mr (Farmer)
I am in receipt of your bill (copy enclosed) for the change of ownership fees of £500 relating to static caravan number 16, sited on (Park Address)
As you are aware, (fathers name), passed away back in November 2023. At present, the caravan is part of his estate.
Upon his death, (fathers name) estate was in debt, and I enclose relevant documentation from the Solicitors, instructed by the bank, to try and reclaim money from the estate to pay the attached debt, however, after filing in the necessary assets and liabilities form, the solicitors confirmed that there is not sufficient funds in the estate to pay and have closed the case.
This means that unfortunately, there is not sufficient funds in the estate to pay any debt or costs relating to his static caravan moving forward.
I am writing to inform you that due to this, you are free to dispose of the caravan as you see fit as the estate can not pay the change of name fee and there is no money in the estate to pay the upcoming site rental fees for year 24/25.
I have also enclosed a copy of the will, just so you can see that I am dealing with this as executor.
Yours sincerely
James_N
I am in receipt of your bill (copy enclosed) for the change of ownership fees of £500 relating to static caravan number 16, sited on (Park Address)
As you are aware, (fathers name), passed away back in November 2023. At present, the caravan is part of his estate.
Upon his death, (fathers name) estate was in debt, and I enclose relevant documentation from the Solicitors, instructed by the bank, to try and reclaim money from the estate to pay the attached debt, however, after filing in the necessary assets and liabilities form, the solicitors confirmed that there is not sufficient funds in the estate to pay and have closed the case.
This means that unfortunately, there is not sufficient funds in the estate to pay any debt or costs relating to his static caravan moving forward.
I am writing to inform you that due to this, you are free to dispose of the caravan as you see fit as the estate can not pay the change of name fee and there is no money in the estate to pay the upcoming site rental fees for year 24/25.
I have also enclosed a copy of the will, just so you can see that I am dealing with this as executor.
Yours sincerely
James_N
James_N said:
Maybe I should mention that I can't find any contract relating to the caravan also?
Yes I would at the beginning............maybe also ask if he can supply a signed copy for your records and the Executor?I am unable to find any form of contract relating to a static caravan in his paperwork, perhaps you would be so kind as to supply a copy for my records, However I am in receipt of................
eta assume you are a sole Executor?
James_N said:
LimmerickLad said:
eta assume you are a sole Executor?
Yes I am I have just checked with someone else on the site and they too do not have a contract!
How about...
Letter said:
Dear Mr (Farmer)
I am writing to you as executor of the estate of my late Father, Mr. (the deceased). I confirm receipt of your invoice relating to change of ownership for his caravan, number 16. The caravan currently remains part of his estate and no change of ownership has taken place.
In order to settle my late father's affairs, I would be grateful if by return you would send copies of the following in writing;
a) Copies of any contracts between you/your business and my late father relating to the caravan, detailing any relevant obligations, fees and charges
b) Any outstanding monies owed to or by you relating to my late father
c) Any applicable charges or fees if the caravan;
- changes ownership and remains in-situ; or
- were removed from your land altogether
d) Any offer by you to purchase the caravan
I look forward to your response.
Yours sincerely
James_N
I am writing to you as executor of the estate of my late Father, Mr. (the deceased). I confirm receipt of your invoice relating to change of ownership for his caravan, number 16. The caravan currently remains part of his estate and no change of ownership has taken place.
In order to settle my late father's affairs, I would be grateful if by return you would send copies of the following in writing;
a) Copies of any contracts between you/your business and my late father relating to the caravan, detailing any relevant obligations, fees and charges
b) Any outstanding monies owed to or by you relating to my late father
c) Any applicable charges or fees if the caravan;
- changes ownership and remains in-situ; or
- were removed from your land altogether
d) Any offer by you to purchase the caravan
I look forward to your response.
Yours sincerely
James_N
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