Marked out parking on the pavement and road
Discussion
3 questions to ask, to me at least all answers should all be the same answer of full tyre in correct are with only bumper over hang but that doesn’t take into account car size.
- how much of a car can legally be outside of a marketed out parking area on to double yellow lines?
- how much of a car can be legally be still within marked out parking area past a high kerb and on to a dropped kerb drive way access?
- how much can a car can legally be off of a drive way onto a footpath?
Live on a quiet suburb road where most but not all have a drive way. Some have opened up their front drive fully and got a drop kerb installed, other have not had a drop kerb installed. Others still only have a one car opening to the drive and some still only have a predestination gate. Council have marked out a continuous half on pavement/half on road parking area up to the end junctions or other joining road.
Because of this continuous parking area you can park in front of someone else house if they have opened the front of their drive but not got the kerb dropped (as it is illegal to get access to you driveway with out a dropped kerb). I could block myself in in front of my drop kerb area but others can because it’s illegal to block access to someone else’s access.
But and this is the big but, how much parking outside the parking area would either get me a ticket or just generally be enough for a neighbour to be well within their right to complain. Cars have got bigger but drive ways haven’t and now tend to over hang with not much tyre still on their drive. If someone if fine with their car over hanging on to the path then overhanging the not drop kerb in front of an open front drive should be the same?
- how much of a car can legally be outside of a marketed out parking area on to double yellow lines?
- how much of a car can be legally be still within marked out parking area past a high kerb and on to a dropped kerb drive way access?
- how much can a car can legally be off of a drive way onto a footpath?
Live on a quiet suburb road where most but not all have a drive way. Some have opened up their front drive fully and got a drop kerb installed, other have not had a drop kerb installed. Others still only have a one car opening to the drive and some still only have a predestination gate. Council have marked out a continuous half on pavement/half on road parking area up to the end junctions or other joining road.
Because of this continuous parking area you can park in front of someone else house if they have opened the front of their drive but not got the kerb dropped (as it is illegal to get access to you driveway with out a dropped kerb). I could block myself in in front of my drop kerb area but others can because it’s illegal to block access to someone else’s access.
But and this is the big but, how much parking outside the parking area would either get me a ticket or just generally be enough for a neighbour to be well within their right to complain. Cars have got bigger but drive ways haven’t and now tend to over hang with not much tyre still on their drive. If someone if fine with their car over hanging on to the path then overhanging the not drop kerb in front of an open front drive should be the same?
mattvanders said:
3 questions to ask, to me at least all answers should all be the same answer of full tyre in correct are with only bumper over hang but that doesn’t take into account car size.
- how much of a car can legally be outside of a marketed out parking area on to double yellow lines?
- how much of a car can be legally be still within marked out parking area past a high kerb and on to a dropped kerb drive way access?
- how much can a car can legally be off of a drive way onto a footpath?
Live on a quiet suburb road where most but not all have a drive way. Some have opened up their front drive fully and got a drop kerb installed, other have not had a drop kerb installed. Others still only have a one car opening to the drive and some still only have a predestination gate. Council have marked out a continuous half on pavement/half on road parking area up to the end junctions or other joining road.
Because of this continuous parking area you can park in front of someone else house if they have opened the front of their drive but not got the kerb dropped (as it is illegal to get access to you driveway with out a dropped kerb). I could block myself in in front of my drop kerb area but others can because it’s illegal to block access to someone else’s access.
But and this is the big but, how much parking outside the parking area would either get me a ticket or just generally be enough for a neighbour to be well within their right to complain. Cars have got bigger but drive ways haven’t and now tend to over hang with not much tyre still on their drive. If someone if fine with their car over hanging on to the path then overhanging the not drop kerb in front of an open front drive should be the same?
Read it three times but I still don't really know what you're on about. (Predestination gate?)- how much of a car can legally be outside of a marketed out parking area on to double yellow lines?
- how much of a car can be legally be still within marked out parking area past a high kerb and on to a dropped kerb drive way access?
- how much can a car can legally be off of a drive way onto a footpath?
Live on a quiet suburb road where most but not all have a drive way. Some have opened up their front drive fully and got a drop kerb installed, other have not had a drop kerb installed. Others still only have a one car opening to the drive and some still only have a predestination gate. Council have marked out a continuous half on pavement/half on road parking area up to the end junctions or other joining road.
Because of this continuous parking area you can park in front of someone else house if they have opened the front of their drive but not got the kerb dropped (as it is illegal to get access to you driveway with out a dropped kerb). I could block myself in in front of my drop kerb area but others can because it’s illegal to block access to someone else’s access.
But and this is the big but, how much parking outside the parking area would either get me a ticket or just generally be enough for a neighbour to be well within their right to complain. Cars have got bigger but drive ways haven’t and now tend to over hang with not much tyre still on their drive. If someone if fine with their car over hanging on to the path then overhanging the not drop kerb in front of an open front drive should be the same?
But I think the gist of it is that you're looking for justification to park in front of your neighbour's driveway?
Sebring440 said:
mattvanders said:
3 questions to ask, to me at least all answers should all be the same answer of full tyre in correct are with only bumper over hang but that doesn’t take into account car size.
- how much of a car can legally be outside of a marketed out parking area on to double yellow lines?
- how much of a car can be legally be still within marked out parking area past a high kerb and on to a dropped kerb drive way access?
- how much can a car can legally be off of a drive way onto a footpath?
Live on a quiet suburb road where most but not all have a drive way. Some have opened up their front drive fully and got a drop kerb installed, other have not had a drop kerb installed. Others still only have a one car opening to the drive and some still only have a predestination gate. Council have marked out a continuous half on pavement/half on road parking area up to the end junctions or other joining road.
Because of this continuous parking area you can park in front of someone else house if they have opened the front of their drive but not got the kerb dropped (as it is illegal to get access to you driveway with out a dropped kerb). I could block myself in in front of my drop kerb area but others can because it’s illegal to block access to someone else’s access.
But and this is the big but, how much parking outside the parking area would either get me a ticket or just generally be enough for a neighbour to be well within their right to complain. Cars have got bigger but drive ways haven’t and now tend to over hang with not much tyre still on their drive. If someone if fine with their car over hanging on to the path then overhanging the not drop kerb in front of an open front drive should be the same?
Read it three times but I still don't really know what you're on about. (Predestination gate?)- how much of a car can legally be outside of a marketed out parking area on to double yellow lines?
- how much of a car can be legally be still within marked out parking area past a high kerb and on to a dropped kerb drive way access?
- how much can a car can legally be off of a drive way onto a footpath?
Live on a quiet suburb road where most but not all have a drive way. Some have opened up their front drive fully and got a drop kerb installed, other have not had a drop kerb installed. Others still only have a one car opening to the drive and some still only have a predestination gate. Council have marked out a continuous half on pavement/half on road parking area up to the end junctions or other joining road.
Because of this continuous parking area you can park in front of someone else house if they have opened the front of their drive but not got the kerb dropped (as it is illegal to get access to you driveway with out a dropped kerb). I could block myself in in front of my drop kerb area but others can because it’s illegal to block access to someone else’s access.
But and this is the big but, how much parking outside the parking area would either get me a ticket or just generally be enough for a neighbour to be well within their right to complain. Cars have got bigger but drive ways haven’t and now tend to over hang with not much tyre still on their drive. If someone if fine with their car over hanging on to the path then overhanging the not drop kerb in front of an open front drive should be the same?
But I think the gist of it is that you're looking for justification to park in front of your neighbour's driveway?
Pedestrian gate I meant - access into the front garden rather than a front drive way
andburg said:
I think the short answer is you are perfectly ok with no overhang
any overhang over the marked box or the edge of a drive could fall foul of a warden. It also depends whether its signed up as parking only in marked bays or whether they're just there for guidance.
There aren’t any signs on posts or on the road for the marked parking area - there isn’t parking bays of the fixed size type, just marked out areas. See picture below for what I mean, thanksany overhang over the marked box or the edge of a drive could fall foul of a warden. It also depends whether its signed up as parking only in marked bays or whether they're just there for guidance.
GreatGranny said:
Good luck with annoying your neighbours if you block someone in if they haven't got a dropped kerb.
I know the 'law' is with you but can you be bothered with the hassle?
You would only do that if you wanted to provoke a response from the neighbour, which is clearly what the OP has in mind.I know the 'law' is with you but can you be bothered with the hassle?
Edited by Sebring440 on Thursday 4th April 21:51
I know the law and do have one (the next door neighbour) that is more than happy to park on the raised kerb in front of my open drive - no one else in the street does this to anyone else other than next door (in fact I’ve offered to others to park there or on my drive to help them out when they can’t use their drive or workmen coming over etc).
I have had on occasion my high kerb side of the drive was blocked by someone I didn’t know, wouldn’t normally be an issue but I had workman and skips to deal with. Left a polite note only for it to be pushed back through the postbox with angry note of “not a drop kerb, I can park where I like”. Day after spotted the car again but in one of the friendly neighbours driveway so went to have a chat with her as she was heading out, completely unaware to the note but apologies anyway as she was in between selling cars, again I offered drive way if she needed to space at a later date when free.
Curtain stances have change with a remove of a dead tree that block part of their drive to road that now would make there life easier for them but it’s still a high kerb and with parking area markings across the same area that the tree covered so is now a valid packing space that can actually be used. I’ve got working men starting in a bit, with my drive way getting used for skips, their vans will end up being parked in the marked parking area and I know next door will kick off about it. He has called the police on another neighbour because he parked in front of what looked like back garden drive way (dropped kerb, but the gate it permanently fixed shut and can’t be opened). If I know i’m in the right i’m more than happy for him to do similar but this time with the law on my side. In fact there cars over hang on to the path which would make the situation worse for them if pointed out.
I have had on occasion my high kerb side of the drive was blocked by someone I didn’t know, wouldn’t normally be an issue but I had workman and skips to deal with. Left a polite note only for it to be pushed back through the postbox with angry note of “not a drop kerb, I can park where I like”. Day after spotted the car again but in one of the friendly neighbours driveway so went to have a chat with her as she was heading out, completely unaware to the note but apologies anyway as she was in between selling cars, again I offered drive way if she needed to space at a later date when free.
Curtain stances have change with a remove of a dead tree that block part of their drive to road that now would make there life easier for them but it’s still a high kerb and with parking area markings across the same area that the tree covered so is now a valid packing space that can actually be used. I’ve got working men starting in a bit, with my drive way getting used for skips, their vans will end up being parked in the marked parking area and I know next door will kick off about it. He has called the police on another neighbour because he parked in front of what looked like back garden drive way (dropped kerb, but the gate it permanently fixed shut and can’t be opened). If I know i’m in the right i’m more than happy for him to do similar but this time with the law on my side. In fact there cars over hang on to the path which would make the situation worse for them if pointed out.
mattvanders said:
Curtain stances have change with a remove of a dead tree that block part of their drive to road that now would make there life easier for them but it’s still a high kerb and with parking area markings across the same area that the tree covered
I really wish you could explain things more clearly. I still have no idea what you're on about.GasEngineer said:
Not sure what this bit means OP?
Technically i believe you can block other people's drives (even with a dropped kerb) if there is no car there as you are not blocking their access TO the highway only access FROM the highway which I guess would answer OP's other question about what he can and can't block.Still an absolute dick move if you know the homeowner plans to use their drive or front parking area.
GasEngineer said:
mattvanders said:
I could block myself in in front of my drop kerb area but others can because it’s illegal ..
Not sure what this bit means OP?The word 'can' here is, I think, intended to be 'can't'.
In the same way that 'curtain stances' is intended to be 'circumstances'.
mattvanders said:
- how much of a car can legally be outside of a marketed out parking area on to double yellow lines?
None.mattvanders said:
- how much of a car can be legally be still within marked out parking area past a high kerb and on to a dropped kerb drive way access?
None.mattvanders said:
- how much can a car can legally be off of a drive way onto a footpath?
None.SpidersWeb said:
None.
With reference to your parking reply are you sure. A friend of mine who reported his neighbour for parking across the footpath was told by the council they can do nothing as there are no yellow lines on the road. To clarify his neighbour's car was parked as if he was driving onto his own drive but just stopped with his car's arse out in the road and the front nose impinging onto his own driveway.I will try and get the picture but in essence a pedestrian would have to walk into the road to get past his car - perpendicular on the path - WTF !!
Pip
OP I've read your posts a few times and still don't really know what you're asking.
It sounds like a lot of you have turned your front gardens into parking areas. Some have not bothered with installing a dropped kerb, and some have but their front garden parking is much wider than the dropped kerb, and are getting bent out of shape when people park legitimately in front of that part of the parking area not covered by a dropped kerb.
Is that right?
It sounds like a lot of you have turned your front gardens into parking areas. Some have not bothered with installing a dropped kerb, and some have but their front garden parking is much wider than the dropped kerb, and are getting bent out of shape when people park legitimately in front of that part of the parking area not covered by a dropped kerb.
Is that right?
Looking at that street in particular I wouldn't have been happy with how the council marked out parking bays across dropped kerbs. Frankly if people don't have dropped kerbs they don't have any grounds to get the hump, but I hate it when people make a point of it.
We had a neighbour who changed his parking from a single width entrance to a courtyard, to just having three cars lined up to drive straight onto the road, without lengthening his dropped kerb. Some silly woman was visiting another house several times a week and kept making a point of always parking across his undropped kerb and blocking him in when she could have parked in front of my hedge without annoying anyone.
We had a neighbour who changed his parking from a single width entrance to a courtyard, to just having three cars lined up to drive straight onto the road, without lengthening his dropped kerb. Some silly woman was visiting another house several times a week and kept making a point of always parking across his undropped kerb and blocking him in when she could have parked in front of my hedge without annoying anyone.
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