Too Many Cars on The Road... Artificial Intelligence Coming
Discussion
Howitzer said:
What a disgusting idea for society.
Freedom lost, lots of people with dash cams and roadside units playing policeman.
It’s a horrible way to live and will create a joyless existence.
Those who say “well don’t do anything wrong and you will be ok” are incredibly naive to think that once the low hanging fruit is taken, they won’t go after anyone else.
Cycling a bit wobbly, not on my watch, oh we don’t like the food you eat, ban that.
If you think you need nannying or are perfect, you very likely are far from it. Humans make mistakes and that needs addressing but not at the cost of basic human rights and freedoms.
Far more police who have a backbone and more rights at the roadside. Like Judge Dredd but no machine pistols ??
Dave!
Freedom lost, lots of people with dash cams and roadside units playing policeman.
It’s a horrible way to live and will create a joyless existence.
Those who say “well don’t do anything wrong and you will be ok” are incredibly naive to think that once the low hanging fruit is taken, they won’t go after anyone else.
Cycling a bit wobbly, not on my watch, oh we don’t like the food you eat, ban that.
If you think you need nannying or are perfect, you very likely are far from it. Humans make mistakes and that needs addressing but not at the cost of basic human rights and freedoms.
Far more police who have a backbone and more rights at the roadside. Like Judge Dredd but no machine pistols ??
Dave!
OP, has your friend thought about not playing with his phone whilst driving? It's pretty s
tty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.
I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
tty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
donkmeister said:
OP, has your friend thought about not playing with his phone whilst driving? It's pretty stty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.
I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
Apparently it's ok if your phone is in your lap! 'The offence is only made out of the phone is in your hand' or somesuch legal btty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
ks, from someone who claims to be a lawyer.
They have been testing and trialling these systems for ages, and now that they are finally here, I'm totally OK with it.
There needs to be mass-prosecution of those who cannot put their phones down. When these cameras were being tested on the motorway a couple of years ago, they caught something like 15,000 drivers in a few months with just one single camera. Sounds like a decent result to me, just a shame they were only caught during testing and couldn't be prosecuted.
Couldn't care less either way about the seatbelt part of it, but who is daft enough not to wear a seatbelt in a vehicle where they are fitted?
There needs to be mass-prosecution of those who cannot put their phones down. When these cameras were being tested on the motorway a couple of years ago, they caught something like 15,000 drivers in a few months with just one single camera. Sounds like a decent result to me, just a shame they were only caught during testing and couldn't be prosecuted.
Couldn't care less either way about the seatbelt part of it, but who is daft enough not to wear a seatbelt in a vehicle where they are fitted?
Super Sonic said:
donkmeister said:
OP, has your friend thought about not playing with his phone whilst driving? It's pretty stty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.
I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
Apparently it's ok if your phone is in your lap! 'The offence is only made out of the phone is in your hand' or somesuch legal btty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
ks, from someone who claims to be a lawyer.ETA Presumably even if it is legal to carry your phone on your lap, as soon as you start crotch gazing you are DWDCA?
Edited by donkmeister on Thursday 25th April 16:42
donkmeister said:
Super Sonic said:
donkmeister said:
OP, has your friend thought about not playing with his phone whilst driving? It's pretty stty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.
I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
Apparently it's ok if your phone is in your lap! 'The offence is only made out of the phone is in your hand' or somesuch legal btty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
ks, from someone who claims to be a lawyer.ETA Presumably even if it is legal to carry your phone on your lap, as soon as you start crotch gazing you are DWDCA?
Edited by donkmeister on Thursday 25th April 16:42
jm doc said:
donkmeister said:
Super Sonic said:
donkmeister said:
OP, has your friend thought about not playing with his phone whilst driving? It's pretty stty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.
I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
Apparently it's ok if your phone is in your lap! 'The offence is only made out of the phone is in your hand' or somesuch legal btty behaviour, few would justify it even if they do it themselves.I have a phone mount, I use my phone for navigation and music playback but it's a "do it in the seconds after turning car on and before putting it into gear" activity. If I had a more modern car with screen mirroring I wouldn't even have the phone visible. What I certainly don't do is drive along staring at my crotch and scrolling through soshul meeja.
ks, from someone who claims to be a lawyer.ETA Presumably even if it is legal to carry your phone on your lap, as soon as you start crotch gazing you are DWDCA?
Edited by donkmeister on Thursday 25th April 16:42
Howitzer said:
What a disgusting idea for society.
Freedom lost, lots of people with dash cams and roadside units playing policeman.
It’s a horrible way to live and will create a joyless existence.
Those who say “well don’t do anything wrong and you will be ok” are incredibly naive to think that once the low hanging fruit is taken, they won’t go after anyone else.
Cycling a bit wobbly, not on my watch, oh we don’t like the food you eat, ban that.
If you think you need nannying or are perfect, you very likely are far from it. Humans make mistakes and that needs addressing but not at the cost of basic human rights and freedoms.
Far more police who have a backbone and more rights at the roadside. Like Judge Dredd but no machine pistols ??
Dave!
Whilst I do get your point on scope creep, there is no basic human right or freedom being reduced by being caught (and prosecuted) for using a phone at the wheel or not wearing a seatbelt.Freedom lost, lots of people with dash cams and roadside units playing policeman.
It’s a horrible way to live and will create a joyless existence.
Those who say “well don’t do anything wrong and you will be ok” are incredibly naive to think that once the low hanging fruit is taken, they won’t go after anyone else.
Cycling a bit wobbly, not on my watch, oh we don’t like the food you eat, ban that.
If you think you need nannying or are perfect, you very likely are far from it. Humans make mistakes and that needs addressing but not at the cost of basic human rights and freedoms.
Far more police who have a backbone and more rights at the roadside. Like Judge Dredd but no machine pistols ??
Dave!
These aren't new laws, they've been around for years (40+ years for the seatbelt law). So no freedoms are being removed.
Your last sentence contradicts your point entirely. It suggests you do support the rules as they are but seem to have an issue with the method of enforcement.
Edited by oyster on Friday 26th April 10:51
donkmeister said:
Please, please tell me that the "someone who claims to be a lawyer" is that lonely bloke in the pub who comes out with all sorts of rubbish about pretending to have a cough to beat the breathalyser and so on, rather than someone who is actually qualified as a solicitor or barrister.
ETA Presumably even if it is legal to carry your phone on your lap, as soon as you start crotch gazing you are DWDCA?
It's someone who posts regularly on here claiming to be a lawyer. See the 'Cyclist who reported range rover' thread.ETA Presumably even if it is legal to carry your phone on your lap, as soon as you start crotch gazing you are DWDCA?
Edited by donkmeister on Thursday 25th April 16:42
Your second point is absolutely true.
oyster said:
Whilst I do get your point on scope creep, there is no basic human right or freedom being reduced by being caught (and prosecuted) for using a phone at the wheel or not wearing a seatbelt.
These aren't new laws, they've been around for years (40+ years for the seatbelt law). So no freedoms are being removed.
Your last sentence contradicts your point entirely. It suggests you do support the rules as they are but seem to have an issue with the method of enforcement.
Exactly!These aren't new laws, they've been around for years (40+ years for the seatbelt law). So no freedoms are being removed.
Your last sentence contradicts your point entirely. It suggests you do support the rules as they are but seem to have an issue with the method of enforcement.
Edited by oyster on Friday 26th April 10:51
Theres never been a "freedom" to get away with breaking the law. There's just been "getting away with breaking the law".
I like a bit of speed, but whilst it's often safe, it's always illegal.
I can't believe people struggle with this, and reading them trying to defend themselves is pretty sad really.
Camera enforcement should definitely should be widened to tailgating, and incorrect lane discipline on motorways imo, oh and littering.
Any new laws like driverless cars will obviously have to go through our elected representatives, which gives some clue where pressure can be applied.
I'm all for it
I know one day I'm going to be hit on my bike by some idiot who's not paying attention
So if they can take all those people off the road who are on their phones, that's one less thing to worry about
Can we do something about the MLMs next ?
And use anpr to get all the uninsured and non-mot'd cars off the roads
I know one day I'm going to be hit on my bike by some idiot who's not paying attention
So if they can take all those people off the road who are on their phones, that's one less thing to worry about
Can we do something about the MLMs next ?
And use anpr to get all the uninsured and non-mot'd cars off the roads
KTMsm said:
I'm all for it
I know one day I'm going to be hit on my bike by some idiot who's not paying attention
So if they can take all those people off the road who are on their phones, that's one less thing to worry about
Can we do something about the MLMs next ?
And use anpr to get all the uninsured and non-mot'd cars off the roads
They will catch you speeding I know one day I'm going to be hit on my bike by some idiot who's not paying attention
So if they can take all those people off the road who are on their phones, that's one less thing to worry about
Can we do something about the MLMs next ?
And use anpr to get all the uninsured and non-mot'd cars off the roads
Another dangerous driver/rider off the road...
Acusensus said:
Speed enforcement solution
The Harmony solution provides a high-tech speed enforcement solution.
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The Harmony solution provides a high-tech speed enforcement solution.
https://www.acusensus.com/solutions/harmony-2/
KTMsm said:
bigothunter said:
They will catch you speeding
Yes but they've been trying to do that for the last 25+ years It would be nice if they could put similar effort into removing some of the actual risks off the road
Speed kills - Kill your speed...
Acusensus said:
Speed enforcement solution
The Harmony solution provides a high-tech speed enforcement solution.
https://www.acusensus.com/solutions/harmony-2/
The Harmony solution provides a high-tech speed enforcement solution.
https://www.acusensus.com/solutions/harmony-2/
Various PR & marketing people should be first against the wall with blindfold & last fag.
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