DR10 40 years ago - impact on Daughter's Police Application?
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Hopefully one of our serving officers can advise:
I've discovered that my daughter has applied to join the Police (as a PC), but she's unaware of my DR10 conviction from 40 years ago
Not so much as a parking ticket since then (or even before, come to that!).
Is this something which is likely to scupper her plans?
I've discovered that my daughter has applied to join the Police (as a PC), but she's unaware of my DR10 conviction from 40 years ago
Not so much as a parking ticket since then (or even before, come to that!).Is this something which is likely to scupper her plans?
Derek Smith said:
If she prepares a reply to a question on it at the interview, it could make her feel more confident/not worry about it, but I doubt they will ask.
Could they ask a question on it? Asking a specific question would involve revealing someone else's criminal history and unless that individual has consented then surely that would be illegal (and even asking a question that was posed as a theoretical 'what if' question, but which had actually been based on reality would be asking for trouble).
SpidersWeb said:
Could they ask a question on it?
Asking a specific question would involve revealing someone else's criminal history and unless that individual has consented then surely that would be illegal (and even asking a question that was posed as a theoretical 'what if' question, but which had actually been based on reality would be asking for trouble).
Criminal conviction = public record.Asking a specific question would involve revealing someone else's criminal history and unless that individual has consented then surely that would be illegal (and even asking a question that was posed as a theoretical 'what if' question, but which had actually been based on reality would be asking for trouble).
agtlaw said:
SpidersWeb said:
Could they ask a question on it?
Asking a specific question would involve revealing someone else's criminal history and unless that individual has consented then surely that would be illegal (and even asking a question that was posed as a theoretical 'what if' question, but which had actually been based on reality would be asking for trouble).
Criminal conviction = public record.Asking a specific question would involve revealing someone else's criminal history and unless that individual has consented then surely that would be illegal (and even asking a question that was posed as a theoretical 'what if' question, but which had actually been based on reality would be asking for trouble).
agtlaw said:
SpidersWeb said:
Fair enough - so where can someone look up this public record of the details of any individual's driving record and convictions?
Contact the court. agtlaw said:
To quote from that page - "In general, you cannot search for records of criminal court cases by the names of defendants or anyone else involved in the case, though there are some exceptions to this, notably with Crown court records held at The National Archives. Usually you will need to know when and where a trial took place to have any hope of finding records."
A 'public record' which cannot be searched to find the information that would reveal someone had a driving conviction does for all practical purposes mean that there is no public record.
Pica-Pica said:
Public record does not equal public knowledge.
Exactly.Pica-Pica said:
Public record does not equal public knowledge. Where does a requirement to search relatives’ criminal records start, and where does it end?
Correct. Public record does not mean readily available to anyone on some central database accessed via Google. It means public record. agtlaw said:
Public record does not mean readily available to anyone on some central database accessed via Google. It means public record.
But the record isn't available to the public if the database isn't accessible by the public!agtlaw said:
Drink driving is a criminal offence which leads to a criminal conviction and a public record will be available.
It isn’t a “minor road traffic offence.”
As before, how do you find out if an individual has ever had a criminal conviction if it is a 'public record'.It isn’t a “minor road traffic offence.”
SpidersWeb said:
agtlaw said:
Public record does not mean readily available to anyone on some central database accessed via Google. It means public record.
But the record isn't available to the public if the database isn't accessible by the public!agtlaw said:
Drink driving is a criminal offence which leads to a criminal conviction and a public record will be available.
It isn’t a “minor road traffic offence.”
As before, how do you find out if an individual has ever had a criminal conviction if it is a 'public record'.It isn’t a “minor road traffic offence.”
Already answered this.
agtlaw said:
Typical PH idiot to “double down” on the wrong answer. All arising from his nonsense post about asking permission!
That's how it works here isn't it? OP - she'll be fine, it won't cause an issue for her. I hope her application goes well and she knows what she's letting herself in for.
If she has any questions etc then just ask on here, despite all the policing andaw experts that regularly post here there are actually a few bobbies/people that actually know what they're taking about that can try and help.
agtlaw said:
Typical PH idiot to “double down” on the wrong answer. All arising from his nonsense post about asking permission!
Got out of bed the wrong side this morning?agtlaw said:
SpidersWeb said:
agtlaw said:
Public record does not mean readily available to anyone on some central database accessed via Google. It means public record.
But the record isn't available to the public if the database isn't accessible by the public!agtlaw said:
Drink driving is a criminal offence which leads to a criminal conviction and a public record will be available.
It isn’t a “minor road traffic offence.”
As before, how do you find out if an individual has ever had a criminal conviction if it is a 'public record'.It isn’t a “minor road traffic offence.”
Already answered this.
To argue that something that is not available to the public is a 'public record' is rather a stretch.
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