Road Tax shirkers

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salty-nlv

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438 posts

260 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Just a quick query for those in the know, I am getting increasingly annoyed by the amount of cars on my road that clearly have tax discs months and months out of date yet still continue to drive them daily. As this is a residential area no traffic wardens ever come up here.

Am I right in thinking if no valid tax is held then insurance is invalidated? If so what should I do about it? Who do I report this to? as even though I don't like it, I pay mine on time and every year...
Am I just being a miserable sod?

FunkyGibbon

3,786 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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outlaw

1,893 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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hope the pikey busts your nose
for being a grass

sadoksevoli

1,232 posts

258 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Shop the scumbags - as much as i hate bureaucracy and the persecution of drivers why should we all pay taxes and see others get away without doing so. If this scrote takes Outlaw's inane advice let me know - I'll back you up

Outlaw - what's wrong with being a grass in this case - people who avoid road tax mean we all pay more?

hertsbiker

6,313 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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actually you both have a point. Why should ANYONE pay road tax, after all only 10% of it gets spent on the roads...

Just 'cos someone else has the nerve or defiance not to pay it, does not neccessarily make them a bad person.

Would you like it if everyone you speed past was able to grass you up to the cops? thought not. It's just as illegal, and more dangerous.

Think about the other sides for a change.

C

filmidget

682 posts

283 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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To me at least it’s not the lack of tax disc – although wrong, and I would still ‘grass’, a little tax evasion is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things – but it’s the likelyhood that the car is also uninsured, has no MOT ticket, probably unroadworthy, and quite possibly not correctly registered.

It is this behaviour that deserves the bloody nose (figuratively speaking of course).

And yes, I speak as somebody innocently involved in an RTA where the (currently untraced) driver of the other vehicle turned out to be of the type above. The worthless piece of human excrement.

So shop the f*****s I reckon.

Cheers, Phil

sadoksevoli

1,232 posts

258 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Ok nerve and defiance are admirable but I bet people who don't pay never bother to vote or protest to their MP (ok it never seems to do much good but if we all did it they would have to listen) which are the ways one is supposed to go about changing the system.

salty-nlv

Original Poster:

438 posts

260 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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That's what I like , a nice balanced debate!!!

I didn't say I was going to grass on them but I jsut wanted to know whether you all felt I should just turn the other cheek so to speak and get on with better things...

Alhough one of these sods with no tax keeps parking outsiode my house , in my parking spot when he lives up the road..Bloody annoying, maybe I should just torch his car!!! Only joking..

P.S. If they tried to give me a bloody nose for shopping them I'd soon send them packing with a Stokie kiss...oops sorry must stop dreaming!!

I'm a tree hugging pacifist really

>> Edited by salty-nlv on Thursday 16th January 13:13

Leadfoot

1,901 posts

282 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Shop him for taking your parking space - that's well OUT OF ORDER!

Del Sydyway

101 posts

259 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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You're as miserable sod , really, it's only road tax and all you're doing is adding to the 'let's grass someone' culture that in my opinion is far more distastefull than having no road tax.

Spoken as someone who was grassed up for having no road tax BTW - www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=10&h=0&t=26117

>> Edited by Del Sydyway on Thursday 16th January 23:56

sadoksevoli

1,232 posts

258 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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It's exactly this "a grass is an @rse" attitude that starts with these more menial matters and works its way right up to the fact that witnesses won't ever come forward for major crimes because of this anti-grassing mentality that belongs in the playground.

Ok snitching can be socially divisive - the Nazis relied on it to ensure the Gestapo could keep an eye on their population, but when it crosses the line towards preventing true justice being handed out to those who deserve it then by stigmatising grasses when they are perfectly within their rights to shop someone for not paying what we all have to pay - then the rot in society is being aided and abetted - also sounds like sour grapes from Del - "harduparse" or not.

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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I agree on that one, I find the 'shop a mate and get some dosh' as distasteful as the current wave of litigious companies advertising on the telly. If someone is persistantly taking the piss, make a discrete phone call, if you see someone attempting to drive whilst totally bladdered do something, but lets keep it in perspective, I've driven with an out of date disc for a short time till I could afford to renew it, didn't feel good about it but couldn't avoid it.......as for parking in yer space, torch the f**kers car, thats well out of order

CraigAlsop

1,991 posts

269 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Del Sydyway said: all you're doing is adding to the 'let's grass someone' culture
I'm in 2 minds on this one - on one hand you could see it as "lets grass someone"; on the other hand, it's people finally starting to take part in policing society, rather than crossing the street to ignore something that is going on.

Where do you draw the line? Personally I don't want someone phoning the police if they see me speeding, but OTOH I would like the police phoned if someone saw me getting beaten up....

Del Sydyway

101 posts

259 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Apache, Craig yer both in the ballpark. It's keeping a sense of perspective. As I said it's only road tax.

Nazi's, Gestapo - wtf.

Sour grapes - nah, was chuffed to bits to be grassed up by an anonymous neighbour and to explain to my kids why the police were at my front door. Which neighbour was it? - no idea, still wondering who it was. Really increased my community spirit. If the neighbour had come to the door and said to me they objected to it then fine (pardon the pun). But no, they did it their way.

ccag2762

4 posts

256 months

Saturday 18th January 2003
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well iv helped the police sevral times and once just once i did get a thank you, if more copps said thanks then we would report more

outlaw

1,893 posts

267 months

Sunday 19th January 2003
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salty-nlv said: That's what I like , a nice balanced debate!!!

I didn't say I was going to grass on them but I jsut wanted to know whether you all felt I should just turn the other cheek so to speak and get on with better things...

Alhough one of these sods with no tax keeps parking outsiode my house , in my parking spot when he lives up the road..Bloody annoying, maybe I should just torch his car!!! Only joking..

P.S. If they tried to give me a bloody nose for shopping them I'd soon send them packing with a Stokie kiss...oops sorry must stop dreaming!!

I'm a tree hugging pacifist really

>> Edited by salty-nlv on Thursday 16th January 13:13



now that i would agreey withif hesparking in your spase tourch it and smack him


dont be a grass

madcop

6,649 posts

264 months

Sunday 19th January 2003
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outlaw said:

now that i would agreey withif hesparking in your spase tourch it and smack him


dont be a grass


Good advice outlaw. What if he happens to be bigger than you?
Get someone else to do it I suppose

Still, it means that people that do this will see that I and my colleagues are never out of employment

DJFish

5,923 posts

264 months

Sunday 19th January 2003
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I'm moved to post a reply to this one,

I used to live in a wee house in a wee road with residents parking on one side and double yellows on the other.
The local council used to make the residents pay for permits to park outside our own houses and also for visitors permits, as is the way with these things they issued more permits than there were spaces.
Every Sunday the plod'u'like would come round and ticket every car that had to park on the kerb due to lack of space (double yellows) regardless of whether they were displaying a residents permit.

One morning I arrived home after working all night to find a car without any sort of permit in the residents bay right outside my house, I called the council parking dept only to be told that their wardens didn't work weekends, then I called the local plodshop to be told that they didn't 'do' residents parking issues but would be only too happy to give me a ticket if they found my car on the pavement later in the day.
I therefore had no option but to take a dump on the offending vehicle's bonnet!




Well obviously I didn't because I'm English but I say shop the buggers if it makes you feel better, the chances are no-one will do a danm thing about it anyway!

Dave

outlaw

1,893 posts

267 months

Sunday 19th January 2003
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madcop said:

outlaw said:

now that i would agreey withif hesparking in your spase tourch it and smack him


dont be a grass


Good advice outlaw. What if he happens to be bigger than you?
Get someone else to do it I suppose

Still, it means that people that do this will see that I and my colleagues are never out of employment




dont you lot do the same if you got a fight`er on record

you lot just get a van load up for the job

Only diference is we take biger clubs with us as we on our way to a base ball game



>> Edited by outlaw on Sunday 19th January 18:17

CraigAlsop

1,991 posts

269 months

Sunday 19th January 2003
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madcop said:
Still, it means that people that do this will see that I and my colleagues are never out of employment

Unlike the rest of us, I don't think that unemployment is going to be an issue for you