Road Tax shirkers
Discussion
So getting 2 un-taxed and un-insured vehicles off the public road makes me a grass then does it?
I wonder what peoples' views would be if they (or friends or family) were involved in an RTA with such a vehicle?
For the record, before contacting the DVLA I did
a)put a note under each windscreen pointing out that the tax had expired
b)put a note through his letterbox to the same affect
Just in case he'd suffered from the headuparsesometimes virus
It seems that he didn't as others in the street had tried the same approach over the previous months, giving him ample opportunity to correct the situation. He was therefore taking the pi$$ and deserved to lose his cars.
I wonder what peoples' views would be if they (or friends or family) were involved in an RTA with such a vehicle?
For the record, before contacting the DVLA I did
a)put a note under each windscreen pointing out that the tax had expired
b)put a note through his letterbox to the same affect
Just in case he'd suffered from the headuparsesometimes virus
It seems that he didn't as others in the street had tried the same approach over the previous months, giving him ample opportunity to correct the situation. He was therefore taking the pi$$ and deserved to lose his cars.
FunkyGibbon said: So getting 2 un-taxed and un-insured vehicles off the public road makes me a grass then does it?
I wonder what peoples' views would be if they (or friends or family) were involved in an RTA with such a vehicle?
For the record, before contacting the DVLA I did
a)put a note under each windscreen pointing out that the tax had expired
b)put a note through his letterbox to the same affect
Just in case he'd suffered from the headuparsesometimes virus
It seems that he didn't as others in the street had tried the same approach over the previous months, giving him ample opportunity to correct the situation. He was therefore taking the pi$$ and deserved to lose his cars.
Did you sign it ?
FunkyGibbon said:
outlaw said:
The notes made it clear who I was. (If that's what you meant)
bet your have some fun, back from them then.
he`s probley planing his revenge as we speak.
if i was him your car and house would have been up in smoke by now.
>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 20th January 14:45
outlaw said:
bet your have some fun, back from them then.
he`s probley planing his revenge as we speak.
if i was him your car and house would have been up in smoke by now.
>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 20th January 14:45
Didn't use my name on the offical DVLA forms
He just thinks I'm one of the friendly neighbours.It is a really tricky one this isn't it. I instinctively agree with Outlaws view, cos if people grassed on everything law breaking I did I'd have been in serious trouble on occaision.....
One point...having no tax doesnt invalidate insuarance or MOT...therefore all he's actually doing that you KNOW about is dodging tax (though I agree it's likely he aint got anythnig else either). Would you feel more or less well inclined towards him if you knew he had 3 cars and was already paying 2 lots of tax for the decent ones and just used this as an (insured) runabout....but wasn't inclined to line her majestys coffers any further than he already is?
And if that aint relevant...what about someone who has no car at all but several horses which they trot up and down the road every morning? no tax but the road's being used....?
One point...having no tax doesnt invalidate insuarance or MOT...therefore all he's actually doing that you KNOW about is dodging tax (though I agree it's likely he aint got anythnig else either). Would you feel more or less well inclined towards him if you knew he had 3 cars and was already paying 2 lots of tax for the decent ones and just used this as an (insured) runabout....but wasn't inclined to line her majestys coffers any further than he already is?
And if that aint relevant...what about someone who has no car at all but several horses which they trot up and down the road every morning? no tax but the road's being used....?
FunkyGibbon said:
outlaw said:
bet your have some fun, back from them then.
he`s probley planing his revenge as we speak.
if i was him your car and house would have been up in smoke by now.
>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 20th January 14:45
Didn't use my name on the offical DVLA forms
If your so proud of it . why dont you go knock on his door a tell him it was you ?
He just thinks I'm one of the friendly neighbours.
these are just the kind of slimey two faced w*nkers.
I hate having for neighbours. and where i come from end up having a nasty acident one dark night
when the pissed the wrougn peeps once to often.
>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 20th January 18:43
>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 20th January 18:45
The problem is that sour grapes can go as far as criminal damage, harrassment or worse - no "It's a fair cop guv" attitude - just "So you're the grass...where's my baseball bat...ug"
...and no police protection - so stay anonymous - especially if enough warning was given - why should you be honest when the offender isn't honest enough to pay road tax.
...and no police protection - so stay anonymous - especially if enough warning was given - why should you be honest when the offender isn't honest enough to pay road tax.
Road tax i hate its just like the outdated T.V licence, naf all goes on the roads we all know that and where is the logic why should your poor Grandma who does sod all miles a year pay the same as Mr i represent the company doing 25.000miles plus. Same old story we pay for the politicians road tax and the poor suffer nothing new there.
I was at the Motorshow last year on the D.V.L.A stand and mentioned my idea, put the tax in fuel give the jobless at the D.v.L.A there P45sresult
no more post
no more court costs
less staff required
the best bit those who use the roads pay for them
They were not too keen must be a cushy job
I was at the Motorshow last year on the D.V.L.A stand and mentioned my idea, put the tax in fuel give the jobless at the D.v.L.A there P45sresult
no more post
no more court costs
less staff required
the best bit those who use the roads pay for them
They were not too keen must be a cushy job
Spoke to a bike dealer a couple of years ago on this subject.
"Road Tax", he said, "I opted out of that scheme years ago..."
They should put the tax on petrol, then what you pay is directly proportional to how much you drive and there's no avoiding it.
And make you display the MOT on the screen to keep the knackers off the road.
"Road Tax", he said, "I opted out of that scheme years ago..."
They should put the tax on petrol, then what you pay is directly proportional to how much you drive and there's no avoiding it.
And make you display the MOT on the screen to keep the knackers off the road.
Here in Hungary (plus other countries) you have a sticker on the number plate to indicate you have a valid green-card (MOT equivalent) these are serialised to prevent swapping to other cars.
We also have to carry registration document, driving licence and insurance at all times when driving the car. Very easy to spot and stop 'invalid' cars.
No national road tax but there is a local council tax for having a car, paid yearly.
We also have to carry registration document, driving licence and insurance at all times when driving the car. Very easy to spot and stop 'invalid' cars.
No national road tax but there is a local council tax for having a car, paid yearly.
I agree with Craig its all about a sense of proportion. In general I would normally never shop anyone for a minor road offence, but since no tax does invalidate the insurance not reporting some one is not fair to other road users, and pedestrian, who may suffer if he damages them or there vehicle and there is no insurance cover.
So if the tax was a month or two out of date I would most likely not do anything, maybe point it out if I knew the person, and stress I was not concerned about the tax but the fact that they had no insurance.
After that yes I would grass
So if the tax was a month or two out of date I would most likely not do anything, maybe point it out if I knew the person, and stress I was not concerned about the tax but the fact that they had no insurance.
After that yes I would grass
I think the goverment road tax is pathetic and a huge rip off. As someone here said before only 10% of that revenue actually goes into the road system.
I would never dodge it as I couldnt be bothered with the consequences. However, I would never act as a goverment puppet and report people who dont pay. Its their decision if they want to take that risk.
This is my point of view for what its worth.
Deester.
I would never dodge it as I couldnt be bothered with the consequences. However, I would never act as a goverment puppet and report people who dont pay. Its their decision if they want to take that risk.
This is my point of view for what its worth.
Deester.
hertsbiker said: why does no tax actually need to invalidate the insurance? if it was made a totally sperate issue, it would reduce the severity of no tax, and protect more people. Or is it just another cynical way of the Insurance people being in bed with the government?
Your insurance requires the vehicle to conform to all legal requirements to be used on the road. This naturally includes the road tax.
When I moved to Hungary I took a UK registered car with me, on a 12 month continuous green card for insurance. I still had to have the car road-taxed for the UK or the insurance was invalid. i pointed out the car would never be used on UK roads (SORN comes to mind) but the insurance company basically said no tax, no insurance. Plus an MOT of course
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