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MrFlibbles

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7,692 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Damn it. The dreaded double flasher.

Non residential dual carriageway limit down from 60 to 40. A camera just after the limit change. I reckon i was doing about 55....

I pass that camera every bloody day!

Assuming it had film in, just the standard 3pts?

edited: Can a mod censor my the rude bit out of my thread title, sorry.

Edited by MrFlibbles on Friday 23 June 23:01

julianhj

8,753 posts

263 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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I earned my only conviction in exactly the same circumstances about 5 years ago, doing the same speed. FPN with 3pts/£60 fine...

MrFlibbles

Original Poster:

7,692 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Thanks Julian

Robin Hood

42 posts

254 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Did they sign the speed change? Was it roadworks?

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Were the really big signs with a 40 in them a clue that you used and the huge yellow box a hint that you might get done?

Just trying to help other readers who might get unfairly nailed by these hidden hazards...

deeps

5,393 posts

242 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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MrFlibbles said:
Damn it. The dreaded double flasher.

Non residential dual carriageway limit down from 60 to 40. A camera just after the limit change. I reckon i was doing about 55....

I pass that camera every bloody day!

Assuming it had film in, just the standard 3pts?

edited: Can a mod censor my the rude bit out of my thread title, sorry.

Edited by MrFlibbles on Friday 23 June 23:01

It's easy to forget for a second that the camera's there, especially when you're concentrating on your driving, that's all it takes. I drive to the circumstances not the limit, so I've been there many times. Forget to think !watch for the scam! for one second and it's got you. Totally different than watching for real hazards. Good luck anyway!


MrFlibbles

Original Poster:

7,692 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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deeps said:
MrFlibbles said:
Damn it. The dreaded double flasher.

Non residential dual carriageway limit down from 60 to 40. A camera just after the limit change. I reckon i was doing about 55....

I pass that camera every bloody day!

Assuming it had film in, just the standard 3pts?

edited: Can a mod censor my the rude bit out of my thread title, sorry.

Edited by MrFlibbles on Friday 23 June 23:01

It's easy to forget for a second that the camera's there, especially when you're concentrating on your driving, that's all it takes. I drive to the circumstances not the limit, so I've been there many times. Forget to think !watch for the scam! for one second and it's got you. Totally different than watching for real hazards. Good luck anyway!




Ho hum, we live and learn!

7db said:
Were the really big signs with a 40 in them a clue that you used and the huge yellow box a hint that you might get done?


gregwatson

1,049 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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7db - do you have any points yet?

If not, I can't wait to hear your response when you get some...

vonhosen

40,282 posts

218 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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deeps said:
MrFlibbles said:
Damn it. The dreaded double flasher.

Non residential dual carriageway limit down from 60 to 40. A camera just after the limit change. I reckon i was doing about 55....

I pass that camera every bloody day!

Assuming it had film in, just the standard 3pts?

edited: Can a mod censor my the rude bit out of my thread title, sorry.

Edited by MrFlibbles on Friday 23 June 23:01

It's easy to forget for a second that the camera's there, especially when you're concentrating on your driving, that's all it takes. I drive to the circumstances not the limit, so I've been there many times. Forget to think !watch for the scam! for one second and it's got you. Totally different than watching for real hazards. Good luck anyway!




It's hardly a scam, it's well advertised & widely known that you are allowed to judge the safe speed for the circumstances up to & not beyond the limit. Oh & the limit starts at the terminal signs, not some imaginary line that you draw yourself some distance past them.

If you decide to drive just to the circumstances everywhere (which I very much doubt you do, because if you were doing that you'd probably travelling a lot faster than you do on some occasions too) then there is a very real chance that you are going to aquire some penalty points along the way at some time.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 24th June 10:56

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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gregwatson said:
7db - do you have any points yet?
If not, I can't wait to hear your response when you get some...


Were I to collect points from a camera I knew in the scenario described by the OP, I'd be very disappointed with myself indeed.

gregwatson

1,049 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Uhhuh

So have you ever collected any points for speeding? I'd be interested to know the circumstances...

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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gregwatson said:
Uhhuh

So have you ever collected any points for speeding? I'd be interested to know the circumstances...


Not sure how many points that I may have and the circumstances of their harvesting are relevant here. Thanks for the interest.

gregwatson

1,049 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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I suppose nothing immediately relevant to the post, just the tone of your reply triggered the question. But if you don't feel comfrotable answering it, that's fine. Kinda tells me what I wanted to know anyhow.


gregwatson

1,049 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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deeps said:
It's easy to forget for a second that the camera's there, especially when you're concentrating on your driving, that's all it takes. I drive to the circumstances not the limit, so I've been there many times. Forget to think !watch for the scam! for one second and it's got you. Totally different than watching for real hazards. Good luck anyway!


Tsk tsk, you've picked up some bad habits. Driving safely and according to the circumstances - oh dear oh dear. Might have been considered acceptable a few years back, but these days I'm afraid we don't approve of that sort of thing.

As in so many other aspects of life in England today, you have confused what is right with what is legal. Right is the old-fashioned way of doing things - you know, when common sense existed and was recognised. These days it's only what is legal that counts.

vonhosen

40,282 posts

218 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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gregwatson said:
deeps said:
It's easy to forget for a second that the camera's there, especially when you're concentrating on your driving, that's all it takes. I drive to the circumstances not the limit, so I've been there many times. Forget to think !watch for the scam! for one second and it's got you. Totally different than watching for real hazards. Good luck anyway!


Tsk tsk, you've picked up some bad habits. Driving safely and according to the circumstances - oh dear oh dear. Might have been considered acceptable a few years back, but these days I'm afraid we don't approve of that sort of thing.

As in so many other aspects of life in England today, you have confused what is right with what is legal. Right is the old-fashioned way of doing things - you know, when common sense existed and was recognised. These days it's only what is legal that counts.


That's your opinion of what's right though, others have different ideas.
What you have to be is safe & legal with driving.

autismuk

1,529 posts

241 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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7db said:
Were the really big signs with a 40 in them a clue that you used and the huge yellow box a hint that you might get done?

Just trying to help other readers who might get unfairly nailed by these hidden hazards...


Oh, please.

I drove last Sunday from Norfolk to Milton Keynes. I came across on several occasions ludicrously extended 40mph speed limits on roadworks. For example, on the A14 nr. Cambridge there were two roadworks 'joined together', the first one being apparently nonexistent. The 40mph limit went about 4-5 miles (estimate) before the roadworks actually started. The 40mph limit on the A1 ran virtually entirely from Eaton Socon to the Black Cat, coming back (from A1(s) to Black Cat) the roadworks seem to start miles before any actual roadworks. All of this enthuiastically enforced by the yellow boxes, with the usual pathetic 'this is for safety' signs. Safety, my arse.

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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autismuk said:
7db said:
Were the really big signs with a 40 in them a clue that you used and the huge yellow box a hint that you might get done?

Just trying to help other readers who might get unfairly nailed by these hidden hazards...


Oh, please.

I drove last Sunday from Norfolk to Milton Keynes. I came across on several occasions ludicrously extended 40mph speed limits on roadworks. For example, on the A14 nr. Cambridge there were two roadworks 'joined together', the first one being apparently nonexistent. The 40mph limit went about 4-5 miles (estimate) before the roadworks actually started. The 40mph limit on the A1 ran virtually entirely from Eaton Socon to the Black Cat, coming back (from A1(s) to Black Cat) the roadworks seem to start miles before any actual roadworks. All of this enthuiastically enforced by the yellow boxes, with the usual pathetic 'this is for safety' signs. Safety, my arse.


For God's sake, man! -- you were using the A1 to get from Eaton Socon to Black Cat? God's own B-roads live around there and are derestricted. I have no sympathy. Be careful there, too, as the 40 is quite heavily enforced.

The A14 near Cambridge has an horrendous accident record -- I think principally a result of the inadequate two lane road carrying a lot of port-bound cargo to and from the A1 meaning an unusually high load of heavies. Far better to hop across to the A428.

s2art

18,938 posts

254 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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vonhosen said:
gregwatson said:
deeps said:
It's easy to forget for a second that the camera's there, especially when you're concentrating on your driving, that's all it takes. I drive to the circumstances not the limit, so I've been there many times. Forget to think !watch for the scam! for one second and it's got you. Totally different than watching for real hazards. Good luck anyway!


Tsk tsk, you've picked up some bad habits. Driving safely and according to the circumstances - oh dear oh dear. Might have been considered acceptable a few years back, but these days I'm afraid we don't approve of that sort of thing.

As in so many other aspects of life in England today, you have confused what is right with what is legal. Right is the old-fashioned way of doing things - you know, when common sense existed and was recognised. These days it's only what is legal that counts.


That's your opinion of what's right though, others have different ideas.
What you have to be is safe & legal with driving.


Sure, other can have different ideas. The Nazis thought it right and proper to gas jews for instance. However most sensible, intelligent people would agree that the Nazis were actually quite wrong about this, and so are some of the silly speed limits which seem designed to catch people out rather than improve safety.

vonhosen

40,282 posts

218 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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s2art said:
vonhosen said:
gregwatson said:
deeps said:
It's easy to forget for a second that the camera's there, especially when you're concentrating on your driving, that's all it takes. I drive to the circumstances not the limit, so I've been there many times. Forget to think !watch for the scam! for one second and it's got you. Totally different than watching for real hazards. Good luck anyway!


Tsk tsk, you've picked up some bad habits. Driving safely and according to the circumstances - oh dear oh dear. Might have been considered acceptable a few years back, but these days I'm afraid we don't approve of that sort of thing.

As in so many other aspects of life in England today, you have confused what is right with what is legal. Right is the old-fashioned way of doing things - you know, when common sense existed and was recognised. These days it's only what is legal that counts.


That's your opinion of what's right though, others have different ideas.
What you have to be is safe & legal with driving.


Sure, other can have different ideas. The Nazis thought it right and proper to gas jews for instance. However most sensible, intelligent people would agree that the Nazis were actually quite wrong about this, and so are some of the silly speed limits which seem designed to catch people out rather than improve safety.


apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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7db said:


The A14 near Cambridge has an horrendous accident record -- I think principally a result of the inadequate two lane road carrying a lot of port-bound cargo to and from the A1 meaning an unusually high load of heavies. Far better to hop across to the A428.


One of the most accident prone roads in england, and one of the most camera populated