If attacked, don't shout help, shout

If attacked, don't shout help, shout

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autismuk

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1,529 posts

241 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Fire ????

notwithstanding if you do this in London, you might get shot, but is this good advice ?

www.norfolk.police.uk/articleListing.cfm?bctrail=0,686&catID=706

HUGE

1,138 posts

285 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Its been posted before....I'd love it to be true but it can't be...
Guy phones Police to report there's a burglar trying to get into his house,to be told "sorry Sir,we dont have any available units at the moment"
So the guy phones 999 and reports he's just shot said burglar.
5 minutes later 4 Police cars and an armed response unit come screaming up to his house.
"I thought you said you'd shot a burglar" he gets asked
"I thought you said you didn't have any spare available units " hes supposed to have retorted
Please be true

Nic Jones

7,067 posts

221 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Apparently it is and the story goes that he got charged with wasting police time as well which just about sums up the justice system in this country.

BigBob

1,471 posts

226 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Don't know if that story is true or not - what I DO know is true is my own experience.

A few years back we were constantly plagued by chavs hanging around and drinking, making one hell of a racket etc - generally doing what chavs 'do'.

Phoned the police on many occasions only to be told the old story -"Sorry, no one available ........"

Got really hacked off one night so got the wife to phone. Had the usual response to which she answered "Oh it OK, I didn't expect you to have anyone available but I just wanted you to know that my husband has gone out there with our 2 Dobbermann's to ask them to be quiet. Perhaps you could call up when you've got a spare minute to check that all's OK"

4 minutes later ....... DeeDaw DeeDaw DeeDaw.



BB

LotusNova

512 posts

218 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Brilliant

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Reminds me of the days when I was an IT type. I'd have all kinds of trouble getting through to head office's IT group - they'd never answer their phones or pick up their pages or mail.

My solution?

Portscan their firewall.

They rang me up right away!

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

231 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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BigBob said:
A few years back we were constantly plagued by chavs hanging around and drinking, making one hell of a racket etc - generally doing what chavs 'do'.

Phoned the police on many occasions only to be told the old story -"Sorry, no one available ........"

Got really hacked off one night so got the wife to phone. Had the usual response to which she answered "Oh it OK, I didn't expect you to have anyone available but I just wanted you to know that my husband has gone out there with our 2 Dobbermann's to ask them to be quiet. Perhaps you could call up when you've got a spare minute to check that all's OK"

4 minutes later ....... DeeDaw DeeDaw DeeDaw.


My computer doesn't seem to want to load the story, so I can't comment...

Re the above story. It doesn't suprise me. Police resources are finite I'm afraid. I work a ground where it's fair to say that the majority of calls are somehow youth-related. We literally get hundreds of calls each day.."There's kids hanging around outside, I'm sure they're up to something"....that goes waaaaay down the list. If someone rings up "There's kids hanging around outside, my husbands having a fight with them"....then of course this goes right to the top. Units will be diverted from other calls depending upon the seriousness of the threat/danger to life etc, hence why three units might turn up when minutes before there were none available. By stating that something is happening which isn't, a caller is simply diverting units away from another similar caller who hasn't fibbed, so the response time gets even worse. That's how it works.

Of course, there are more than enough actual uniformed Police on paper to respond to every call made, but the huge majority are sat in offices or on some 'unit' created for six months to gain someone else promotion. But that's another story...

WildCat

8,369 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Und in today's paper. Boy kicks footballs into elderly neighbour's garden. Most are the routine which should elicit the polite request of "Please can I have my ball back".

But the kids started kick heavy leather balls instead of plastic ones. Und when he broke glass of greenhouse .. elderly neighbour got cross und confiscated the footballs. He has returned over 50 balls over a two year period to the officer's young sons. But recently - perhaps with the World Cup - he has been battered by 14 footballs und the last straw was when his greenhouse was damaged by one.

Only...the papa happen to be a police sergeant und within 20 minutes - 4 policemen turned up to arrest the 68 year old for theft. Old geezer said he told his neighbour he could only return the ball if he could guarantee his son would not break his greenhouse und house windows again - the officer refused to ensure his son kicked the ball more towards his own house und not the neighbour's. This ball ist soaring over a 6 ft high wooden fence - there ist a photo in the paper.

Old geezer says he has now lost a lot of faith in the police as a result. Not surprising really if this ist the case. He was handcuffed und treated like a criminal. His wife said that there are a number of burglaries in the area but they are "always too busy to attend these"!

Our sons have broken our windows on occasion when playing football.. we just deduct the cost of replacement from their allowance. It soon stopped them They now play further down our garden. (Naja.. our nearest neighbour lives across a large field - und we have a large hedge down there too.)

Er .... you were saying about "resources" It does not help if resources can be found for "job for a mate" nonsense like this und more serious und dangerous activity ignored.

Stubby Pete

2,488 posts

247 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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We can all bitch about the Police and their responce times etc etc.
Do something about it, lobby your MP for more visible Policing and get them to stop this ridiculous PSO (police Support Officer) idea. They don't even have the power to search or arrest you! You might be able to get twice as many on the street for the money but as soon as the local scrotes are aware of their lack of power (which has already happened) they ignore them conpletely and even taunt them. With such a lack of basic respect to all including themsleves, there is little hope for the future, hopefully they will drive away at 35mph and get caught for that!

bluesandtwos

357 posts

261 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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"They don't even have the power to search or arrest you"

SOCAP regulations changed all that in January.. I have seen PCSOs as arresting officers on crimes..

I am not going to get into the debate as I am sick of it at work but lets just say its a serious conversation point atm..

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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Hollywood Wheels said:
BigBob said:
A few years back we were constantly plagued by chavs hanging around and drinking, making one hell of a racket etc - generally doing what chavs 'do'.

Phoned the police on many occasions only to be told the old story -"Sorry, no one available ........"

Got really hacked off one night so got the wife to phone. Had the usual response to which she answered "Oh it OK, I didn't expect you to have anyone available but I just wanted you to know that my husband has gone out there with our 2 Dobbermann's to ask them to be quiet. Perhaps you could call up when you've got a spare minute to check that all's OK"

4 minutes later ....... DeeDaw DeeDaw DeeDaw.


My computer doesn't seem to want to load the story, so I can't comment...

Re the above story. It doesn't suprise me. Police resources are finite I'm afraid. I work a ground where it's fair to say that the majority of calls are somehow youth-related. We literally get hundreds of calls each day.."There's kids hanging around outside, I'm sure they're up to something"....that goes waaaaay down the list. If someone rings up "There's kids hanging around outside, my husbands having a fight with them"....then of course this goes right to the top. Units will be diverted from other calls depending upon the seriousness of the threat/danger to life etc, hence why three units might turn up when minutes before there were none available. By stating that something is happening which isn't, a caller is simply diverting units away from another similar caller who hasn't fibbed, so the response time gets even worse. That's how it works.

Of course, there are more than enough actual uniformed Police on paper to respond to every call made, but the huge majority are sat in offices or on some 'unit' created for six months to gain someone else promotion. But that's another story...
And one that Tony B'Liar and that guy at "Reid (no Ministry cock-up too large I can't make it worse) Secretarial" won't want airing! - Streaky