Temporary speed limits
Discussion
Vaux said:
Where temp limits are in place, for example road works on a motorway, is it OK (legal) to bring the limit down from 70 to 40 directly? I read somewhere that the reduction should not be more than 20 mph at a time - so 70-50-40.
With roadworks you will generally get a 3/4 mile warning to the reduction.
vonhosen said:
With roadworks you will generally get a 3/4 mile warning to the reduction.
Only helps if you look though. Yesterday a nasty RTC on M56 J12 coming into a SPECS monitored 40 mph - always get a lot of heavy braking at the 40 signs (although the cameras are a few hundred yards away). Mercedes got it very wrong and ended up parked on its side up the verge in the trees.
I can't help thinking a more gradual speed reduction would ease the traffic flow.
Vaux said:
vonhosen said:
With roadworks you will generally get a 3/4 mile warning to the reduction.
Only helps if you look though. Yesterday a nasty RTC on M56 J12 coming into a SPECS monitored 40 mph - always get a lot of heavy braking at the 40 signs (although the cameras are a few hundred yards away). Mercedes got it very wrong and ended up parked on its side up the verge in the trees.
I can't help thinking a more gradual speed reduction would ease the traffic flow.
Doesn't policy pander enough to idiots already then?
tvrgit said:
Doesn't policy pander enough to idiots already then?
Well, yes. I know the answer is they should see the advanced warning signs, see the speed limit signs and pass them at the legal speed (if safe to do so etc.) or they shouldn't be allowed on a motorway.
But most of them can't.
My point is if the change in speed limit wasn't so "extreme", people wouldn't think "$hit, I really have to slow down now!", BRAKE, and cause problems for others. Like the Police, Ambulance, Fire and HATO who had to deal with the RTC yesterday.
vonhosen said:
With roadworks you will generally get a 3/4 mile warning to the reduction.
There doesn't seem to be any warning on the approach to the M1 Luton roadworks, and it always produces a lot of confusion where cars that carry on onto the speed limit at 70+ mph encounter cars that have slowed right down for the limit.
streaky said:
Photograph and short article in yesterday's Daily Mail (SWMBO buys it!) showing a 50, 40 (on road) and 30 signs within 100 or so yards of each other. Confused? You will be, by this week's episode of ... (for those who remember) - Streaky
Where was this S? Wild and wolly Worcestershire by any chance? If not I have another example.
Well actually I can cite a case where the limit 'technically' goes from 70 to 20, AND there is no warning at 3/4 mile.
To be fair only a muppet would actually BE doing 70 at the point they round the bend and confronted with the 20 markers but that is besides the point. Quite in order to have pegged it back to around 50.
Not so clear cut now is it?
To be fair only a muppet would actually BE doing 70 at the point they round the bend and confronted with the 20 markers but that is besides the point. Quite in order to have pegged it back to around 50.
Not so clear cut now is it?
tigger1 said:
Flat in Fifth said:
10 Pence Short said:
Is that on a motorway, though?
Yes! link road between two motorways.
And is that a "limit" or an "advisory" max speed on a tight bend? Madness if its a limit.
trust me on this tigger it was a limit, red roundels white background black 20, genuine 20 limit signs, I have no idea if the traffic order itself was valid.
But as you say madness, especially considering the position.
tvrgit said:
Vaux said:
vonhosen said:
With roadworks you will generally get a 3/4 mile warning to the reduction.
Only helps if you look though. Yesterday a nasty RTC on M56 J12 coming into a SPECS monitored 40 mph - always get a lot of heavy braking at the 40 signs (although the cameras are a few hundred yards away). Mercedes got it very wrong and ended up parked on its side up the verge in the trees.
I can't help thinking a more gradual speed reduction would ease the traffic flow.
Doesn't policy pander enough to idiots already then?
Agreed. Van driver was an idiot. Should be prosecuted for dwdcaa. Don't give the authorities any more excuses for dumbing the roads down further.
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