Wrecked Gatsos in the Express today

Wrecked Gatsos in the Express today

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AlexH

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2,505 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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p.16 if anyone wants to look...but my pleasure at seeing those pics turned to incredulity when I read the quote from Susan Beck of the 'Safety Camera Partnership': "Speed cameras are only placed where there is a history of speed-related accidents, where a minimum of four people have died."

I'd like to see if she would repeat that in court, under oath.

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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Presume it's the same story as
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2713083.stm

Can you scan in the picture???

J

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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Alex, email the woman and express your views,

www.safecam.org.uk/

however, if your response is anything like mine was you'll soon realise the futility in any form of debate with these brainwashed/lying morons, good luck

deltaf

1,384 posts

258 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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Lmao! This is what we want. More cameras means more opportunities to burn em, thereby costing the state more money from their precious profits.
To the guys who did this terrible act of "vandalism" (sniggers) Jolly Good Show!
Dont get copped tho!

AlexH

Original Poster:

2,505 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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Joust - sorry can't scan, but its not the same story, its actually about cameras up and down the country being vandalised with a series of 6 pics of butchered Gatsos.

Apache - cheers for the suggestion, but I might try banging my head against a brick wall instead, as I'd probably have more joy!

On the other hand, anything which wastes their time might be worth doing...

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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www.safecam.org.uk/



Hee hee they have a questionire we can bugger up

go to feedback and pretent you live in the area

miniman

24,981 posts

263 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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(from BBC)In December two cameras in Morecambe and one in Lancaster were chopped down with a chainsaw.



Just been to the site and filled in the "online survey". No doubt the data will be binned because I elected to leave out the "what is your postcode" question.

the jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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Filled this in too. Hope that more people do as the questioning style is seriously biased.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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Been there and filled it in.

Omitting your postcode won't matter, they say it's optional.

Come on, you lot, get participating in this valuable bit of research. For once, they're not seeking out the bed-bound for the survey.

Don't get carried away, the last question is for red light cameras. I assume we all agree these are A Good Thing?

I also suggest we don't abuse it by each putting in multiple responses. I guess they would be disregarded.

Byff

4,427 posts

262 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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Form complete

TJMurphy

239 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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Another one on the BBC website now:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2726571.stm

Hit by a "bomb" this time. Which seems a bit over the top don't you think - I'm developing some sympathy for people who want to destroy them but if they're going to try and take themselves and others out then I'm going to lose sympathy again.

deltaf

1,384 posts

258 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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Thats a curious response Tj. I dont think that whoever did that was trying to take out anyone, the time it was set off should at least indicate that.
Also, where was this one situated? If its one of these cams thats out in the sticks, then plainly they were simply going after the cam.
No body could support deliberate targetting of the maintenance personnel, or passers by.
The cops are using more and more sneaky and underhanded methods to make a dollar, so i support the destruction of these edifices of state control.
I dont support harming people, maybe they should have just burnt it.
Unless theyre making a statement of some kind?

Richard C

1,685 posts

258 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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Bomb eh. How convenient.

Well, having sanctified these underhanded devices by attaching the sacred taboo words ' safety' and 'think of the children' all thats left is 'terrorism'.

If it really was a bomb why was there no dramatic picture instead of an urban scene.

I frankly don't believe anything these spin doctors come up with anymore

miniman

24,981 posts

263 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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TJMurphy said: Another one on the BBC website now:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2726571.stm



Lovely jubbly, that was a Truvelo one too! Sadly it means that now I have no reason to slow down on the way to the inlaws.

Aprisa

1,803 posts

259 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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Done the survey, why is it just the south west and why didn't it tell you that until the end?
Probably pointless anyway
lies, damn lies and statistics etc
Nick

deltaf

1,384 posts

258 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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Richard i like your style....


>> Edited by deltaf on Wednesday 5th February 10:01

TJMurphy

239 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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deltaf said: Thats a curious response Tj. I dont think that whoever did that was trying to take out anyone, the time it was set off should at least indicate that.
Also, where was this one situated? If its one of these cams thats out in the sticks, then plainly they were simply going after the cam.
No body could support deliberate targetting of the maintenance personnel, or passers by.
The cops are using more and more sneaky and underhanded methods to make a dollar, so i support the destruction of these edifices of state control.
I dont support harming people, maybe they should have just burnt it.
Unless theyre making a statement of some kind?


Please take my response as being anti-bomb, not anti-anti-speed camera at all - do all these anti's cancel each other out
Interesting point I hadn't thought of from Richard though - why wasn't there a picture of the remains of a camera! OMG I must be starting to believe some of the stuff I read.

AlexH

Original Poster:

2,505 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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I have to say, looking at the 'Safety' Camera Partnership site, one of the things they have come out with absolutely beggars belief; get this:

"Road crashes are one of the main causes of the hospital waiting list problem."

So the NHS waiting lists will be solved by more speed cameras...its so obvious, I'm amazed noone had thought of it sooner!

TJMurphy

239 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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AlexH said: I have to say, looking at the 'Safety' Camera Partnership site, one of the things they have come out with absolutely beggars belief; get this:

"Road crashes are one of the main causes of the hospital waiting list problem."

So the NHS waiting lists will be solved by more speed cameras...its so obvious, I'm amazed noone had thought of it sooner!




According to an Aussie colleague in my office, back home, one of the things used to justify the cameras goes something along the lines of:
* speeding causes accidents
* accidents leave people in hospital
* hospital care is expensive
* so we'll raise the money for your health care by using cameras

Sounds a bit similar to Alex's comment really.

CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Wednesday 5th February 2003
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It is the fourth speed camera to be vandalised in north Lancashire in the past two months and is expected to cost £24,000 to replace.
Are you getting the message yet you fcukers?!!!