700 dead scamera and rising...

700 dead scamera and rising...

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Cerby_Mike

Original Poster:

129 posts

247 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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alans

3,364 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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I didn't like the headline much

"They are Mad - or Motorists Against Detection - and are dedicated to destroying the tools that help to keep roads safe"


Chrisgr31

13,488 posts

256 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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The article fails to prove that speed camreas save lives, and does appear to be written by someone who that believes that they work.

However my concern is that if more fixed sites get vandalised they will use more Talivans and of course the Talivans are more difficult to see as most GPS safety devices don't warn of Talivan sites!

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

246 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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With each unit costing £24,000 to replace, .....

Do they cost that much? I bet Gatso are laughing all the way to the bank!

So at 24k to replace a broken one and 60UKP per ticket that's 400 tickets before it breaks even.
Does anyone know how much it costs to Install/Maintain and Administer them? It seams that a large chunk of the fines are going to go straight into the manufacturers pocket.

gopher

5,160 posts

260 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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eerr, anyone know who deltaf works for..?

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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"A counter-attack against the saboteurs is being launched by Susan Beck of the All Safety Camera Partnership, a publicly-funded body that works with the police to decide where Gatsos should be placed."

What's this All Safety Camera Partnership? I've not heard of it before. Why is it publicly-funded? And what qualifications does it have which enable it to contribute to the police's decisions on where to place new Gatsos?

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

249 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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Peter Ward said:
"A counter-attack against the saboteurs is being launched by Susan Beck of the All Safety Camera Partnership, a publicly-funded body that works with the police to decide where Gatsos should be placed."

What's this All Safety Camera Partnership? I've not heard of it before.

www.nationalsafetycameras.co.uk/nscl/nscl/contacts.html
Peter Ward said:
"Why is it publicly-funded?

Why is any quango publicly fuded? They have to get the money from somewhere.
Peter Ward said:
And what qualifications does it have which enable it to contribute to the police's decisions on where to place new Gatsos?

I think that's just bad reporting. AIUI, the local scameraships decide where to put them.

madant69

847 posts

248 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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A thought just struck me here. While I obviously can't condone the wanton destruction of government property (natch), it strikes me that, while they are on fire, the Gatsos are actually doing the job the government says they do.

'Cause at least people slow down to have a look...

pmanson

13,382 posts

254 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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madant69 said:
A thought just struck me here. While I obviously can't condone the wanton destruction of government property (natch), it strikes me that, while they are on fire, the Gatsos are actually doing the job the government says they do.

'Cause at least people slow down to have a look...




madant69 Are you still on for drinks on Tuesday?

cazzo

14,792 posts

268 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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madant69 said:
A thought just struck me here. While I obviously can't condone the wanton destruction of government property (natch), it strikes me that, while they are on fire, the Gatsos are actually doing the job the government says they do.

'Cause at least people slow down to have a look...


Nice one Madant! and @ 700 gone, only a few thousand left

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

246 months

Sunday 16th November 2003
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A short clip from www.cabalamat.org/weblog/art_56.html


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A militant group, Motorists Against Detection (MAD), led by the legendary Captain Gatso, has took it upon itself to vandalise speed cameras, rendering them useless.

Says one website:

Motorists Against Detection (MAD) in the UK have claimed responsibility for taking out about 600 roadside speed cameras (known as Gatsos) across the country, according to spokesman Captain Gatso. The group only targets cameras on main highways, saying that they actually support their usage in built-up areas.
Disabling methods apparently include spray paint, angle-grinders and even plastic explosives!

Cheekily, they add:

CMG does not condone the disablement of Speed Cameras, especially with a spray can, say black, held about 5 inches away form the lens and applied for about 10 seconds.
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Cerby_Mike

Original Poster:

129 posts

247 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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Chrisgr31 said:
The article fails to prove that speed camreas save lives, and does appear to be written by someone who that believes that they work.


I agree, hardly a well researched article, and as you point out, you can tell which way the reporter leans. But 700 down...

Mike

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

264 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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pmanson said:

madant69 said:
A thought just struck me here. While I obviously can't condone the wanton destruction of government property (natch), it strikes me that, while they are on fire, the Gatsos are actually doing the job the government says they do.

'Cause at least people slow down to have a look...





madant69 Are you still on for drinks on Tuesday?


I second that question - as stated in my post in General Gassing.

OJG

49 posts

265 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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xxxxxxrich said:
I bet Gatso are laughing all the way to the bank!


You don't think Gatso are in charge of the group torching Gatso's do you...

tuscan_thunder

1,763 posts

247 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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700 dead gatsos.

what a shame

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

257 months

Monday 17th November 2003
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jeffreyarcher said:


Peter Ward said:
"A counter-attack against the saboteurs is being launched by Susan Beck of the All Safety Camera Partnership, a publicly-funded body that works with the police to decide where Gatsos should be placed."

What's this All Safety Camera Partnership? I've not heard of it before.



<a href="http://www.nationalsafetycameras.co.uk/nscl/nscl/contacts.html">www.nationalsafetycameras.co.uk/nscl/nscl/contacts.html</a>


Peter Ward said:
"Why is it publicly-funded?



Why is any quango publicly fuded? They have to get the money from somewhere.


Peter Ward said:
And what qualifications does it have which enable it to contribute to the police's decisions on where to place new Gatsos?



I think that's just bad reporting. AIUI, the local scameraships decide where to put them.



Thanks. So the article actually meant the National Safety Camera Liaison. Well I suppose it was close.

>> Edited by Peter Ward on Monday 17th November 14:48