A story of dishonesty, daylight robbery, disgust and deceit.

A story of dishonesty, daylight robbery, disgust and deceit.

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14-7

6,233 posts

192 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Dizeee said:
14-7 said:
After rall the fuss and rigamorale you've kicked up I can't believe that you couldn't be bothered either sending a letter or turning up at court.
If you open you eyes and read what I have said, as Landshark has eluded to below, you will see it is nothing to do with not being bothered or not wanting to go, I COULDN'T go - it was never an option.
I hoped for your own sake that you'd win but it seems that it's another case of someone kicking up a fuss then not being bothered to see it through due to one excuse or another.

You make time for things that are important to you. Obviously this wasn't.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th November 2009
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Dizeee said:
14-7 said:
After rall the fuss and rigamorale you've kicked up I can't believe that you couldn't be bothered either sending a letter or turning up at court.
If you open you eyes and read what I have said, as Landshark has eluded to below, you will see it is nothing to do with not being bothered or not wanting to go, I COULDN'T go - it was never an option.
You must have spent more time posting on here than it would have taken to send something off to the court.

willd58

1,559 posts

209 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Dizeee said:
14-7 said:
After rall the fuss and rigamorale you've kicked up I can't believe that you couldn't be bothered either sending a letter or turning up at court.
If you open you eyes and read what I have said, as Landshark has eluded to below, you will see it is nothing to do with not being bothered or not wanting to go, I COULDN'T go - it was never an option.
"either sending a letter" And you couldn't of taken an hour to send a letter?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Very disappointing that the OP couldn't be bothered to take this whole thing more seriously.

All he's done is hand the clampers another hollow victory.

F i F

44,140 posts

252 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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As above, why didn't you ask for a new date if you were in the middle of something that could not be missed?

Thread with 40-odd wasted pages.

I'd have more respect if you'd said "OK lads at the last minute I just bottled it."

Edited by F i F on Friday 20th November 10:02

B Oeuf

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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I feel so cheated, so...........let down, it's like one of Flashmans posts

croyde

22,968 posts

231 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Ah well! at least I can delete this from My Stuff.

Mr Green

936 posts

183 months

B Oeuf

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Mr Green said:
bout frigging time

oldsoak

5,618 posts

203 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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B Oeuf said:
Mr Green said:
bout frigging time the whole lot of them were banned never mind 'controlled'
EFA

JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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F i F said:
As above, why didn't you ask for a new date if you were in the middle of something that could not be missed?

Thread with 40-odd wasted pages.

I'd have more respect if you'd said "OK lads at the last minute I just bottled it."

Edited by F i F on Friday 20th November 10:02
I have to agree.

On the court allocation questionnaire you can specify dates that you are not available. Failing that, you can still ask the court to alter the date should you not be able to attend.

Failing even that, you can provide a witness statement and supply evidence.


To be honest, if he knew that he wasn't doing any of those, the best thing to do would be to inform all parties that the case was being dropped. At least that way he would have avoided the bill from the clampers coming to court.

The final outcome is that effectively that the OP has paid even more for his clamping...

_dobbo_

14,387 posts

249 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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Yeah, but his circumstances have changed now so he can laugh about it. Ho ho ho.


Pvapour

8,981 posts

254 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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_dobbo_ said:
Yeah, but his circumstances have changed now so he can laugh about it. Ho ho ho.
is that a subliminal message?

Dizzee now has extra income from his new Santa position xmas

F i F

44,140 posts

252 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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oldsoak said:
B Oeuf said:
Mr Green said:
bout frigging time the whole lot of them were banned never mind 'controlled'
EFA
this^^ i.e. banned not merely controlled.

I warned about this quite a few pages back. What this legislation will do is legitimise the buggers which is the last thing we want.

By all means private landowners have to have some method to deal with people who abuse their land. Clamping should not be one of those means, Scotland has dealt with it correctly.

By all means legislate about the private parking situation and take it away from civil law, really put the sods under notice to clean up their respective acts. To be honest I would include something about landowners having to have made some effort to deal with access, and not just by sticking a few grotty faded notices up.

No doubt if this even gets to the statute book before the pre-election slash and burn exercise, it will not have been thought through properly and will make things worse. << Prediction based on prev Labour legislation.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,353 posts

207 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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I can understand your frustration that I have not followed it through, if you knew my circumstances you would understand. There are clear and simple reasons why I have not been able to follow this through - unfortunatley these reasons are not appropriate for posting on a public forum.

Mr Green

936 posts

183 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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IMO It was brave of you to take them on, I wouldn't have. That said the people that said beating them was a done deal encouraged you to challenge this(possibly unfair) charge and now moan because due to the pressures of life it didn't work out, the least they could do is to say well done for trying.

Well done anyway.

Pvapour

8,981 posts

254 months

Friday 20th November 2009
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was it that millions of kids would not get their Christmas pressents ? having to manage the Elfs must be tricky I'd imagine smile

Gallen

2,162 posts

256 months

Wednesday 25th November 2009
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Dizeee

It's a shame you didn't see it through - whatever the reasons.

Can't understand why you didnt adjust the date or at the very least send in a letter and statement explaining your circumstances... but there you go.

I for one was rooting for you, as was JustinP1 judging by his detailed advice.

All the best.

cymtriks

4,560 posts

246 months

Friday 27th November 2009
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Two ways to deal with this:

1) Get a garage to tow away the car complete with clamp. Send clampers the bill for car-ing the clamp (i.e. the opposite of clamping the car). This has actually been done!
2) Get a banger and park it on the space. Keep doing this. Keep reporting any removal of a car as theft. Say you'll stop if all costs are paid. Tell Argos that their manager is complicit in the theft (as his store employs the people making the theft) and cc him/her correspondence with the BiB. Tell him this face to face and tell him that you'll carry on until your bill is paid. Any bets on how many bangers you'd need?

Why can't you remove the clamp? Surely if you insist that the clamp is a component of your car and therefore your property the onus is on everyone else to prove that it isn't yours?


There's another way. Never park in a space with a clamping sign anywhere near it unless you are clearly displaying a correct ticket/residents card/etc. I do this. Worked so far.