Motorists face new 'Big Brother' technology
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Found the galileo bit. EU at it again and spouting off about saftey. Also something about integrating gps with a beasty called "Advanced Driver Assistance Systems" Googled that and its a bit worrying.
Galileo link
My concern would be if the EU wants it then it will happen?
Anotherlink for testing in progress.
>> Edited by jmorgan on Sunday 21st December 17:09
Galileo link
My concern would be if the EU wants it then it will happen?
Anotherlink for testing in progress.
>> Edited by jmorgan on Sunday 21st December 17:09
jmorgan said:
Also what's happening to the Galileo project, the European GPS system? That might used instead of the US one?
The first satellites have already gone as far as I am aware. Nothing to be useable for some time, but the last time I spoke to someone that knows, they were saying that late 2004 will start to see the VERY limited trials. They were forecasting that it will be 100% live for 2008 - but at this rate it will be closer to 2005 for principle countries for the EU (France, UK, German etc) and the rest by 2006....
BUT - it is a developed version of GPS. It offers the accuracy that you dont get with GPS with more advanced features. However, its NOT compatible and probably wont be. Some of the latest generation high-end GPS devices coming out are said to be compatible, but when was the last time that you saw a pan-EU project that didnt change...?
What annoys me about this technocrap is the millins of £££s spent on a load of nerds eavaluating a project that is going to be impractical anyway.
The government is comprised of to$$ers, but why oh why can't we have a 'minister for commensense'?
I suppose thats a question that anyone with commonsense wouldn't have asked anyway....
The whole EU and UK is up it's own ar$e I'm afraid.
The government is comprised of to$$ers, but why oh why can't we have a 'minister for commensense'?
I suppose thats a question that anyone with commonsense wouldn't have asked anyway....
The whole EU and UK is up it's own ar$e I'm afraid.
andygo said:'Common sense' is anything BUT common! Especially among politicians - Streaky
What annoys me about this technocrap is the millins of £££s spent on a load of nerds eavaluating a project that is going to be impractical anyway.
The government is comprised of to$$ers, but why oh why can't we have a 'minister for commensense'?
I suppose thats a question that anyone with commonsense wouldn't have asked anyway....
The whole EU and UK is up it's own ar$e I'm afraid.
Winnebago Nut said:
Motorists face new 'Big Brother' technology
Another link is to technology which would stop cars going above certain speed limits - either a fixed maximum such as 70mph, or varying according to the local limit.
The system could even be programmed to reduce speeds below the limit in bad weather or when school children were expected to be about
Which is why, IMHO, this is another scare story that will come to nothing, and the reason is quite simple:
No speeding, no money in it for the Government ...
Got it!!! the Governments plan is to make all motorists criminals, and as such we will all then have to give our fingerprints to the authorities as we will have no choice, these will then be stored on their database and on our compulosy ID cards
they will then know every move we ever make and everything about us all
remember the film Logans Run?
they will then know every move we ever make and everything about us all
remember the film Logans Run?
jmorgan said:
Looking through the various sites involved with galileo and the fact they are promoting this as a safety feature and experimenting with it does make me wonder when not if. Or am I paranoid?
Yeah cos it gets attention, but the whole project is partly to have a highly accurate GPS v2 system. But more importantly it is to remove the complete dependancy that "we" have on the US system. The only way they can get funding to put a whole load of satellites into the sky is to make it multi-application. However, the primary and single largest user of the system will be route-finding and absolute location.....
This thing is costing billions remember.
pbrettle said:
Looking through the various sites involved with galileo and the fact they are promoting this as a safety feature and experimenting with it does make me wonder when not if. Or am I paranoid?
Yeah cos it gets attention, but the whole project is partly to have a highly accurate GPS v2 system. But more importantly it is to remove the complete dependancy that "we" have on the US system. The only way they can get funding to put a whole load of satellites into the sky is to make it multi-application. However, the primary and single largest user of the system will be route-finding and absolute location.....
This thing is costing billions remember.
Okay, several breaths and I am calm again. Interesting site though and during a google session it threw up a few US "not happy with it" bits.
The Wiz said:
Okay so you can stop new cars .... what about older ones with no electronics. Or do we simply ban them?
The Wiz has the right idea, we all buy old E-types, etc. Then again it would not surprise me if they are looking at ways to take old cars off the road.
All joking aside, using lorry spped limiters as a shining example is not a good one.
These things cause the drivers to take huge gambles in the game of Can I, Can't I get past in the next 2 miles. As well as being one of the major causes of congestion, particulalry on motorways. I've lost count of the number of times I've been stuck behing dueling truck (head to head at 65) on the M54, a really crappy two lane motorway between the shineing starts of Birmingham and Telford.
I think your all being over reactionary ( a bit )
police tailing a stolen car for hours isnt acceptable. point a "stopper" at the car, and it slowly comes to a stop, without hours of wreckless driving, costly helicopters, or risk of life.
That sound like a good thing to me.
But the cynic says, this will egt accepted by the mr average, and gives the gov a back door to install satellite tracking speed control into everyones car..
as for old cars without electic accelerators, think a little harder will you? they will eventually all be repalaced as they age and fail, not all, but the %age switch to modern methods is going to be plenty high enough within 5 years..
police tailing a stolen car for hours isnt acceptable. point a "stopper" at the car, and it slowly comes to a stop, without hours of wreckless driving, costly helicopters, or risk of life.
That sound like a good thing to me.
But the cynic says, this will egt accepted by the mr average, and gives the gov a back door to install satellite tracking speed control into everyones car..
as for old cars without electic accelerators, think a little harder will you? they will eventually all be repalaced as they age and fail, not all, but the %age switch to modern methods is going to be plenty high enough within 5 years..
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