smoking weed at home?

[Menguin]

To be fair though, if the model tenants are growing loads of weed, they still pay their rent on time and voice no complaints! Go round and check it out, so long as the interior of the house is in a good state of repair I vote to kick council tenants out!

[Colonial]

Just change the lease when the time comes to renew to ban smoking inside. Simple.

It's weed. Nothing major.

[Mondeohdear]

thinfourth2 said:

Or you could just chuck the dole claiming tennant out

Personally i would file their complaint under ignore

The problem with that is then, if they get arsey, they can sue the OP and bring up the fact that they complained about an illegal activity going on next door and were evicted for their troubles - KERCHING!!!

[Derek Smith]

You do not seem to be on all that friendly terms with your complaining tenant. This puts you in a difficult position. You have been told that one of your premises is being used for the consumption of controlled drugs. This has, in one swoop, negated your defence to allowing, as Dibble link.

You now have obligations as the owner/person responsible for the premises. The law, especially with the amount of case law, is complex and I would suggest that a visit to a lawyer might be worthwhile.

I know what I would do but that might not suit your situation.

Your complaining tenant has a hold over you. He might well believe you are committing an offence and has the option of telling the police. There is that most damming of riders: ‘I told the landlord but he said they were good tenants.’

[Monkeylegend]

You shouldn't allow your views as to the relative merits of your tenants cloud your judgement. If you are happy for tenants to smoke weed in your premises and are prepared to accept the possible ramifications, then do nothing. If it is something you don't want to happen in your property, and you are not prepared to compromise yourself in regards to the possible legal issues, it needs to be stopped.

You can always find new tenants either way if it comes to that.

It's down to your own moral code and views on drugs.

[thinfourth2]

Mondeohdear said:

thinfourth2 said:

Or you could just chuck the dole claiming tennant out

Personally i would file their complaint under ignore

The problem with that is then, if they get arsey, they can sue the OP and bring up the fact that they complained about an illegal activity going on next door and were evicted for their troubles - KERCHING!!!

No they were evicted for not paying the rent

[Mondeohdear]

thinfourth2 said:

Mondeohdear said:

thinfourth2 said:

Or you could just chuck the dole claiming tennant out

Personally i would file their complaint under ignore

The problem with that is then, if they get arsey, they can sue the OP and bring up the fact that they complained about an illegal activity going on next door and were evicted for their troubles - KERCHING!!!

No they were evicted for not paying the rent

I know that, you know that, the whole world knows that but they could still play the victim card. They reported criminal activity to their evil landlord, even withholding their rent money to force him to take action against the druggy neighbours in his other property.

[andy_s]

Objectively, speak to the hop-heads, discharge your responsibilities as owner. They should become more circumspect/discret re smells and the annoyance to the other party should then be taken care of.

Personaly I'd peg the complainant as a Victor Meldrew who's never going to be happy about anything and put on my Jason hockey mask and start up the chainsaw...

[Robert060379]

andy_s said:

Objectively, speak to the hop-heads, discharge your responsibilities as owner. They should become more circumspect/discret re smells and the annoyance to the other party should then be taken care of.

Personaly I'd peg the complainant as a Victor Meldrew who's never going to be happy about anything and put on my Jason hockey mask and start up the chainsaw...

Better still, pop round for a chat. Ask to use the loo and stash a key of brown in the cistern and make an anonomous call the the Bib tipping them off. No more annoying neighbours for five to ten years.

[Oakey]

Maybe the 'council' tenants are actually up to some nefarious activity and are worried that the 'model' tenants activites will bring the heat on to them!

[TheJ]

Robert060379 said:

Better still, pop round for a chat. Ask to use the loo and stash a key of brown in the cistern and make an anonomous call the the Bib tipping them off. No more annoying neighbours for five to ten years.

Bit of a pricey approach!

[sadako]

Do a visit of model tenants, if the house is in good shape just say in a sarcastic tone that for legal reasons you have to advise them that you don't permit illegal stuff nudge nudge wink wink so if the scrote tenant makes something of it you can say "Well I didn't have any proof as the house was clean on inspection but to be on the safe side I told them to stop." ergo you are not allowing illegal activities on your property, the model tenants will know the scrote complained and st on his rice crisies as soon as you are gone and you can watch them argue from a safe distance for your own entertainment. Win-win.

[hairykrishna]

Just give your model tenants a bell. Tell them that the neighbour has complained that his kitchen smells of weed in the morning and that he's blaming them. Give them the nod that if he's complaining to you he might complain to others. I'm sure they'll sort it out.

[horton]

Mg6b said:

If your complainant can smell it strongly, I suggest you do an inventory visit to check stuff there.
Model tennants have been known to have ripped the interior of the house out to construct a cannabis factory causing tens of thousands of pounds damage.

Model cannabis factory tennants usually pay the rent on time and are no trouble whatsover because they don't want to attract attention that might uncover their nefarious activities and cause them a financila loss of both equipment and crops!

If your tennants in the 'odious' property pay by cash, I would get round there double quick!

what an idiot.

If you wished to grow marijuana at home, you would not need to rip out the interior of the house to grow it.
As a commercial enterprise you could have a very very good income from the amount grown in one small bedroom, however without major air filtration systems the entire street would smell it.

The difference in smell between someone either smoking a few joints a day/having a couple of plants and the smell from a commercial growing setup that requires ripping out the interior is huge.

Considering how much money is involved in a large scale growing operation, you would have enough money to rent a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere, rather than a flat with nosey neighbours.

[fluffnik]

Mg6b said:

If your complainant can smell it strongly, I suggest you do an inventory visit to check stuff there.
Model tennants have been known to have ripped the interior of the house out to construct a cannabis factory causing tens of thousands of pounds damage.

Model cannabis factory tennants usually pay the rent on time and are no trouble whatsover because they don't want to attract attention that might uncover their nefarious activities and cause them a financila loss of both equipment and crops!

If your tennants in the 'odious' property pay by cash, I would get round there double quick!

Yet another problem that exists only due to the counter-productive and oppressive prohibition laws.

A regulated legal trade would be better for everyone.

...except gangsters and redundant drug squad cops.

[andy_s]

counter-productive laws + redundant drug squad cops = new anti-terror task force.

[philthy]

Ring your models tenants, to let them know there has been an allegation.
You would like to visit them to check for yourself. Ask them when it would be "convenient" for you to call round. As a landlord, you wouldn't want to be noseying round in there drawers or wardrobes, a simple walk round will satisfy you that they are not growing. You can then stand in court if necessary, and tell the truth that you heard the complaint, acted on it, and found no cause for concern.
Remind your model tenants, with a wink, that as a landlord you couldn't possibly allow etc etc. They have probably signed to that effect on the tenancy agreement.

Getting rid of the complainer, will be a lot more difficult I'm sure. I would suggest, if you are serious about evicting them, you take advice, and cover your arse every step of the way. The fact that they are late with the rent, wouldn't be enough to get rid of them IMHO?
Why not just serve notice that you wish to evict at the end of the tenancy agreement, however long that is ?

[Distant]

I'd write a formal letter to the model tenants explaining that complaints have been made and reminding them of the terms of tenancy - illegal drugs are prohibited by your tenancy agreement, aren't they? Hand deliver the letter with a smile and a wink, explain what good tenants they are and you don't want to loose them but have to be seen to be doing something.

[rb5230]

Menguin said:

To be fair though, if the model tenants are growing loads of weed, they still pay their rent on time and voice no complaints! Go round and check it out, so long as the interior of the house is in a good state of repair I vote to kick council tenants out!

+1

because they smoke weed and pay on time it does not mean they have ripped out the inside of the property.

millions of people in britain smoke it and still lead a perfectly normal life.

if you told the police people were smoking weed in there they would not do anything anyway.

would the council tennant complain if she was smelling tobacco every day or maybe a curry aroma? probably because they have nothing better to do and no job.

[Frix]

horton said:

Mg6b said:

If your complainant can smell it strongly, I suggest you do an inventory visit to check stuff there.
Model tennants have been known to have ripped the interior of the house out to construct a cannabis factory causing tens of thousands of pounds damage.

Model cannabis factory tennants usually pay the rent on time and are no trouble whatsover because they don't want to attract attention that might uncover their nefarious activities and cause them a financila loss of both equipment and crops!

If your tennants in the 'odious' property pay by cash, I would get round there double quick!

what an idiot.

If you wished to grow marijuana at home, you would not need to rip out the interior of the house to grow it.
As a commercial enterprise you could have a very very good income from the amount grown in one small bedroom, however without major air filtration systems the entire street would smell it.

The difference in smell between someone either smoking a few joints a day/having a couple of plants and the smell from a commercial growing setup that requires ripping out the interior is huge.

Considering how much money is involved in a large scale growing operation, you would have enough money to rent a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere, rather than a flat with nosey neighbours.

I think this couple of posts demostrates which one of the posters has the experience of street cannabis factories.

For those of you that haven't - horton is also in your camp.

OP - nice friendly visit to make sure everyone knows where they stand. If you have driven past the place recently and it had snow on the roof like everyone else then it probably isn't a factory. Personal would still land you in the doo-doo though if it is permitted by you.