Oh goody, I've got myself a section 59.
Discussion
saaby93 said:
skwdenyer said:
Why? Democracy implies that, if the majority are happy with decreased road safety, they may have decreased road safety. There is a balance to be struck, and it doesn't have to converge to a point of greatest safety.
I'm trying to think of a parallel where the majority would vote to do something more dangerous than before, which could adversly affect the minority.Luckily this isnt the case here
rypt said:
saaby93 said:
skwdenyer said:
Why? Democracy implies that, if the majority are happy with decreased road safety, they may have decreased road safety. There is a balance to be struck, and it doesn't have to converge to a point of greatest safety.
I'm trying to think of a parallel where the majority would vote to do something more dangerous than before, which could adversly affect the minority.Luckily this isnt the case here
Seeing as this topic has died down now (not like a ph topic to go miles o/t now is it) I thought I'd let you guys know a bit more.
Just over a week after I sent the letter I received a reply from the Chief constable. To his credit he was most apologetic, saying, 'having reviewed the notes made by the officer in question, it would appear he acted in a unprofessional manner' and 'section 59 warnings are to be used if the vehicle is being driven in a manner likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. The officer noted that you provided proof that the car was stationary and unattended at the time of the alleged incident therefore a section 59 warning should not have been issued, and in this case It will be removed from both your personal and vehicles records'.
'South wales police have a good relationship with motor sport organisations in the area and are keen to support events and competitors blah blah blah ad nauseam'
So there we are. Another numpty officer made to look stupid by his CC.
Now all thats left is to find out where he lives and kick his back doors in, or however the saying goes
Just over a week after I sent the letter I received a reply from the Chief constable. To his credit he was most apologetic, saying, 'having reviewed the notes made by the officer in question, it would appear he acted in a unprofessional manner' and 'section 59 warnings are to be used if the vehicle is being driven in a manner likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. The officer noted that you provided proof that the car was stationary and unattended at the time of the alleged incident therefore a section 59 warning should not have been issued, and in this case It will be removed from both your personal and vehicles records'.
'South wales police have a good relationship with motor sport organisations in the area and are keen to support events and competitors blah blah blah ad nauseam'
So there we are. Another numpty officer made to look stupid by his CC.
Now all thats left is to find out where he lives and kick his back doors in, or however the saying goes
gopher44 said:
Seeing as this topic has died down now (not like a ph topic to go miles o/t now is it) I thought I'd let you guys know a bit more.
Just over a week after I sent the letter I received a reply from the Chief constable. To his credit he was most apologetic, saying, 'having reviewed the notes made by the officer in question, it would appear he acted in a unprofessional manner' and 'section 59 warnings are to be used if the vehicle is being driven in a manner likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. The officer noted that you provided proof that the car was stationary and unattended at the time of the alleged incident therefore a section 59 warning should not have been issued, and in this case It will be removed from both your personal and vehicles records'.
'South wales police have a good relationship with motor sport organisations in the area and are keen to support events and competitors blah blah blah ad nauseam'
So there we are. Another numpty officer made to look stupid by his CC.
Now all thats left is to find out where he lives and kick his back doors in, or however the saying goes
Well doneJust over a week after I sent the letter I received a reply from the Chief constable. To his credit he was most apologetic, saying, 'having reviewed the notes made by the officer in question, it would appear he acted in a unprofessional manner' and 'section 59 warnings are to be used if the vehicle is being driven in a manner likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. The officer noted that you provided proof that the car was stationary and unattended at the time of the alleged incident therefore a section 59 warning should not have been issued, and in this case It will be removed from both your personal and vehicles records'.
'South wales police have a good relationship with motor sport organisations in the area and are keen to support events and competitors blah blah blah ad nauseam'
So there we are. Another numpty officer made to look stupid by his CC.
Now all thats left is to find out where he lives and kick his back doors in, or however the saying goes
gopher44 said:
Seeing as this topic has died down now (not like a ph topic to go miles o/t now is it) I thought I'd let you guys know a bit more.
Just over a week after I sent the letter I received a reply from the Chief constable. To his credit he was most apologetic, saying, 'having reviewed the notes made by the officer in question, it would appear he acted in a unprofessional manner' and 'section 59 warnings are to be used if the vehicle is being driven in a manner likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. The officer noted that you provided proof that the car was stationary and unattended at the time of the alleged incident therefore a section 59 warning should not have been issued, and in this case It will be removed from both your personal and vehicles records'.
'South wales police have a good relationship with motor sport organisations in the area and are keen to support events and competitors blah blah blah ad nauseam'
So there we are. Another numpty officer made to look stupid by his CC.
Now all thats left is to find out where he lives and kick his back doors in, or however the saying goes
Glad to hear it was all sorted out for you. This thread will probably go on another 30 pages now Just over a week after I sent the letter I received a reply from the Chief constable. To his credit he was most apologetic, saying, 'having reviewed the notes made by the officer in question, it would appear he acted in a unprofessional manner' and 'section 59 warnings are to be used if the vehicle is being driven in a manner likely to cause alarm, distress or annoyance. The officer noted that you provided proof that the car was stationary and unattended at the time of the alleged incident therefore a section 59 warning should not have been issued, and in this case It will be removed from both your personal and vehicles records'.
'South wales police have a good relationship with motor sport organisations in the area and are keen to support events and competitors blah blah blah ad nauseam'
So there we are. Another numpty officer made to look stupid by his CC.
Now all thats left is to find out where he lives and kick his back doors in, or however the saying goes
^Slider^ said:
rypt said:
^Slider^ said:
IF YOU FIT IT TO MAKE IT LOUDER then i think that offence is committed.
Loudness is often a by-product of how good an exhaust is - and police never bother to find out if the exhaust is loud because it is loud, or if it is loud because it is good.As i keep saying if you fit it and it makes it louder then i think the offence is committed. The law doesnt say make it louder unless its a good loud.
I am now going to stop feeding the troll, which is exactly what you did last time you were here.
Please actually read what is posted.
The original system was not altered at all just replaced/ upgraded to better materials and better for performance it just happens to be a bit louder.
voyds9 said:
The real kicker is a non standard exhaust may fall foul of section 59, whereas a louder standard exhaust may not, ie a modded mini get 'done' but a stock Ferrari is ok even though significantly louder
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