New Stealth Car: What systems to fit?
Discussion
OK. I have finally "given in" and, on Friday, will pick up my new "Stealth" car. A third car. A boggo vehicle for soaking up winter miles, trips to the dump, leaving in airport car parks, ferrying rellies around - that sort of thing.
My automotive banger of choice? A Green Vauxhall Vectra LS 2.2 Estate. Two years old, only 30,000 miles, FVSH, and a bargain.
So. I'll be doing a LOT of business miles in this thing. Going to places I don't know, relying on the SatNav and so on.
Now PHers who know me will understand I'm not a nutter behind the wheel, respect speed limits (at least in spirit!) and am reasonably observant (Advanced Test Pass). I shouldn't cop (any more) points on my licence - in theory.
Except all it takes is an honest mistake or a motorway campaign and I'm three points up - insurance on all three cars gets yet worse and its all going to cost thousands over the five years it takes for the points to drop off my licence.
So I am seriously considering fitting the full range of electronic countermeasures to this vehicle - as well as continuing my generally law-abiding and observant driving practices.
So what should I fit?
Current thoughts are:
LRC100 Laser Jammer.
Morpheous Road Pilot.
Some radar detector...
Go on. Lets spec the ultimate suite of defensive systems.
"Shields up!"
My automotive banger of choice? A Green Vauxhall Vectra LS 2.2 Estate. Two years old, only 30,000 miles, FVSH, and a bargain.
So. I'll be doing a LOT of business miles in this thing. Going to places I don't know, relying on the SatNav and so on.
Now PHers who know me will understand I'm not a nutter behind the wheel, respect speed limits (at least in spirit!) and am reasonably observant (Advanced Test Pass). I shouldn't cop (any more) points on my licence - in theory.
Except all it takes is an honest mistake or a motorway campaign and I'm three points up - insurance on all three cars gets yet worse and its all going to cost thousands over the five years it takes for the points to drop off my licence.
So I am seriously considering fitting the full range of electronic countermeasures to this vehicle - as well as continuing my generally law-abiding and observant driving practices.
So what should I fit?
Current thoughts are:
LRC100 Laser Jammer.
Morpheous Road Pilot.
Some radar detector...
Go on. Lets spec the ultimate suite of defensive systems.
"Shields up!"
Dwight VanDriver said:
Cheap solution to your problems Don.
An inverted drawing pin glued to the inside sole of your right shoe at the point where the ball of the foot fits.
The harder the pedal is pressed the more pain but not as bad as loss off cash, points or Licence?
(in jest of course)
DVD
But that would be equally as painfull when try to slow down by braking!
Origin B2 and LRC100 (with connection lead) combo offer
www.gpsdetectors.co.uk/origin_b2.htm
First I have heard of the LRC100. is it any good?
www.gpsdetectors.co.uk/origin_b2.htm
First I have heard of the LRC100. is it any good?
DustyC said:
Cheap solution to your problems Don.
An inverted drawing pin glued to the inside sole of your right shoe at the point where the ball of the foot fits.
The harder the pedal is pressed the more pain but not as bad as loss off cash, points or Licence?
(in jest of course)
DVD
But that would be equally as painfull when try to slow down by braking!
Means you could practise left foot breaking though!
Along with a jammer & GPS system........
Remove the reflective backing from your no plates, just heat em up in hot water first. Then replace with light-grey & suitable yellow paint. Cuts down the lasers target range by quite a margin. Allegedly. This is very noticeable if you try it with one of those laser pointers, try it at night on normal number plates, it lights up from MILES away as opposed to the paintwork.
Looks standard & is hardly noticeable if at all. Of course this is only suitable for track use & should not be done for road use.
Remove the reflective backing from your no plates, just heat em up in hot water first. Then replace with light-grey & suitable yellow paint. Cuts down the lasers target range by quite a margin. Allegedly. This is very noticeable if you try it with one of those laser pointers, try it at night on normal number plates, it lights up from MILES away as opposed to the paintwork.
Looks standard & is hardly noticeable if at all. Of course this is only suitable for track use & should not be done for road use.
My 2003 Z06 Corvette!
I took the car to Trax at Silverstone last year and did the 0-60 run. The 1st three times I got no time 'cos the laser that they fire could not get a fix on my car (either because of the yellow paint or the polyeurothane rear construction).
I have not tried this with a police laser, but if one laser cannot get a speed fix on my car who is to say another system will work any better?
BTW have you thought of buying some B1 bomber stealth paint to paint the back of the car?
I took the car to Trax at Silverstone last year and did the 0-60 run. The 1st three times I got no time 'cos the laser that they fire could not get a fix on my car (either because of the yellow paint or the polyeurothane rear construction).
I have not tried this with a police laser, but if one laser cannot get a speed fix on my car who is to say another system will work any better?
BTW have you thought of buying some B1 bomber stealth paint to paint the back of the car?
Problem with SatNav is that it runs on GPS and can be tracked by anyone who cares to tap in.
Perhaps the ultimate stealth technology in this case is an A-Z!
I'm surprised no-one's come up with a system whereby you plan your route on a computer program, feed it into a disk and you can forward and reverse your own directional instructions to yourself as you do them. That coupled with traffic-seeking radio and a scamera detector (and a switched-off phone) would make for the ultimate stealth car!
>> Edited by v8thunder on Wednesday 11th February 14:13
Perhaps the ultimate stealth technology in this case is an A-Z!
I'm surprised no-one's come up with a system whereby you plan your route on a computer program, feed it into a disk and you can forward and reverse your own directional instructions to yourself as you do them. That coupled with traffic-seeking radio and a scamera detector (and a switched-off phone) would make for the ultimate stealth car!
>> Edited by v8thunder on Wednesday 11th February 14:13
Got an Origin b2, which is great and it very kindly told me when I'd been talivanned (is that the laser?)
Since jammers are illegal and I don't like Dwight's idea of a drawing pin, how about string from your right toe to one of your b***ocks, carefully measured so that, at a pre-selected revs figure, it brings tears to your eyes!
Second thoughts - go for the jammer if you must, but be aware of the implications of being stopped...
Since jammers are illegal and I don't like Dwight's idea of a drawing pin, how about string from your right toe to one of your b***ocks, carefully measured so that, at a pre-selected revs figure, it brings tears to your eyes!
Second thoughts - go for the jammer if you must, but be aware of the implications of being stopped...
v8thunder said:Not quite.
Problem with SatNav is that it runs on GPS and can be tracked by anyone who cares to tap in.
SatNav works by receiving a GPS signal and then works with a builtin map to pin-point your location and work out directions. They have no ability to transmit a signal to any other device (unless you get a bluetooth or WAP enabled phone type one). So they cannot be used to track you.
vetteheadracer said:
My 2003 Z06 Corvette!
I took the car to Trax at Silverstone last year and did the 0-60 run. The 1st three times I got no time 'cos the laser that they fire could not get a fix on my car (either because of the yellow paint or the polyeurothane rear construction).
I have not tried this with a police laser, but if one laser cannot get a speed fix on my car who is to say another system will work any better?
BTW have you thought of buying some B1 bomber stealth paint to paint the back of the car?
Rather interesting, I assume this is because your car has little vertical front area, any light bounces off at a tangent, though some will but this really only effects the range. Where is your number plate? is it a normal one & refelctive? I've heard some cars are very difficult to target.
I spoke to some Dorset traffic BIB's a while back when they had a Mobile Gatso up our road. They said cars with HID type headlights on don't help matters when using laser(from their point of view) they had trouble with their Omega elite's when they did speed check runs if the lights were on!.
cptsideways said:
Rather interesting, I assume this is because your car has little vertical front area, any light bounces off at a tangent, though some will but this really only effects the range. Where is your number plate? is it a normal one & refelctive? I've heard some cars are very difficult to target.
Along a similar line, what would happen if you mounted your num plate angled slightly downward? Would this direct the reflected laser into the road, and reduce the range? Is it a legal requirement to have the plate flat?
i believe it is a legal reqirement that the plate is mounted vertical, and i believe the standard plates are "retroflective", so the laser would still work up to a fair angle.
dont know how the law stands on those e-types that had the front numbers just stuck on a curved bonnet, i was thinking of this for my car, any experts care to comment?
dont know how the law stands on those e-types that had the front numbers just stuck on a curved bonnet, i was thinking of this for my car, any experts care to comment?
Davel said:
Since jammers are illegal
I thought that the LRC100 was a garage door opener?
Its certainly advertised as such. So long as one has a switch so it can be turned off then it would only be on whilst driving accidentally. And is the device itself illegal? I thought not. I believe madcop, tonyrec and others have mentioned that there may be an offence if it is used to prevent a police officer from carrying out his duty, or perhaps even attempting to pervert the course of justice...either of these offences incur unpleasant penalties...
And didn't some idiot near Cardiff parade up and down the motorway whilst officers attempted to get a speed reading showing off the fact that they couldn't? Eventually they got annoyed and booked him for something....rightly...just asking for trouble IIRC.
So here's a question for our BiBs.
Lets say you are manning a laser. Lets say you target a car and the gun refuses to register a reading. You scratch your head, point it at the car again and get a reading of 68mph. (The LRC does 5 seconds of jamming then switches off..beeping loudly the whole time..you have to slow down immediately.)
Are you suspicious? Or does this happen often enough that you'd ignore it and point the device at the next car?
>> Edited by Don on Wednesday 11th February 16:35
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