Car parking -front over hanging the end of the bay

Car parking -front over hanging the end of the bay

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rodney59

Original Poster:

424 posts

249 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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The last couple of days were I have parked on the street at the end of a line of cars in a marked bay of 7 cars parallel to the road. (There are no bay markings to separate the spaces). The front of my car has over hung the end marking of bay. The tyres are in the bay- just. Can I get a ticket, have I parked legally?

forever_driving

1,869 posts

251 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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As long as your wheels are in the bay, you'll be fine.

>> Edited by forever_driving on Friday 13th February 10:08

andrew54

109 posts

244 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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What parking restriction is there OUTSIDE the marked bay?

rodney59

Original Poster:

424 posts

249 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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andrew54 said:
What parking restriction is there OUTSIDE the marked bay?

Single yellow (No parking 8am to 6pm)

streaky

19,311 posts

250 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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I believe that the whole of the vehicle must be within the marked bay - Streaky

rodney59

Original Poster:

424 posts

249 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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streaky said:
I believe that the whole of the vehicle must be within the marked bay - Streaky

Oops...
Can't move it until I get back home tonight... hope like yesterday its ok.

big err

8 posts

243 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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Most traffic regulation orders and the associated stuff out of the signing regs refers to any part of the vehicle overhanging the restricted area.

As an extreme example you can get HGV's with a rear over hang in excess of 2m. If they park with the wheels in the bay, they could still be obstructing an adjacent access by 2m!

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

246 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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and knowing how hot them traffic wardens are I would watch out! Don't forget your 6 inch rule to measure the distance from the kerb!

james_j

3,996 posts

256 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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xxxxxxrich said:
and knowing how hot them traffic wardens are I would watch out! Don't forget your 6 inch rule to measure the distance from the kerb!


Perhaps the council should paint measurements out from the kerb. Only joking.

puggit

48,479 posts

249 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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I'm with forever driving - I always understood it was the wheels that had to be entirely within the marked bay.

Check www.parkingticket.co.uk for the answer

I couldn't find it!

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

245 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Methinks you will have to look at what is in the Order and how it describes the 7 vehicle long single bay.

Having looked at a similar Order is defines Bay as
area of parking place which is provided for the leaving of a vehicle and indicated by markings on the surface of the parking place.

It goes on to say if a vehicle is parked other than WHOLELY in a parking bay an excess charge will be levied.

DVD

mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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What a sad country this is becoming........

rodney59

Original Poster:

424 posts

249 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:

Having looked at a similar Order is defines Bay as
area of parking place which is provided for the leaving of a vehicle and indicated by markings on the surface of the parking place.

It goes on to say if a vehicle is parked other than WHOLELY in a parking bay an excess charge will be levied.
DVD

Where would I find such as Order - Local Council? Are they not all the same?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

245 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Local Authority or local Plod shop (if you can find one open).

DVD

David Garner

2 posts

245 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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Look at the Parking Restriction Order, copy should be with Traffic Engineering section of local authority. Look carefully at the description of the dimensions from a fixed point (like road signs) which will define exactly where the end or start of the yellow lines should begin. The authority regularly get it wrong, take your tape measure, if they have get it wrong you appeal the order. They then dont have a leg to stand on. Ex Bucks County Traffic Eng.

scrutineer

36 posts

244 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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mojocvh said:
What a sad country this is becoming........


its been sad for a long time....just getting worse now!

woof

8,456 posts

278 months

Monday 16th February 2004
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puggit said:


Check www.parkingticket.co.uk for the answer


top site - nice design as well !

I'm disputing a ticket from August last year - sat in my car in Soho (engine running) - waiting for a g/f to come out of a bar - warden walks by - I tell him I'm picking someone up - a few minutes later "friend" comes out and off I go.

Few months later £100 parking fine turns up - going to adjucation now. Looks like I win coz the ticket wasn't handed to me our placed on the car.

Why doesn't Congestion Charge disputes work in this manner ? In fact I'll should start another thread on this.

If you dispute a Westminster Parking ticket - you write back to them saying why - it then either gets dismissed or goes to an adjucator hearing - which you can attend. Pretty fair I would say.

Now I'm disputing 2 congestion charges. One on grounds that their bloody website wasn't taking payments and kept timing out (it was by getting close to midnight) and after which you can't pay for the day b4. And the other was that I strayed into the zone round marble arch (without realizing) - came out of it immediately and I put it down to inappropriate signage.

Now in these cases you have to take your letter to a judge, barrister and have it witnessed by them !

Well that's like saying get it sign by a martian! Anyway I'm disputing both of those.