Shunt driver to keep license

Shunt driver to keep license

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Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/1016...

Common sense has prevailed it seems, and the driver of the lorry which pushed a Renault Clio along the road, wedged on his bumper has been allowed to keep his license.
Video of the event was posted on YouTube.
Apparently he could not smell the car!

BBC Report said:
A lorry driver who was shown on YouTube driving along a motorway with a car trapped in front of his cab has been told he can keep his licence.

The footage showed a Renault Clio being pushed at high speed along the A1(M), near Wetherby, Yorkshire, in January.

The lorry driver, John Tomlinson from Lancashire, appeared before North West Traffic Commissioner Beverley Bell.

She told him he could retain his LGV driving licence because he could not see, hear or smell the car.

The hearing was held at the Traffic Area Office in Warrington, Cheshire.

No charges

The video was captured on a mobile phone by a passenger in a passing car and has attracted more than half a million views since it was uploaded to YouTube last February.

Both drivers emerged without injury after the vehicles eventually came to a stop.

West Yorkshire Police investigated the incident but took no further action against Mr Tomlinson following advice from the Crown Prosecution Service.

Traffic commissioners are appointed by the Department of Transport to licence operators of Heavy Goods Vehicles, buses and coaches and take action against them; register local bus services and give vocational licences.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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not seen anything like that since yesterday smile
Driver thought he'd had a blowout until the car flirted off into the bridge smile

what's the offence again.
I read the girl said " i joined the motorway planning what i had to do that day"

i would have thought checking yours mirrors for other vehicles (not makeup) and surroundings as you drive along the motorway would have been better planning smile

Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

194 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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We used to work with Arclid, and since I saw the video I've asked a few drivers what their opinion is.

By the sounds of it, a surprisingly regular occurance as you cannot see the vehicle and with the grunt some of these trucks have you could well assume a brake has locked or a tyres burst!

EU_Foreigner

2,833 posts

226 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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If you assumed that, you would stop straight away rather then drive in the middle lane?

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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No mention of an intention to charge the Clio driver with DWDCA? confused

JJ

Vipers

32,886 posts

228 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Common sense prevails, but I dont understand the comment in the link to:-

"The slip road joins the [b]middle lane[b] of the motorway, so she was effectively undertaking the 44-tonne tanker, Mr Joyce said."

Typo or is there something I dont know??




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Mill Wheel

Original Poster:

6,149 posts

196 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Vipers said:
Common sense prevails, but I dont understand the comment in the link to:-

"The slip road joins the [b]middle lane[b] of the motorway, so she was effectively undertaking the 44-tonne tanker, Mr Joyce said."

Typo or is there something I dont know??




smile
I think it means that there are two lanes past the junction, then the slip road joins from the right, but continues on to form lane one. That is how the M6 works at Broughton near Preston. Often drivers already on the motorway continue for some distance before they realise that the slip road is in fact the new lane one, and consequently a few drivers on the "slip" who know the layout get annoyed and try to pass the slower lane two vehicle then have to pull out to pass something in lane one - pulling out in front, instead of waiting for them to pass by first - maybe that is what the traffic commissioner was implying?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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EU_Foreigner said:
If you assumed that, you would stop straight away rather then drive in the middle lane?
or head for the H/S. Pronto redface

Collecting a car travelling in the blind spot of a fully loaded truck. the sameish speed may feel like hitting a pot hole if even felt at all

carmonk

7,910 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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What about the woman who apparently failed to see 44 tons of wagon right next to her car?

7mike

3,010 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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His solicitor added: "This incident was, as they say, a freak of nature and purely accidental."

How un-PC! Brake! told us there was no such thing as traffic accidents.


GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Traffic Commissioners are usually extremely stern and difficult to win over. Im aware of a case where a driver had his HGV license revoked by a TC who saw him on her way to work. He was summonsed to appear before her and carpeted. Any HGV driver would go to any length reasonably possible to avoid a TC hearing.....

Tango13

8,438 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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I was at Herts Bikesafe this weekend and they had an artic rig that you could sit in to appreciate the blind spots. I've always been wary of HGVs but now having sat in one I can really see the problems the drivers have.

7mike

3,010 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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GC8 said:
Traffic Commissioners are usually extremely stern and difficult to win over. Im aware of a case where a driver had his HGV license revoked by a TC who saw him on her way to work. He was summonsed to appear before her and carpeted. Any HGV driver would go to any length reasonably possible to avoid a TC hearing.....
FFS he lost his licence just for being seen by a TC.yikes Must drive with a balaclava on then hehe

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Sorry: I missed out the most important part... She saw him talking on his mobile phone, as she was driving on her way to work.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

197 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Tango13 said:
I was at Herts Bikesafe this weekend and they had an artic rig that you could sit in to appreciate the blind spots. I've always been wary of HGVs but now having sat in one I can really see the problems the drivers have.
When I worked for Mercedes commercial vehicles on the 'Intro to Mercedes' type course we were let loose in a fully laden cab/trailer combo (on private land) which made me not only appreciate the blind spots, but the need to keep momentum up too. Getting 40+ Tons of st moving from a standstill is a bit of a ball ache.

streaky

19,311 posts

249 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Mill Wheel said:
Common sense has prevailed it seems, and the driver of the lorry which pushed a Renault Clio along the road, wedged on his bumper has been allowed to keep his license.

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Apparently he could not smell the car!
Presumably referring to the smell of burning rubber - Streaky

Mill Wheel

Original Poster:

6,149 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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streaky said:
Mill Wheel said:
Common sense has prevailed it seems, and the driver of the lorry which pushed a Renault Clio along the road, wedged on his bumper has been allowed to keep his license.

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Apparently he could not smell the car!
Presumably referring to the smell of burning rubber - Streaky
Probably not - wet rubber with no tread (sideways on) - the water will have been a good lubricant!

Jasandjules

69,904 posts

229 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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carmonk said:
What about the woman who apparently failed to see 44 tons of wagon right next to her car?
See, this is what gets my goat. Did the woman drive in front of the truck or did the truck change lanes? Because IF it's that she drove in front of the truck, why is she not being charged with undue care?

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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I can not beleive that you guys are sticking up for the trucker

speedchick

5,180 posts

222 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Lost soul said:
I can not beleive that you guys are sticking up for the trucker
Why? Please explain to me exactly what the trucker did wrong?