Shunt driver to keep license

[speedchick]

Lost soul said:

speedchick said:

Lost soul said:

Jasandjules said:

Lost soul said:

How the hell could he not have seen her ?

Go sit in the cab of a truck and then come back and ask that.......

FFS i know what its like to drive a truck and i still do not see how the mong trucker did not see or feel the car

You really are a 'tard aren't you?

Look Miss Principles i know what its like to be in the cab of a truck , the truck in question was not even that large and beleive it or not i am intitled to My opinion

Wow, sounds like you are getting a little rattled there, yea, you are entitled to your opinion, but people have explained why, there is even a pic either on this thread or the one in the news section showing the driver's line of sight. You seem to be the only one that thinks the driver either did it on purpose or is some sort of out of some sort of negligence. I do have to say that you do seem to be getting snappy with people, take a chill pill


ok so while I was typing this and working at the same time, the picture was posted.

Edited by speedchick on Thursday 27th May 19:27

[Digby]

Lost soul said:

If the trucker can not see feel or hear a ton of car stuck on the front of his truck he should not be allowed to drive

I would give up now.You are wrong, how you deal with that is up to you.

If you can't understand something as basic as why he wouldn't feel, see or hear it, then I suggest you give up drving, too.

[rewc]

Lost soul said:

If the trucker can not see feel or hear a ton of car stuck on the front of his truck he should not be allowed to drive

Not in the view of the person that mattered, or the CPS for that matter.

"The lorry driver, John Tomlinson from Lancashire, appeared before North West Traffic Commissioner Beverley Bell.

She told him he could retain his LGV driving licence because he could not see, hear or smell the car".

[Lost soul]

speedchick said:

Lost soul said:

speedchick said:

Lost soul said:

Jasandjules said:

Lost soul said:

How the hell could he not have seen her ?

Go sit in the cab of a truck and then come back and ask that.......

FFS i know what its like to drive a truck and i still do not see how the mong trucker did not see or feel the car

You really are a 'tard aren't you?

Look Miss Principles i know what its like to be in the cab of a truck , the truck in question was not even that large and beleive it or not i am intitled to My opinion

Wow, sounds like you are getting a little rattled there, yea, you are entitled to your opinion, but people have explained why, there is even a pic either on this thread or the one in the news section showing the driver's line of sight. You seem to be the only one that thinks the driver either did it on purpose or is some sort of out of some sort of negligence. I do have to say that you do seem to be getting snappy with people, take a chill pill


ok so while I was typing this and working at the same time, the picture was posted.

Edited by speedchick on Thursday 27th May 19:27

Not snappy at all and have not resorted to personal insults

[Jasandjules]

Lost soul said:

FFS i know what its like to drive a truck and i still do not see how the mong trucker did not see or feel the car

Really?

I mean, I've been in quite a lot of trucks in my time, yet I have never once been able to see 6" in front of the cab.

[saaby93]

Lost soul said:

saaby93 said:

lhd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivkzRf9fb3g
rhd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNTSSvOYiB0

Sure if the driver does not look he will hit an overtaking car

In this case from all accounts it was the car that moved across so the back hit the front corner of the truck.

[heebeegeetee]

Lost soul said:

If the trucker can not see feel or hear a ton of car stuck on the front of his truck he should not be allowed to drive

Which part of the report don't you understand?

It was accepted that it wasn't possible to see the car from where he was sat. It was accepted that he wouldn't feel the weight of the car. (How are you going to feel 1 ton when it can comfortably cruise at well over 40 tonnes?). There was nothing to smell.

Lost soul said:

Look Miss Principles i know what its like to be in the cab of a truck , the truck in question was not even that large and beleive it or not i am intitled to My opinion

It's a six axle truck, that's as big and heavy as they come without going into heavy haulage. It appears to be empty too going by the raised axle, so it's cruising at afraction of it's weight, car stuck to front or not.

What do you know about driving trucks, out of interest?

It seems that from the strength of a 45 sec clip of film on youtube you're saying all the experts who have examined the incident closely are wrong.

[Stubby Pete]

Nobody's mentioned the effect of having the governor (cruise control equiv) switched on. The engine may well have been working a bit harder but the driver wouldn't know.

(Any HGV drivers care to rip my theory to shreds?)

[Stubby Pete]

saaby93 said:

rhd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNTSSvOYiB0

A Mercedes crashing in a tunnel, the Daily Express will have a field day!!

[The Riddler]

Stubby Pete said:

Nobody's mentioned the effect of having the governor (cruise control equiv) switched on. The engine may well have been working a bit harder but the driver wouldn't know.

(Any HGV drivers care to rip my theory to shreds?)

Thats a fair and valid point.

[TonyRPH]

Having just skimmed through this thread, I don't think I saw any mention of momentum.

It appears to have been hinted at though.

So applying some simple physics...

30 tons (approx) of lorry moving at 50/60 mph, connecting with 1 ton of Clio...

No surprise the lorry driver didn't notice anything amiss...

Mr Maths (Smeggy) where are you??

[Nickyboy]

Lost soul said:

If the trucker can not see feel or hear a ton of car stuck on the front of his truck he should not be allowed to drive

I've seen drivers pull away with the trailer brakes still on & with all 6 wheels locked up. Thats 6 or 7 tons of metal being pulled like it isnt there so a 1 ton car will be like having a tin can on the front. Trucks like that have around 2000lb/ft of torque, and with your cruise control on and variation in effort will be controlled by the cruise so its not like he'd be having to put his foot down more. Tie a brick to your car and see how much extra effort you need to pull it. None.

[GC8]

Lost soul said:

If the trucker can not see feel or hear a ton of car stuck on the front of his truck he should not be allowed to drive

You really dont have even the slightest understanding do you? When you have no idea what youre talking about its best to listen to those who know more and learn, rather than persist in making the same ignorant arguement...

If the driver had been to blame then the TC would have revoked his licence in a flash. Justice may be soft now, but TCs are like Czars, and act accordingly.

[GC8]

Stubby Pete said:

Nobody's mentioned the effect of having the governor (cruise control equiv) switched on. The engine may well have been working a bit harder but the driver wouldn't know.

(Any HGV drivers care to rip my theory to shreds?)

I have an HGV licence, although Im not an HGV driver. I was once inadvertently overloaded by four tonnes; and 420bhp pulled this with no apparent strain - it was completely unnoticeable.