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Ayahuasca said:
Millions of dollars of the stuff gets washed up on the beach here fairly regularly.
Normally accompanied by a few bullet-ridden bodies, mind.
As as aside, I tried some Ayahuasca when I was in Peru a year or so ago. It was good fun - didn't vom as other folks were doing, but it manifested in other ways instead :PNormally accompanied by a few bullet-ridden bodies, mind.
Fittster said:
The drugs shown in that clip would appear to be alcoholic drinks.
I policed brighton for a few years - not on my own. Innocent passers by being injured by drunks was not unknown.I once had to run an ID parade for a woman who had been waiting in the taxi queue in East Street. A drunk smashed a bottle and rammed it in her face. A point of the glass went through her eyelid by the side of her nose, putting a cut alonside her nose but managing to avoid puncturing her eyeball. There was a scar running down from the middle of her forehead, through her eyebrow, across her eyelid, and under her cheek. She had been standing talking to her friend.
I tried to calm a drunk outside a nightclub. Everything seemed to be going well and then he got a bit excited. He threw a punch at me which just missed my face. He hit a lapped fence, his fist going through it. He then pulled his fist out through the wood with the splinters digging into his hand.
I had a drunk on the ground after he had attacked a woman. The 'wrong' woman according to him later. A case of mistaken identity 'cause he was drunk, he reckoned. I took him to the ground, face down, and held him arm up in a pain hold. He kept trying to pull away and I could feel the shoulder coming out of its socket. Odd sensation. I had to let him go - pulling an arm out of its socket is not one of the accepted restraint holds. He got up and ran at me. I did a leg trip and he went head first into a parked cab, smashing the o/s rear window with his head. There was no blood oddly enough.
He then came at me again, I did another trip, caught his arm and managed to take him to the floor with one arm up his back. Two other police officers were unable to get his other wrist in a position to handcuff him and we had to have the help of a bouncer.
Him safely andcuffed, I rolled away, knackered, and my two colleagues took the chap towards the police car. As one bent down to open the door he kicked out, tripping the other PC. He then tried to run at me and the other PC stamped on his calf, bringing him down.
My sergeant then turned up, fashionably late, dragged him into the car, put him face down on the back seat and sat on his legs. He demanded that the cabbie sit in the front passenger seat to ensure fair treatment as he'd been mouthing off about police violence.
By the time he got to the nick he was, in the opinion of the skipper, unconscious so he, and the cabbie, were taken to hospital where the doctor diagnosed a sever case of sleep. Test revealed that he was drunk.
Whilst there are dangers from over use of controlled drugs they are no worse than for alcohol.
I agree that in a perfect world we would not want to bring in another freely available cause for violence, but it is here already. Control is the edge.
Tonsko said:
Ayahuasca said:
Millions of dollars of the stuff gets washed up on the beach here fairly regularly.
Normally accompanied by a few bullet-ridden bodies, mind.
As as aside, I tried some Ayahuasca when I was in Peru a year or so ago. It was good fun - didn't vom as other folks were doing, but it manifested in other ways instead :PNormally accompanied by a few bullet-ridden bodies, mind.
Derek Smith said:
andy_s said:
I policed up in the North-East, you're spot on DS.
Odd though it seems, I miss it. Do you?grumbledoak said:
monthefish said:
From the 1 hour programme that the clip was taken from, yes.
Spill the beans, then, old chap. What programme?I don't want to judge the situation purely on the basis of her baseball hat.
Daily Mail report on the incident
ETA - you probably wouldn't be too wide of the mark if you were to judge her purely on the baseball cap - finding out more probably won't help your opinion of her, but the incident was quite shocking.
Edited by monthefish on Thursday 12th August 10:32
NoNeed said:
How much does a drug like cocain cost? I used to read alot of reports about people having a £1000 a day habit. How much would that buy?
average price in London is around £40 per gramme (for low quality stuff). Interestingly, it used to be much higher in the 1980s, but then again, the quality was much better.
Drug prices are fascinating when compared to the retail price index for other products. There was an interesting article written about it once (I forget by whom) called 'amphetamine economics'.
TTwiggy said:
NoNeed said:
How much does a drug like cocain cost? I used to read alot of reports about people having a £1000 a day habit. How much would that buy?
average price in London is around £40 per gramme (for low quality stuff). Interestingly, it used to be much higher in the 1980s, but then again, the quality was much better.
Drug prices are fascinating when compared to the retail price index for other products. There was an interesting article written about it once (I forget by whom) called 'amphetamine economics'.
NoNeed said:
TTwiggy said:
NoNeed said:
How much does a drug like cocain cost? I used to read alot of reports about people having a £1000 a day habit. How much would that buy?
average price in London is around £40 per gramme (for low quality stuff). Interestingly, it used to be much higher in the 1980s, but then again, the quality was much better.
Drug prices are fascinating when compared to the retail price index for other products. There was an interesting article written about it once (I forget by whom) called 'amphetamine economics'.
TTwiggy said:
NoNeed said:
TTwiggy said:
NoNeed said:
How much does a drug like cocain cost? I used to read alot of reports about people having a £1000 a day habit. How much would that buy?
average price in London is around £40 per gramme (for low quality stuff). Interestingly, it used to be much higher in the 1980s, but then again, the quality was much better.
Drug prices are fascinating when compared to the retail price index for other products. There was an interesting article written about it once (I forget by whom) called 'amphetamine economics'.
Hopefully we will follow the Portugese in thier drugs policy:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/16/dru...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/16/dru...
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