"Speed van nabs 100 in one hour"

[streaky]

tegwin said:

What I am unable to see are 30mph repeaters anywhere.... infact you could easily be conufsed into thinking that its a 40mph given the lack of street lighting and signs...So it is possible that all drivers thought they WERE within the limit!

I've just 'driven' the road on Street View. There are 30 repeaters on both sides, but driving Eastwards they are very widely spaced and there are none that I saw in the village itself. Of course, some might have disappeared since the G00gle car drove along there - Streaky

[rs1952]

tegwin said:

(I am sure the local paper reported it as 100 caught in 1 day)

I drive this road twice a day.... Its a wide open road with perfect visibility down it..

What I am unable to see are 30mph repeaters anywhere.... infact you could easily be conufsed into thinking that its a 40mph given the lack of street lighting and signs...So it is possible that all drivers thought they WERE within the limit!

For the first couple of weeks the camera was there, there were not even any speed camera "signs" up... this has been rectified with some plastic ones ..one at each end of the 30mph zone...

I dont understand how the camera managed to catch so many people... its in a fairly obvious position... provided you are awake you can see it and slow down should you be driving at a speed which is suitable for the conditions...

I did see one gentleman one morning getting frustrated with the car infront doing 20mph so he overtook passed the camera.... not a clever move IMHO!

If there is no street lighting then 30 repeaters should be in place. If they are not then the limit is invalid.

Edited by tegwin on Monday 14th June 11:39

Perhaps it might be an idea to send a letter to the local paper - a few people might be interested in the fact that there might be a few refunds due


Edited to correct formatting and note that Streaky has dealt with the issue! But what about the spacing? Still possible that the limit is invalid

Edited by rs1952 on Monday 14th June 12:01

[Strangely Brown]

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[saaby93]

You can find out what most people think appropriate there by asking for the traffic speeds

[henrycrun]

There is no requirement for 30mph repeaters. 30mph is the default.

[mudster]

Default is national speed limit. 30mph repeaters are required where there is no street lighting (as appears to be the case in this instance).

[henrycrun]

Oops, I stand corrected

[Johnnytheboy]

Robb F said:

Manks said:

One wonders what the net effect upon speeding is in that location relative to improved signage or perhaps automatic speed warning signs.

If your refering to those signs that display your speed to everyone, i believe they work better than cameras at slowing people down.

Makes you feel like people are judging you even if your only doing 31 as it starts flashing etc.

Fascinating thing is that if I approach these signs at a steady speed, the displayed speed is usually a very close match to my speedo reading, but lower than my GPS speed. Does that mean my speedo is right and my GPS is wrong? Or that the signs are set a little low?

[saaby93]

AFAIK they come up at a few mph below the limit to let you know what it is. There's no point letting you know after you've exceeded it. but whether youre doing 28mph or 58mph they still say the same. Theyre usually where the limit is too low

[Strangely Brown]

Johnnytheboy said:

Fascinating thing is that if I approach these signs at a steady speed, the displayed speed is usually a very close match to my speedo reading, but lower than my GPS speed. Does that mean my speedo is right and my GPS is wrong? Or that the signs are set a little low?

I read that as your GPS read is higher than your speedo read? Isn't that the wrong way round? That would mean that your speedo is reading under, and that is illegal. Have you changed your wheels/tyres or something?

[Johnnytheboy]

You've spotted my deliberate error...

GPS is of course LOWER than the other two. So my speedo and the sign will say 33 and my GPS will say 30.

[vonhosen]

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[eldar]

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[eccles]

It does make you wonder how the van operator gets to process a car just about every 40 seconds. Forms opinion of speed, targets car, zaps it, takes down it's details, then repeat, every 40 seconds! Bet he followed his 'guidelines' to the letter!

[bryan35]

what I can't understand is this...

If so many people are over the speed limit, (which is clearly extremely dangerous), then why doesn't the van do something about it there and then - ie, Slow down all the traffic by putting out cones etc, instead of posting off fines that arrive up to 2 weeks later?

That's if 'saving lives' is what it's all about of course.

[Mojocvh]

Frix said:

There are certain things that get overlooked in this argument:

1. Speeding is regularly a concern for local areas - the majority of the ones near me have identified it. This is as a result of consultation with residents of that area.

2. While point 1 sets the policing priorities for the area the enforcement of it should still be proportionate to the problem.

I know that the chap who is often asked to help out with speed enforcement and is responsible for the siting of camera vans for my area will not just stick a van somewhere unless the local officer has researched the problem (if in fact there is one) first.

While I do not seek to justify the indiscriminate placing of speed cameras everywhere - they are pretty visible and 100 in an hour would indicate to me that there genuinely is a problem.

YES!! the effing speed limit has been set artificially low to generate income!

[Nigel Worc's]

It is just typical of this areas speed limit setting criterea,

We have a dual carrageway shut down to one lane in each direction with a 50 mph limit, we have trunk roads de-classified so the limits can be lowered, we even have previously nsl duals now set to 50 mph.

We have another dual, nsl, the main A38 that most will have heard of, shut down to one lane on a bend.

We are now to get a bus lane on one of the city's main arterial routes, despite the fact nobody wants it, even the council admit nobody wants it, but the local anti christ, one Cllr Prodger, applied to London, got the money, now we are told we HAVE to have this bus lane !

I'm sure this ste is being repeated throughout the country

[Pigeon]

Nigel Worc's said:

It is just typical of this areas speed limit setting criterea,

We have a dual carrageway shut down to one lane in each direction with a 50 mph limit, we have trunk roads de-classified so the limits can be lowered, we even have previously nsl duals now set to 50 mph.

We have another dual, nsl, the main A38 that most will have heard of, shut down to one lane on a bend.

We are now to get a bus lane on one of the city's main arterial routes, despite the fact nobody wants it, even the council admit nobody wants it, but the local anti christ, one Cllr Prodger, applied to London, got the money, now we are told we HAVE to have this bus lane !

I'm sure this ste is being repeated throughout the country

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/8215591.Bus_priority_works_set_to_cause_delays_for_motorists/

Complete and utter fking waste of money, won't even benefit the buses as the road in question flows freely anyway. The only bottleneck on it is the single-file passage under the railway bridge at the bottom, which of course won't be changed. Prodger needs his arse kicked.

[streaky]

"Peak time" bus lanes might have something to commend then in some instances. 24-hour bus lanes should be condemned. There is on in Farnborough, Hampshire that has a bus along it roughly every 20 minutes ... with very few passengers from my occasional observations at varying times of the day. Complete waste of space ... both the bus lane and those who supported it in Council.

Streaky

[Johnnytheboy]

Nigel Worc's said:

We have a dual carrageway shut down to one lane in each direction with a 50 mph limit, we have trunk roads de-classified so the limits can be lowered, we even have previously nsl duals now set to 50 mph....

I'm sure this ste is being repeated throughout the country

You'd love Southampton, where all the inner city dual carriageways are 30 limited.

You haven't lived until you've done 30 on a dual carriagway past numerous Truvelos. It feels like walking speed.