Caught speeding - 125mph on A2 Kent!!!! Hellllp

Caught speeding - 125mph on A2 Kent!!!! Hellllp

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julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
It does happen. Depends on circumstance and the person stopped.

The fpn will be issued for excess speed. If contested then the full evidence is offered at court.

Officers on the ground are more generous in general as we accept that people who are over the limit are not criminals and we want them to feel fairly dealt with.

I never ticket below 90.
I applaud your honesty but I'm not sure I would post that on here. If you are a serving bib, that sort of statement seems to have been used against people in the past.

If I was a bib, I wouldn't stick a figure on it. I'd be just as likely to ticket a 75mph poorly maintained looking, inappropriate attitude, with questionable observation skills, in inappropriate circumstances, as I would be lenient with the opposite doing 100 and possibly more.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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I have no issues with posting my tolerances. I can justify them and all enforcement action I take or do not take My Psd are well aware of my identity due to a previous complaint against me on here.

85 is well known as the speed to stay below to avoid tickets.

Personaly in the times of public satisfaction and confidence measures my view is that the public knowing it's sensible speed enforcement out there is a positive thing.


Durzel

12,288 posts

169 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Surely it's not just about the individuals speed but how it relates to other people on the road? I mean I can think of occasions where it would be safe to drive at 125mph on the motorway (or more), and there are others where either traffic density or weather conditions would make it rackless to do 60mph.

One of those scenarios is 100% legal and presumably wouldn't incur your wrath, and the other would? Or am I reading too much into your statement?

Also isn't the differential in speed an issue too? If you've got people driving at 70-ish and expecting others do be doing likewise you could have the best brakes etc in the World and it's not going to change the fact other road users will have all kinds of reactions to someone sharing the road with them doing nearly twice their speed.

Surely one has to take into account the circumstances rather than posting blanket statements like "I don't ticket below 90". If I was caught doing 125mph on an empty motorway at 3am I'd probably feel a bit cheesed off but I couldn't really pretend I didn't know what I was doing either.

Quite a peculiar statement for a BiB to make imo, but each to their own I guess.

Edited by Durzel on Wednesday 25th August 19:21

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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If it's reckless to do 60 then the offence would be careless or dangerous driving.

The average motorway speed is 80-85.

So targeting those above that speed is hardly an odd statement to make.

If your doing 55 above the limit then you have to expect enforcement.

Elroy Blue

8,690 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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TPS said:
The cut off limit is 96mph for a fixed penalty. Therfore its a trip to court now.
Possible outcome will be upto 6 points,maximum fine upto £1000,disqualification is possible and can be between 7-56 days.
I've given many a ticket for over 96mph. In fact there usually has to be an extra aggravating factor before I'll report (bad weather, racing etc). Sometimes I have to explain why I've ticketed for 100+, but it's my discretion. Never had any come back.

Edited by Elroy Blue on Thursday 26th August 08:59

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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TBH op i have no idea how you managed that. I feel very sorry for you of course. Kent police are one of the best police forces in the uk imho.
I live in kent but travel all over the uk and you will rarely ever see plod or speed cameras on se kent motorways and if you do they are very chilled out and are only interested road safety.

Most other forces come across as sneaky motorist haters. Essex being by far the worst.


TPS

1,860 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Elroy Blue said:
TPS said:
The cut off limit is 96mph for a fixed penalty. Therfore its a trip to court now.
Possible outcome will be upto 6 points,maximum fine upto £1000,disqualification is possible and can be between 7-56 days.

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I've given many a ticket for over 96mph. In fact there usually has to be an extra aggravating factor before I'll report (bad weather, racing etc). Sometimes I have to explain why I've ticketed for 100+, but it's my discretion. Never had any come back.
I stand corrected(copied it from another site).Interesting to know that though.

Stedman

7,229 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
It does happen. Depends on circumstance and the person stopped.
clap

Damn right it does.

Dad was only telling me yesterday how he stopped a bloke doing 125mph. Bloke said my Dad wouldn't be interested in the 'excuse'. Dad said he would be. Turned out, the bloke had his baby daughter roughly 2 years old violently projectile vomiting EVERYWHERE in the car. EV-ER-Y-WHERE vomit

It does happen, and more often that you think! (and why shouldn't it biggrin)


plg

4,106 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Stedman said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
It does happen. Depends on circumstance and the person stopped.
clap

Damn right it does.

Dad was only telling me yesterday how he stopped a bloke doing 125mph. Bloke said my Dad wouldn't be interested in the 'excuse'. Dad said he would be. Turned out, the bloke had his baby daughter roughly 2 years old violently projectile vomiting EVERYWHERE in the car. EV-ER-Y-WHERE vomit

It does happen, and more often that you think! (and why shouldn't it biggrin)
<playing devils advocate>

Still no excuse. Why didn't he stop to tend to the child instead of speeding up?

JonRB

74,798 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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spikeyhead said:
siz
Irony; it's like woody and bronzey only made of iron. wink

JonRB

74,798 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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ol said:
Salary of most self employed people before they 'top it up' with share dividends...
rolleyes

It's called "tax mitigation". You think the grass is greener this side? Then jump the fence or STFU.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Stedman said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
It does happen. Depends on circumstance and the person stopped.
clap

Damn right it does.

Dad was only telling me yesterday how he stopped a bloke doing 125mph. Bloke said my Dad wouldn't be interested in the 'excuse'. Dad said he would be. Turned out, the bloke had his baby daughter roughly 2 years old violently projectile vomiting EVERYWHERE in the car. EV-ER-Y-WHERE vomit

It does happen, and more often that you think! (and why shouldn't it biggrin)
Righttttt.....cause thats a good excuse.

andy_s

19,415 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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JonRB said:
ol said:
Salary of most self employed people before they 'top it up' with share dividends...
rolleyes

It's called "tax mitigation". You think the grass is greener this side? Then jump the fence or STFU.
rofl

Elroy Blue

8,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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JonRB said:
ol said:
Salary of most self employed people before they 'top it up' with share dividends...
rolleyes

It's called "tax mitigation". You think the grass is greener this side? Then jump the fence or STFU.
THREAD DRIFT.

Mitigation? I think normal people call it tax avoidance. A bit like benefit scroungers claiming things they're not entitled too. Bet you get a receipt for EVERYTHING as well. (Nice way to fiddle the VAT)

plg

4,106 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Elroy Blue said:
JonRB said:
ol said:
Salary of most self employed people before they 'top it up' with share dividends...
rolleyes

It's called "tax mitigation". You think the grass is greener this side? Then jump the fence or STFU.
THREAD DRIFT.

Mitigation? I think normal people call it tax avoidance. A bit like benefit scroungers claiming things they're not entitled too. Bet you get a receipt for EVERYTHING as well. (Nice way to fiddle the VAT)
It's avoidance if you circumvent the rules. Paying dividends in the manner described is within the rules. Though I understand it can make mortgage conversations interesting when it comes to proving salary. (not impossible, just more paperwork)

Elroy Blue

8,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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'Within the rules'. A bit like MP's expenses then.

plg

4,106 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Elroy Blue said:
'Within the rules'. A bit like MP's expenses then.
I wasn't defending it. Just stating the facts. Benefits scroungers claiming things they aren't entitled to are breaking the law. Using HMRC rules as published is legal and in this case widespread. Given it is such a major mechanism with the tax system, why hasn't it been changed?

If you don't agree with the rules, lobby to get them changed.

It just irks me when someone compared people compare an illegal activity with a legal one that brings them an advantage due to, in this case, an overly complex tax system with more loopholes than a wooly jumper.

(I'm PAYE on my full salary, not self employed so no self interest)

Elroy Blue

8,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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My point was that there are mant benefit scroungers 'legally' claiming for the likes of disability benefit. (So called bad back/depression). We know it's fraudulent, but it's legal. What's the difference. The benefit leeches get castigated (rightly) for stealing from the country. Why is it any different for those that 'legally' fiddle Tax and VAT. They're stealing from the country in exactly the same way.

fesuvious said:
you want some salt'n'vinegar to go with that Elroy?
Well, they do say the truth hurts. It's no surprise that the people who rip the country off in this way like to lash out and divert attention from themselves.





Edited by Elroy Blue on Thursday 26th August 09:40

plg

4,106 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Elroy Blue said:
My point was that there are mant benefit scroungers 'legally' claiming for the likes of disability benefit. (So called bad back/depression). We know it's fraudulent, but it's legal. What's the difference. The benefit leeches get castigated (rightly) for stealing from the country. Why is it any different for those that 'legally' fiddle Tax and VAT. They're stealing from the country in exactly the same way.
I agree with you on this - sorry - I misunderstood in your initial posting.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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JonRB said:
ol said:
Salary of most self employed people before they 'top it up' with share dividends...
rolleyes

It's called "tax mitigation". You think the grass is greener this side? Then jump the fence or STFU.
Or it is a hell of a lot more than you earn if you don't get that contract, or your quote was too high for the job, this months earning is Circa £0. Self employment means either big cash or fk all, and the option to run your business to minimise tax.

Edited by Engineer1 on Thursday 26th August 09:56