What planet are some people on?

What planet are some people on?

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wrinkly

755 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Take no notice tonyrec. Your opinions and attitude are well known and respected.

pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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oggs said:


volvod5_dude said:



tonyrec said:
Going through the 40mph Speed limit at Contraflow Roadworks on the M1 at speeds around 80-90 mph.......total and utter idiots and deserve all they get...........next!

Sadly, excuses like, "i wasnt doing any harm", or "Im late for a meeting", or "I didnt realise what speed i was doing".....FFS, that means that they didnt even see the roadworks!!!!!!


For the record, i was very polite but very firm.





How do we know that you are a plod and not making all this shite up?? Some people "get off" on pretending to be something they are not!!




I'll start it off

I know Tony personally and he is what he says he is

And i'm know quite a few do too.



But how do we know you're real?

>> Edited by pwig on Sunday 4th April 15:21

tonyrec

Original Poster:

3,984 posts

256 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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See my new post.......(i had to climb over the wall to get this photo).

planetdave

9,921 posts

254 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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What planet are some people on?

Can this possibly be the first post where I don't actually upset TR?

'Cos normally I've had a hard day, get completely smashed

and then come on here shouting my mouth off and misinterpreting stuff/wrong end of stick and all that.

So now you know

northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Buffalo said:

Well, i tell you what, you stand on the other side of the cones in a 40mph road works area and have idiots fly past your head at 90mph.... See how you like it!??? (


You'd think, wouldn't you, that this would mean that the people doing the work, and the authorities organising it wuld all want roadworks to be done as quickly as possible. Perhaps by having a large team working continuously on them from the moment they start until the moment they end.

As has been said above, having a 40mph limit at 5:30 pm when everyone seems to have gone home is not the best way to get people to respect the speed limits there. Better to keep the delays to a minimum by not starting roadworks that then have to be left unattended for hours (or days) on end.

northernboy

12,642 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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tonyrec said:

northernboy said:


tonyrec said:
It does require a 40 limit as there is only a few cones seperating the 'workforce' from vehicular traffic.
If people cant show respect for other peoples safety with the 40 limit for 2 miles then they are getting all they deserve.

I will meet a few more this afternoon no doubt!

As an aside,people cant/wont obey the 70 limit (within reason) and thats why we are kept so busy.




So I assume that the limit is taken back up to 70 when the layabouts go home at 5:00?

No? What a surprise.



You seem to miss the point......its a 24hr roadworks.......Doh!!!


But most aren't. And people therefore get into a habit of ignoring the speed limits at all of them.

Are there actually people working at full pace through the night then? That's a pretty rare occurrence in the UK. Most roadworks are left standing at night, and on the weekends. And bank holidays.

Buffalo

5,435 posts

255 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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nonegreen said:

Buffalo said:


nonegreen said:
Does it really require a 40mph limit? Would 50 or 60 be more apropriate? If so, then would 50 or 60 be better respected? When they make the limit too low there is that red mist effect. The sandalistlentilistthinkofthechildrenists are responsible for a lot of deaths, and your resultant rise in blood pressure. I agree 80 or 90 is too fast but what price we pay for bad road management.




Well, i tell you what, you stand on the other side of the cones in a 40mph road works area and have idiots fly past your head at 90mph.... See how you like it!???

I can guarantee that you will slow down the next time you enter roadworks EVEN if there are no limits. Its all about APPROPRIATE speed! If the roadworks aren't being worked, eg sunday and vis is good, fair enough. If they are being worked, then please do yourself and the workers a favour and slow a bit eh?

Been on that side of the cones and its not fun.....



I really apreciate what you are saying. I cannot help but think though if you knew all the people flashing past were competent then their speed would be unalarming. I certainly get very scared by some of the things people do on the road and it is rarely to do with speed, invariably to do with the lack of skill of those involved.

In reality of course the risk assessments will ultimately ban cones as they do not provide adequate protection for workers. I would like to see each motorway to have a spare set out next to it so essential road maintenance can be carried out risk free. There is also the advantage that this policy would wind the greens up.


sorry - forgot about this thread until this evening!

I think i would agree with you that on a risk basis if everyone were better trained the risk of an accident within roadworks would be greatly reduced. BUT even if we were all the best drivers in the world 90mph still wouldn't be appropriate IMHO. Not without some form of width between workers and traffic - significantly greater than a cone's width! If 'we' took another lane of 'your' motorway to allow you to speed through the works 'you' would still moan

Ironically if drivers were better trained as to the dangers of speeding through roadworks, they probably wouldn't.....

BTW 'you' doesn't mean you personally!

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Tuesday 6th April 2004
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northernboy said:

tonyrec said:


northernboy said:



tonyrec said:
It does require a 40 limit as there is only a few cones seperating the 'workforce' from vehicular traffic.
If people cant show respect for other peoples safety with the 40 limit for 2 miles then they are getting all they deserve.

I will meet a few more this afternoon no doubt!

As an aside,people cant/wont obey the 70 limit (within reason) and thats why we are kept so busy.





So I assume that the limit is taken back up to 70 when the layabouts go home at 5:00?

No? What a surprise.




You seem to miss the point......its a 24hr roadworks.......Doh!!!



But most aren't. And people therefore get into a habit of ignoring the speed limits at all of them.

Are there actually people working at full pace through the night then? That's a pretty rare occurrence in the UK. Most roadworks are left standing at night, and on the weekends. And bank holidays.


and weekdays........in many cases