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750turbo said:
XG332 said:
750turbo said:
oldcynic said:
A205GTI said:
Lots of very good advice
Unfortunately this advice doesn't account for your car being clamped for touching the paint of the line marking the adjacent space which happens to be patrolled by a bunch of thugs, who then clamp your car within about 90 seconds, refuse to allow you access to your own vehicle, then load it onto a truck while you're off getting a ludicrous sum of money to get the car released, then increase the bill to £3000 the following day but refuse to allow you to pay, then sell the car through their own auction house within 2 weeks. Police appear to be in the pockets of the clampers if there's even a shred of truth in what's told here. Clampers don't bother showing up in court and currently have over £17000 outstanding in unpaid CCJ's - weirdly one of the thugs is also a court bailiff. Police refuse to register car as stolen - claiming it's a civil matter.Linky please?
750turbo said:
XG332 said:
750turbo said:
oldcynic said:
A205GTI said:
Lots of very good advice
Unfortunately this advice doesn't account for your car being clamped for touching the paint of the line marking the adjacent space which happens to be patrolled by a bunch of thugs, who then clamp your car within about 90 seconds, refuse to allow you access to your own vehicle, then load it onto a truck while you're off getting a ludicrous sum of money to get the car released, then increase the bill to £3000 the following day but refuse to allow you to pay, then sell the car through their own auction house within 2 weeks. Police appear to be in the pockets of the clampers if there's even a shred of truth in what's told here. Clampers don't bother showing up in court and currently have over £17000 outstanding in unpaid CCJ's - weirdly one of the thugs is also a court bailiff. Police refuse to register car as stolen - claiming it's a civil matter.Linky please?
Shaw Tarse said:
750turbo said:
XG332 said:
750turbo said:
oldcynic said:
A205GTI said:
Lots of very good advice
Unfortunately this advice doesn't account for your car being clamped for touching the paint of the line marking the adjacent space which happens to be patrolled by a bunch of thugs, who then clamp your car within about 90 seconds, refuse to allow you access to your own vehicle, then load it onto a truck while you're off getting a ludicrous sum of money to get the car released, then increase the bill to £3000 the following day but refuse to allow you to pay, then sell the car through their own auction house within 2 weeks. Police appear to be in the pockets of the clampers if there's even a shred of truth in what's told here. Clampers don't bother showing up in court and currently have over £17000 outstanding in unpaid CCJ's - weirdly one of the thugs is also a court bailiff. Police refuse to register car as stolen - claiming it's a civil matter.Linky please?
HIC!750turbo said:
oldcynic said:
A205GTI said:
Lots of very good advice
Unfortunately this advice doesn't account for your car being clamped for touching the paint of the line marking the adjacent space which happens to be patrolled by a bunch of thugs, who then clamp your car within about 90 seconds, refuse to allow you access to your own vehicle, then load it onto a truck while you're off getting a ludicrous sum of money to get the car released, then increase the bill to £3000 the following day but refuse to allow you to pay, then sell the car through their own auction house within 2 weeks. Police appear to be in the pockets of the clampers if there's even a shred of truth in what's told here. Clampers don't bother showing up in court and currently have over £17000 outstanding in unpaid CCJ's - weirdly one of the thugs is also a court bailiff. Police refuse to register car as stolen - claiming it's a civil matter.This was a long and involved thread when I first picked up on it, in fact wanting to comment was one of my reasons for joining PH, but that was only after about 17 pages. If I've missed anything crucial I'm sure someone will be along shortly to fill in the details.
oldcynic said:
750turbo said:
oldcynic said:
A205GTI said:
Lots of very good advice
Unfortunately this advice doesn't account for your car being clamped for touching the paint of the line marking the adjacent space which happens to be patrolled by a bunch of thugs, who then clamp your car within about 90 seconds, refuse to allow you access to your own vehicle, then load it onto a truck while you're off getting a ludicrous sum of money to get the car released, then increase the bill to £3000 the following day but refuse to allow you to pay, then sell the car through their own auction house within 2 weeks. Police appear to be in the pockets of the clampers if there's even a shred of truth in what's told here. Clampers don't bother showing up in court and currently have over £17000 outstanding in unpaid CCJ's - weirdly one of the thugs is also a court bailiff. Police refuse to register car as stolen - claiming it's a civil matter.This was a long and involved thread when I first picked up on it, in fact wanting to comment was one of my reasons for joining PH, but that was only after about 17 pages. If I've missed anything crucial I'm sure someone will be along shortly to fill in the details.
Excellent summary, just very sad for OP if it is all true!
As for LBS and clamping in general, best not to comment, but I am glad I am in Scotland,
Have a beer on me
oldcynic said:
750turbo said:
oldcynic said:
A205GTI said:
Lots of very good advice
Unfortunately this advice doesn't account for your car being clamped for touching the paint of the line marking the adjacent space which happens to be patrolled by a bunch of thugs, who then clamp your car within about 90 seconds, refuse to allow you access to your own vehicle, then load it onto a truck while you're off getting a ludicrous sum of money to get the car released, then increase the bill to £3000 the following day but refuse to allow you to pay, then sell the car through their own auction house within 2 weeks. Police appear to be in the pockets of the clampers if there's even a shred of truth in what's told here. Clampers don't bother showing up in court and currently have over £17000 outstanding in unpaid CCJ's - weirdly one of the thugs is also a court bailiff. Police refuse to register car as stolen - claiming it's a civil matter.This was a long and involved thread when I first picked up on it, in fact wanting to comment was one of my reasons for joining PH, but that was only after about 17 pages. If I've missed anything crucial I'm sure someone will be along shortly to fill in the details.
Has anyone read this? Looks like this lot have run to Spain!
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8758706.Notorious_...
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8758706.Notorious_...
I see DWSPIRIT is still going strong then 
boxedoffroader said:
boxedoffroader said:
Has anyone read this? Looks like this lot have run to Spain!
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8758706.Notorious_...
I wonder if his bail conditions allow him to leave the country?http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8758706.Notorious_...
Cyberprog said:
boxedoffroader said:
Has anyone read this? Looks like this lot have run to Spain!
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8758706.Notorious_...
I wonder if his bail conditions allow him to leave the country?http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8758706.Notorious_...
Cyberprog said:
Then report it to the police & the echo, get his bail revoked, and let him enjoy remand.
Bit tricky if he's already quit the country, although that would suggest he can afford to forfeit the bail money - not surprising if what gets reported is the tip of the iceberg. However that would impair any future travel plans for him, and leave the charge (or conviction) outstanding I presume, on top of conviction in his absence for breaking bail terms.Sounds like someone has actually hit him with a charge that might stick though. Any chance the OP can find a suitably skilled lawyer to formulate a charge out of the s
t he's been through?oldcynic said:
Cyberprog said:
Then report it to the police & the echo, get his bail revoked, and let him enjoy remand.
Bit tricky if he's already quit the country, although that would suggest he can afford to forfeit the bail money - not surprising if what gets reported is the tip of the iceberg. However that would impair any future travel plans for him, and leave the charge (or conviction) outstanding I presume, on top of conviction in his absence for breaking bail terms.Sounds like someone has actually hit him with a charge that might stick though. Any chance the OP can find a suitably skilled lawyer to formulate a charge out of the s
t he's been through?t!Before we go zooming off into a discussion of the EAW, can anyone validate the following comment?
Below Echo article noj said:
Well, if he is in Spain, his double can be found daily at their office (Unit 2&3 Totman Close Brook Rd Ind Estate Rayleigh). Their grey recovery truck still busy back and forth and all tucked up safely behind the new massive steel fence they have put up around their unit.
Having an apartment in Spain doesn't mean you live there!
StreakyHaving an apartment in Spain doesn't mean you live there!
Cyberprog said:
oldcynic said:
Cyberprog said:
Then report it to the police & the echo, get his bail revoked, and let him enjoy remand.
Bit tricky if he's already quit the country, although that would suggest he can afford to forfeit the bail money - not surprising if what gets reported is the tip of the iceberg. However that would impair any future travel plans for him, and leave the charge (or conviction) outstanding I presume, on top of conviction in his absence for breaking bail terms.Sounds like someone has actually hit him with a charge that might stick though. Any chance the OP can find a suitably skilled lawyer to formulate a charge out of the s
t he's been through?t!streaky said:
Unfortunately, because you haven't read every post, your summary is significantly incorrect - Streaky
It's a while since I've read much of what's written here, and whilst I sympathise with the OP I don't have the time to re-read the entire thread in order to post a more accurate summary. There were some side-issues around business use of vehicle, actual value of vehicle, OP not being level headed and keeping comprehensive notes when his vehicle was taken etc etc.If I've made any significant errors then I apologise. My summary is my understanding of the current state of play after filtering out the sideshows along the way. Anyone with a spare day is welcome to read the thread for a more complete picture.
Personally I think the government should have stepped in years ago to clearly define the boundaries between civil and criminal, penalty charges and extortion, parking and entrapment. Instead a number of clamping firms have exploited their position and discovered that you can basically charge whatever you like and continue trading even when your victims have had their day in court - LBS is not the only firm with unpaid CCJ's.
Trouble is that clamping is a serious political minefield. I'd be surprised if anyone actually thinks that Bella Smallville has been treated fairly on the basis of the information provided here. However most people accept that there has to be some form of recourse to prevent/discourage complete strangers from parking on your land simply because it happens to suit their purposes. I'd like to see a balanced, proportionate approach.
I also accept that Essex BiB probably feel pretty powerless in the absence of clear legislation on clamping, although their actions do appear somewhat negligent if the information presented here is correct. I guess their mandate is to uphold the law, not to make up new laws because the government refuse to deal with an issue.
streaky said:
boxedoffroader said:
Posted on more discusting clamping behavioursic a couple of days ago - StreakyCan't these two anti-LBJ threads be merged to keep all the hysteria in one place?
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