101 on the M40
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Hi all
I got stopped on the M40 doing 101MPH. I was stopped by the BiB who were sat on a bridge with a laser.
I started to read ACPO document on Code of Practise for Road Policing. It clearly says in there that when a laser gun is used from a bridge the police officer must be stood on the bridge, and visable from a distance.
In my case there were two officers in the car, and the on eholding the gun was sat in the passenger seat and the police car was hidden behind the barrier on the bridge.
In anyones opinion is this enought to get them off my case?
Really p*sses me off, I work my ass of running 2 companies, pay my taxes on time, never had an accident. Then you see people who have no insurance or tax, drive like maniacs and get away with it.
I was just in a rush for a meeting, and get caught. This is on an empty motorway, where there was no risk to anyone else.....
Cheers
I got stopped on the M40 doing 101MPH. I was stopped by the BiB who were sat on a bridge with a laser.
I started to read ACPO document on Code of Practise for Road Policing. It clearly says in there that when a laser gun is used from a bridge the police officer must be stood on the bridge, and visable from a distance.
In my case there were two officers in the car, and the on eholding the gun was sat in the passenger seat and the police car was hidden behind the barrier on the bridge.
In anyones opinion is this enought to get them off my case?
Really p*sses me off, I work my ass of running 2 companies, pay my taxes on time, never had an accident. Then you see people who have no insurance or tax, drive like maniacs and get away with it.
I was just in a rush for a meeting, and get caught. This is on an empty motorway, where there was no risk to anyone else.....
Cheers
seandudding said:
Hi all
I got stopped on the M40 doing 101MPH. I was stopped by the BiB who were sat on a bridge with a laser.
I started to read ACPO document on Code of Practise for Road Policing. It clearly says in there that when a laser gun is used from a bridge the police officer must be stood on the bridge, and visable from a distance.
In my case there were two officers in the car, and the on eholding the gun was sat in the passenger seat and the police car was hidden behind the barrier on the bridge.
In anyones opinion is this enought to get them off my case?
Really p*sses me off, I work my ass of running 2 companies, pay my taxes on time, never had an accident. Then you see people who have no insurance or tax, drive like maniacs and get away with it.
I was just in a rush for a meeting, and get caught. This is on an empty motorway, where there was no risk to anyone else.....
Cheers
Sounds like they were using the device in accordance with the ACPO guidelines as far as the measurement is concerned. Lasers can be used from within a car as long as teh window is open.
There is no requirement for the police officer to be visible.
The officer will have no problem with convincing a magistrate that he/she assessed your speed beofre making the measurement as its not difficult to come to the conclusion that you were speeding when you have been measured at 101mph.
Sounds like you would only have the chance of teh gun being out of calibration when your measurement was taken and this would be rare as most plod is wise to this one now.
Good luck.
KE=1/2 mv**2
Wealth, owning a nice fast car and considering yourself to be very important doesn't put you above the law. Yuppie arrogance like that should have died in the '80s.
I love driving fast - but only where it's safe and legal.
Isn't being caught at >100 mph likely to result in disqualification?
Wealth, owning a nice fast car and considering yourself to be very important doesn't put you above the law. Yuppie arrogance like that should have died in the '80s.
I love driving fast - but only where it's safe and legal.
Isn't being caught at >100 mph likely to result in disqualification?
nickwilcock said:
KE=1/2 mv**2
Wealth, owning a nice fast car and considering yourself to be very important doesn't put you above the law. Yuppie arrogance like that should have died in the '80s.
I love driving fast - but only where it's safe and legal.
Isn't being caught at >100 mph likely to result in disqualification?
Why Legal, surely safe is sufficient?
nickwilcock said:
Yuppie arrogance like that should have died in the '80s.
Nick, you're being quite judgemental here. Just because Sean views speeding fines as taxation doesn't make him arrogant. I work hard and begrudge paying as much tax as I do these days. Does that make me an arrogant 'yuppie'?
nickwilcock said:
I love driving fast - but only where it's safe and legal.
I know loads of roads where it is safe to drive fast, including the M40 when traffic is sparse, but it is not legal on any of them, so I assume you must mean on track? If not, where are these mythical roads?
I ask this as someone who takes road safety seriously and has in the past:
1 - Spent eighteen days in hospital having been almost killed by a drink driver.
2 - Had a stationary car smashed up by an dangerous driving uninsured scrote who did a runner.
3 - Never been involved in an at fault accident.
4 - Has paid £'000s in insurance premiums because I have been caught safely breaking these arbitrary limits many times without consequence to other roadusers or pedestrians.
5 - Once had a 14 day ban.
6 - Been on 9 points for an eighteen month period, where I had to drive dangerously slow including mounting a pavement to stop an overtaking car going headon into an articulated lorry.
DAZ
>> Edited by dazren on Sunday 11th April 22:18
seandudding said:
I got stopped on the M40 doing 101MPH. I was stopped by the BiB who were sat on a bridge with a laser.
I was just in a rush for a meeting, and get caught. This is on an empty motorway, where there was no risk to anyone else.....
Cheers
If this is correct sounds pretty safe to me assuming road conditions were ok, get off your high horse Nickwilcox
nickwilcock said:
KE=1/2 mv**2
Wealth, owning a nice fast car and considering yourself to be very important doesn't put you above the law. Yuppie arrogance like that should have died in the '80s.
I love driving fast - but only where it's safe and legal.
Isn't being caught at >100 mph likely to result in disqualification?
Hmmm but on an empty motorway where is the dnger to anyone else?
Mind you if the motorway was empty it can't have been a productive day for the police officers!
German autobahns - that's where I drive in excess of 70 mph.
My comments weren't aimed at any specfic individual; they were general in nature.
Here's a question:
Would you be happy with, say, a 85 mph limit on UK motorways BUT with much higher penalties for exceeding the limit? I understand that when the Dutch limits were brought in line with those of France/Belgium, they were given this choice....
>> Edited by nickwilcock on Sunday 11th April 22:25
My comments weren't aimed at any specfic individual; they were general in nature.
Here's a question:
Would you be happy with, say, a 85 mph limit on UK motorways BUT with much higher penalties for exceeding the limit? I understand that when the Dutch limits were brought in line with those of France/Belgium, they were given this choice....
>> Edited by nickwilcock on Sunday 11th April 22:25
nickwilcock said:
German autobahns - that's where I drive in excess of 70 mph.
The road strucure/visibility etc of the autobahn are no different to the UK motorway network (apart from driving on the wrong side of the road of course).
nickwilcock said:
Would you be happy with, say, a 85 mph limit on UK motorways BUT with much higher penalties for exceeding the limit? I understand that when the Dutch limits were brought in line with those of France/Belgium, they were given this choice....
Personally no. I would like to see no limits on motorways when there is sparse traffic. Combined with more police cars charging the people who do cause accidents such as those that are driving dangerously, tailgating, whilst tired etc.....
DAZ
dazren said:
German autobahns - that's where I drive in excess of 70 mph.
The road strucure/visibility etc of the autobahn are no different to the UK motorway network (apart from driving on the wrong side of the road of course).
nickwilcock said:
Would you be happy with, say, a 85 mph limit on UK motorways BUT with much higher penalties for exceeding the limit? I understand that when the Dutch limits were brought in line with those of France/Belgium, they were given this choice....
Personally no. I would like to see no limits on motorways when there is sparse traffic. Combined with more police cars charging the people who do cause accidents such as those that are driving dangerously, tailgating, whilst tired etc.....
DAZ
Agreed on both points
). Well, I'll certainly agree that the Oxfordshire section is probably the only place in the county where it's still legal to drive at a reasonable speed! The tree-hugging county council have slapped pointless speed limits all over the place; the local police didn't support them, saying that such limits were unneccesary and unenforceable and served only to irritate otherwise law-abiding motorists. Plus that they would simply be ignored by many, leading to a general air of 'speed limits don't matter' - which they were anxious to avoid.
The county council have admitted that their traffic policies are based not on risk assessment and cost-benefit analysis, but on politics.
What was it Clarkson said? "Speed limits imposed not by people who know what they're talking about, but by mad vegetarians on bicycles"
Incidentally, the German autobahn system has a somewhat different infrastructure to the UK motorway system - and many do have mandatory speed limits.
But others don't....
>> Edited by nickwilcock on Sunday 11th April 23:34
The county council have admitted that their traffic policies are based not on risk assessment and cost-benefit analysis, but on politics.
What was it Clarkson said? "Speed limits imposed not by people who know what they're talking about, but by mad vegetarians on bicycles"
Incidentally, the German autobahn system has a somewhat different infrastructure to the UK motorway system - and many do have mandatory speed limits.
But others don't....
>> Edited by nickwilcock on Sunday 11th April 23:34
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