101 on the M40
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The car was sat on the bridge above the junction before the M25 heading into London.
As for been accussed of being arrogant because I supposedly have a nice car, I was in a 4 year old Audi Estate and it was Diesel. So I don't think that factors into it.
Anyone recommend a good lawyer. Last time I was up for something like this 6 years ago, I swear the lawyer made things worse for me.
I will take any penalty they give me, as I was breaking the limit. I would just like to minimize the impact as I run 2 companies and both of them require me to drive.
As for been accussed of being arrogant because I supposedly have a nice car, I was in a 4 year old Audi Estate and it was Diesel. So I don't think that factors into it.
Anyone recommend a good lawyer. Last time I was up for something like this 6 years ago, I swear the lawyer made things worse for me.
I will take any penalty they give me, as I was breaking the limit. I would just like to minimize the impact as I run 2 companies and both of them require me to drive.
seandudding said:
The car was sat on the bridge above the junction before the M25 heading into London.
As for been accussed of being arrogant because I supposedly have a nice car, I was in a 4 year old Audi Estate and it was Diesel. So I don't think that factors into it.
Anyone recommend a good lawyer. Last time I was up for something like this 6 years ago, I swear the lawyer made things worse for me.
I will take any penalty they give me, as I was breaking the limit. I would just like to minimize the impact as I run 2 companies and both of them require me to drive.
personaly when they hand out a fine
I prefeaer to tell them to kiss my arss.
I would rather they pay for my board and logging for a few days.
I everone done the same they would be stuffed in the tax colecting scam.
>> Edited by OUTLAWisBACK on Tuesday 13th April 08:26
nickwilcock said:
Well, I'll certainly agree that the Oxfordshire section is probably the only place in the county where it's still legal to drive at a reasonable speed! The tree-hugging county council have slapped pointless speed limits all over the place; the local police didn't support them, saying that such limits were unneccesary and unenforceable and served only to irritate otherwise law-abiding motorists. Plus that they would simply be ignored by many, leading to a general air of 'speed limits don't matter' - which they were anxious to avoid.
The county council have admitted that their traffic policies are based not on risk assessment and cost-benefit analysis, but on politics.
What was it Clarkson said? "Speed limits imposed not by people who know what they're talking about, but by mad vegetarians on bicycles"
Incidentally, the German autobahn system has a somewhat different infrastructure to the UK motorway system - and many do have mandatory speed limits.
But others don't....
>> Edited by nickwilcock on Sunday 11th April 23:34
I will let you off hook on basis of your sensible remark on the muesli munching mushy brained twazaks aka inept politically correct Stasi politicians!
Yes, German A/Bahn have different infrastructure, and yes the muesli munching Greenies placed mandatory 130kph on lots of sections. (And 130kph is, and always has been, advisory limit anyway, and if you have crash above this - advisable to read the small print of your insurance policy.
) But German A/Bahn are old two lane affairs, and thus not as pleasant as our safe 3 lane m/ways. (Of course - they very correctly include drive on A/bahn as part of the standard L-test too - which is only too right!) Also said before that if you abuse the privilege of opening out your macho set of wheels by OTT and dangerous driving - the Germans would prosecute forcibly. They are not that daft! Sure I drive nice car, like driving it too.
But I make sure I drive safely and according to road conditions at all times, (and I actually check the web sites to establish target areas before I set off - just in case I give in to temptation (rare? 
) and blow off the cobwebs in the engine 
) (And I can usually second-guess where they will target anyway - just before or just after a speed limit change! 
) But working hard, being able to afford a comfy car, send the kids to decent school, about to be charged £400 each (my own and most probably the foster kids) to send 'em by bus (according to latest piffle from this deranged government, does not make either myself or my husband "arrogant!" (Even if we do - er - drive a little bit faster than the law says we ought to sometimes.
) seandudding said:
The car was sat on the bridge above the junction before the M25 heading into London.
As for been accussed of being arrogant because I supposedly have a nice car, I was in a 4 year old Audi Estate and it was Diesel. So I don't think that factors into it.
Anyone recommend a good lawyer. Last time I was up for something like this 6 years ago, I swear the lawyer made things worse for me.
I will take any penalty they give me, as I was breaking the limit. I would just like to minimize the impact as I run 2 companies and both of them require me to drive.
I was up in front of the Bench just under 5 years ago for getting caught doing 106mph on a motorway. My lawyer was great and advised me what route to go down to get a lesser penalty. Result was 6 points and £300 fine. i was quite happy with that
Sean
Bad luck - my advice is to set out your position to the magistrates yourself (not via a solicitor) and ask them with courtesy n ot to impose a ban. It has worked for me 3 out of four times.
As to Mr Wilcox - I assume that you have a beard and probably teach geography?
I for one am glad to say that the 80's ethos is alive and well. Greed IS good and I firmly believe that the amount of tax that I pay entitles me to considerable leeway in issues such as these
Bad luck - my advice is to set out your position to the magistrates yourself (not via a solicitor) and ask them with courtesy n ot to impose a ban. It has worked for me 3 out of four times.
As to Mr Wilcox - I assume that you have a beard and probably teach geography?
I for one am glad to say that the 80's ethos is alive and well. Greed IS good and I firmly believe that the amount of tax that I pay entitles me to considerable leeway in issues such as these
sad.
You run two companies and you therefore risked not only yoru own life ( and teh cost to the other taxpayers here) but potentialy the livelihoods of others you employ. NOt to mention family and friends. All to be at a meeting a few minutes earlier. Seriously, the diference between 101 AND 85 is not going to make or break a deal now is it? but it could have saved you the hassle.
Any idea how much longer it takees you to stop at 101, especialy in a knackered old diesel? What if somethijhg had been chucked off the bridge? like to see you swerve and estate at 101.
I hope, for the sake of yoru employees, that you get let off - but i suspect you might be up for teh big one.
fingers crossed.
You run two companies and you therefore risked not only yoru own life ( and teh cost to the other taxpayers here) but potentialy the livelihoods of others you employ. NOt to mention family and friends. All to be at a meeting a few minutes earlier. Seriously, the diference between 101 AND 85 is not going to make or break a deal now is it? but it could have saved you the hassle.
Any idea how much longer it takees you to stop at 101, especialy in a knackered old diesel? What if somethijhg had been chucked off the bridge? like to see you swerve and estate at 101.
I hope, for the sake of yoru employees, that you get let off - but i suspect you might be up for teh big one.
fingers crossed.
walsingham said:
Any idea how much longer it takees you to stop at 101, especialy in a knackered old diesel? What if something had been chucked off the bridge? like to see you swerve and estate at 101.
Er since when was a four year old Audi diesel estate a knackered old diesel? These cars are designed and built to go up and down autobahns all day at 135mph+
As for things being thrown off bridges I'd like to see the perpetraitors arrested. If we are playing the "what if game" perhaps car drivers should also be looking out for spitfire pilots needing to use the motorway to make an emergency landing.
DAZ
If you and others have a reliance on your license then you probably wont get banned for 101mph.
As for the difference between 85mph and 101mph yes there is the obvious physical argument.
Odd though that you suggest that speeding is alright at the speed which you presumably do it but its not alright for others to apply Rule 57 to their journeys.
This is whats annoying about the speed argument, mostly its based on a hypocritical point of view.
As for the difference between 85mph and 101mph yes there is the obvious physical argument.
Odd though that you suggest that speeding is alright at the speed which you presumably do it but its not alright for others to apply Rule 57 to their journeys.
This is whats annoying about the speed argument, mostly its based on a hypocritical point of view.
Walsingham
Your right the difference in time between a and b at 101 and 85 is negligable, but 85 is illegal also. But sometimes when your in a rush speeds climb up before you know it, I think most drivers have been guilty of this at some point. This time I was stupid enought to let it happen, and got caught.
As for my car been a old. As Dazren says it was designed to travel at in excess of this speed all day long.
As for putting my employees future at risk, you know nothing about me, so cannot judge on that.
I know I am guilty of this, and I will take what ever punishment is given. All I was looking of was opinions how this punishment may be reduced, which I beleive is natural, and most people in my position would do the same.
Your right the difference in time between a and b at 101 and 85 is negligable, but 85 is illegal also. But sometimes when your in a rush speeds climb up before you know it, I think most drivers have been guilty of this at some point. This time I was stupid enought to let it happen, and got caught.
As for my car been a old. As Dazren says it was designed to travel at in excess of this speed all day long.
As for putting my employees future at risk, you know nothing about me, so cannot judge on that.
I know I am guilty of this, and I will take what ever punishment is given. All I was looking of was opinions how this punishment may be reduced, which I beleive is natural, and most people in my position would do the same.
Sean
Just ignore the self-righteous judgementalist zealots.
Write a letter of mitigation (better still, get your company secretary to write the letter), explaining your position and the jeopardy your business will be in should you be banned.
Plead guilty, dress smartly, be respectful of the bench and be contrite.
Failing that, a chauffeured car for a month would be a deductable business expense
>> Edited by CarZee on Tuesday 13th April 15:38
Just ignore the self-righteous judgementalist zealots.
Write a letter of mitigation (better still, get your company secretary to write the letter), explaining your position and the jeopardy your business will be in should you be banned.
Plead guilty, dress smartly, be respectful of the bench and be contrite.
Failing that, a chauffeured car for a month would be a deductable business expense
>> Edited by CarZee on Tuesday 13th April 15:38
Carzee
Thanks.
I have been told by my Insurance co and a Lawyer that the ban only counts in the UK. If I go to Europe I can drive there with no issues. So I can get the other half to drive to the port, and once across the channel, I am able to drive again. Anyone know if this is the case?
Thanks.
I have been told by my Insurance co and a Lawyer that the ban only counts in the UK. If I go to Europe I can drive there with no issues. So I can get the other half to drive to the port, and once across the channel, I am able to drive again. Anyone know if this is the case?
seandudding said:Sounds unlikely to me, but if that's what you've been told and you can get it confirmed in writing by your insurance company, then bonus!
I have been told by my Insurance co and a Lawyer that the ban only counts in the UK. If I go to Europe I can drive there with no issues. So I can get the other half to drive to the port, and once across the channel, I am able to drive again. Anyone know if this is the case?
seandudding said:
Carzee
Thanks.
I have been told by my Insurance co and a Lawyer that the ban only counts in the UK. If I go to Europe I can drive there with no issues. So I can get the other half to drive to the port, and once across the channel, I am able to drive again. Anyone know if this is the case?
I believe this is currently the case, but you need to get a certificate of entitlement to drive from the DVLA as your licence will be held by DVLA during the ban.
I think this "feck off to Nurburg and Marbella" for amonth option may be stopped in the future at the same time as the euroscumocrats push through proposals for points picked up abroad in Europe being added to your UK driving licence.
DAZ
seandudding said:
Carzee
Thanks.
I have been told by my Insurance co and a Lawyer that the ban only counts in the UK. If I go to Europe I can drive there with no issues. So I can get the other half to drive to the port, and once across the channel, I am able to drive again. Anyone know if this is the case?
This is the case as you are only disqualified from driving in the UK (Hence, even if you have an overseas licence you are still banned from using them. I have S Korean and UAE licences as well as my UK licence and this is definitely the case), but you need to get the AA or RAC to issue an international driving licence, quoting your UK driving licence number as the court will physically take yours if you are banned.
Hopefully, for 101mph, it won't come to that. I got stopped for 102 on the M3 and pleaded "Partner of a large practice, 30 people out of work if I get banned ya-di-yah-di-yah" and got away with a fine & 6 points
Full sympathy old boy.
Pitiful to be oppressed for what happens millions of times a week on most major arterial UK m-way routes.
It's only a matter of time before I'm in irons so you you're not/won't be alone.
I think my daughter's mock Dyson cleaner does 70 miles an hour.
(Some first class bouts of sanctimony though, top notch Guardianism.)
Pitiful to be oppressed for what happens millions of times a week on most major arterial UK m-way routes.
It's only a matter of time before I'm in irons so you you're not/won't be alone.
I think my daughter's mock Dyson cleaner does 70 miles an hour.
(Some first class bouts of sanctimony though, top notch Guardianism.)
I'm sorry, I know that this is a forum where there are supposed to be exchanges of points of view, but now my mind is a bit boggled! 
A question for the sanctimonious gits spouting off about how wrong it is to do 101 on a clear motorway - what are you doing on this website?? Why aren't you passing your time on some website dedicated to the latest technique in knitting your own yoghurts? You are a very strange strain of PistonHead IMO.
Nel
A question for the sanctimonious gits spouting off about how wrong it is to do 101 on a clear motorway - what are you doing on this website?? Why aren't you passing your time on some website dedicated to the latest technique in knitting your own yoghurts?
You are a very strange strain of PistonHead IMO. Nel
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