What would you do if you were banned?
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Guys
Driving when banned is a about the quickest ticket to what Mrs Thatcher used to call "a short sharp shock" known to man. My mother is a magistrate and it is the recommendation from the LCO that ALL driving whilst disqualified cases should receive a custodial sentance unless there are massive extenuating circumstances (Its the contempt of court angle).
We all know the risks &, what ever we think of the grinning idiot and his mentalist Government, take it on the chin and hire a driver for the duration of the ban
Driving when banned is a about the quickest ticket to what Mrs Thatcher used to call "a short sharp shock" known to man. My mother is a magistrate and it is the recommendation from the LCO that ALL driving whilst disqualified cases should receive a custodial sentance unless there are massive extenuating circumstances (Its the contempt of court angle).
We all know the risks &, what ever we think of the grinning idiot and his mentalist Government, take it on the chin and hire a driver for the duration of the ban
clapham993 said:
Guys
Driving when banned is a about the quickest ticket to what Mrs Thatcher used to call "a short sharp shock" known to man. My mother is a magistrate and it is the recommendation from the LCO that ALL driving whilst disqualified cases should receive a custodial sentance unless there are massive extenuating circumstances (Its the contempt of court angle).
We all know the risks &, what ever we think of the grinning idiot and his mentalist Government, take it on the chin and hire a driver for the duration of the ban
So everyone ends in clink for speeding, then trying to keep food on the family's table
mcflurry said:
Guys
Driving when banned is a about the quickest ticket to what Mrs Thatcher used to call "a short sharp shock" known to man. My mother is a magistrate and it is the recommendation from the LCO that ALL driving whilst disqualified cases should receive a custodial sentance unless there are massive extenuating circumstances (Its the contempt of court angle).
We all know the risks &, what ever we think of the grinning idiot and his mentalist Government, take it on the chin and hire a driver for the duration of the ban
So everyone ends in clink for speeding, then trying to keep food on the family's table
Its nuts, I know, but what do you expect from a Government that appoints a bearded Home Secretary?
clapham993 said:
Guys
Driving when banned is a about the quickest ticket to what Mrs Thatcher used to call "a short sharp shock" known to man. My mother is a magistrate and it is the recommendation from the LCO that ALL driving whilst disqualified cases should receive a custodial sentance unless there are massive extenuating circumstances (Its the contempt of court angle).
We all know the risks &, what ever we think of the grinning idiot and his mentalist Government, take it on the chin and hire a driver for the duration of the ban
Not a single person up for this charge in Ipswich Magistrates Court got anything anywhere near a custodial sentence. A £150 was the worst I saw dished out for that offence.
Muncher said:
Guys
Driving when banned is a about the quickest ticket to what Mrs Thatcher used to call "a short sharp shock" known to man. My mother is a magistrate and it is the recommendation from the LCO that ALL driving whilst disqualified cases should receive a custodial sentance unless there are massive extenuating circumstances (Its the contempt of court angle).
We all know the risks &, what ever we think of the grinning idiot and his mentalist Government, take it on the chin and hire a driver for the duration of the ban
Not a single person up for this charge in Ipswich Magistrates Court got anything anywhere near a custodial sentence. A £150 was the worst I saw dished out for that offence.
Very surprising - the LCO guidelines are, apparently, very clear on this
I'm waiting for a court date for totting up, i will lose everything if i'm banned. for what?
last two NIPs.
82mph in perfect conditions on a quiet dual carraigeway conducting a safe overtaking manouvre. Scamera van waiting round ther corner.
49mph in a 40mph on a quiet duel carraigeay exiting Aberdeen, 50 metres before an NSL.
I am in a desperate situation. Is it no wonder that a law abiding citizen with no criminal record has to think about such actions.
last two NIPs.
82mph in perfect conditions on a quiet dual carraigeway conducting a safe overtaking manouvre. Scamera van waiting round ther corner.
49mph in a 40mph on a quiet duel carraigeay exiting Aberdeen, 50 metres before an NSL.
I am in a desperate situation. Is it no wonder that a law abiding citizen with no criminal record has to think about such actions.
clapham993 said:
Guys
Driving when banned is a about the quickest ticket to what Mrs Thatcher used to call "a short sharp shock" known to man. My mother is a magistrate and it is the recommendation from the LCO that ALL driving whilst disqualified cases should receive a custodial sentance unless there are massive extenuating circumstances (Its the contempt of court angle).
Hmmmmm...
www.metro.co.uk/metro/weird/article.html?in_page_id=4&in_article_id=16716
To give a bit of legal food for thought on some of the points raised:
1) The Eire Insurance scam - This amounts to Obtaining a Pecuniary Advantage by Deception. An arrestable offence, which could well result in some serious punishment, especially when you consider that the intention behind it is tantamount to an attempt to pervert the course of justice. (Don't get me wrong - PCJ would never stick).
2) Disqual Driving - also arrestable. And, unlike a few years ago, you don't have to be caught doing it either, to get arrested - BiB can knock your door a week/month later and lift you. Perhaps I should mention bail. The Custody Sergeant will have to consider this when you are charged. Personally, having booked in 700+ prisoners in the last year, anyone before me for their second disqual within their ban doesn't get bail. They are kept in for the next COurt, which means if you're unlucky enough to be nicked on a Saturday afternoon - Monday morning. This is on the basis that I would have reasonable grounds to belive that they will commit offences on bail. Or in short, they are taking the p1$$.
My best advice to anyone who does decide to drive after being banned is this:
1) Change your car. To something bland.
2) Check your lights every week, don't speed or otherwise drive like a tw@t. Many a drink or disqual driver is caught by being pulled for a minor indiscretion.
3) Do not tell a soul about your ban. Lots of people get nicked due to people grassing them up, which may lead to point 4, below.
4) If you can really swing it - move to another force area, therby minimising the risk of your local friebdly proactive Road Policing Unit sitting up on your H/A and keeping a beady eye on you.
1) The Eire Insurance scam - This amounts to Obtaining a Pecuniary Advantage by Deception. An arrestable offence, which could well result in some serious punishment, especially when you consider that the intention behind it is tantamount to an attempt to pervert the course of justice. (Don't get me wrong - PCJ would never stick).
2) Disqual Driving - also arrestable. And, unlike a few years ago, you don't have to be caught doing it either, to get arrested - BiB can knock your door a week/month later and lift you. Perhaps I should mention bail. The Custody Sergeant will have to consider this when you are charged. Personally, having booked in 700+ prisoners in the last year, anyone before me for their second disqual within their ban doesn't get bail. They are kept in for the next COurt, which means if you're unlucky enough to be nicked on a Saturday afternoon - Monday morning. This is on the basis that I would have reasonable grounds to belive that they will commit offences on bail. Or in short, they are taking the p1$$.
My best advice to anyone who does decide to drive after being banned is this:
1) Change your car. To something bland.
2) Check your lights every week, don't speed or otherwise drive like a tw@t. Many a drink or disqual driver is caught by being pulled for a minor indiscretion.
3) Do not tell a soul about your ban. Lots of people get nicked due to people grassing them up, which may lead to point 4, below.
4) If you can really swing it - move to another force area, therby minimising the risk of your local friebdly proactive Road Policing Unit sitting up on your H/A and keeping a beady eye on you.
In my 18 year driving career I've been totally legal the whole time. Had I faked my name and address and driven without insurance or tax in a stolen car with copied numberplates I'd be able to afford a house in a tax haven like the Isle of Man. But I was brought up to DO WHAT is RIGHT !
If I were banned I'd have to get the first train from Formby to Hutts Cross and then get on my push iron and cycle over the runcorn bridge all the way over the M56 to where I work. I reckon it would take me 1 and a 1/2 hours to get to work.
Unfortunately you can't take a bike on Mersey Rail in the rush hour so I'd need to leave one bike locked up at Hunts Cross and one at Formby.
Business trips would have to be taken using taxi's, public transport and with collegues, but I made them delete that bit of my Terms and conditions of employment before I joined.
But I would be fitter and healthier.
If I were banned I'd have to get the first train from Formby to Hutts Cross and then get on my push iron and cycle over the runcorn bridge all the way over the M56 to where I work. I reckon it would take me 1 and a 1/2 hours to get to work.
Unfortunately you can't take a bike on Mersey Rail in the rush hour so I'd need to leave one bike locked up at Hunts Cross and one at Formby.
Business trips would have to be taken using taxi's, public transport and with collegues, but I made them delete that bit of my Terms and conditions of employment before I joined.
But I would be fitter and healthier.
Cooperman1 said:
However, even with bad luck it should not come to that as it is easy to get an S.Irish licence if your UK one got, say, six points. All you need is an Irish address (not that difficult - think about it a bit) then buy a car in Ireland (or re-register your UK car there)and tax and insure it there.
Bit late on this one but... if you re-reg a car here in Ireland, you have to pay 30% Vehicle registration tax... yes 30%!!! That's 30% of the book value, not the actual. Also, insurance can be frighteningly expensive over here. Still, not a bad idea all the same! The minimum was IR£300. So that's gonna be abot Eur400 whatever that is in sterling.
Also, we now have points here too, so I'd say they'll transfer over onto your new Irish licence. On top of all that we also have the NCT test (same deal as MOT minus the schemers)... you'll be asked for that when taxing your new car as MOT isn't transferable. Thanks to Europe, the web of red tape has begun to hit us in a big way
Muncher said:
As a hypothetical question, what would you do if you were banned from driving?
I have been banned before. I used taxis, waited for trains and blagged lifts of friends BUT I NEVER considered driving even 100 feet! I did think about having my Se7en taken to a trackday for me but it was the winter time anyway.
However if I was banned again, I think I might move to the Isle of Man
>> Edited by knowley on Tuesday 13th April 18:04
If I received a ban I would not drive.
I do not intend to receive a ban - but I suppose it could happen - one just needs to be unlucky whilst quite deliberately breaking the law.
Dr Don's Point Avoidance Scheme:
1) Do not enter a speed limit above the speed limit.
2) Do not accelerate towards a speed limit sign - wait until you are past.
3) Do not speed somewhere you do not know the road.
4) Do not come around a blind/reduced visibility corner or crest faster than the speed limit...
5) Keep your eyes peeled - do not pass GATSOs above the speed limit even if your detector says it isn't on.
6) On dual carriageways and very wide A roads where 100mph is easily possible but with a 50 limit. Stick to 50 - its a trick and they want your money.
I do not intend to receive a ban - but I suppose it could happen - one just needs to be unlucky whilst quite deliberately breaking the law.
Dr Don's Point Avoidance Scheme:
1) Do not enter a speed limit above the speed limit.
2) Do not accelerate towards a speed limit sign - wait until you are past.
3) Do not speed somewhere you do not know the road.
4) Do not come around a blind/reduced visibility corner or crest faster than the speed limit...
5) Keep your eyes peeled - do not pass GATSOs above the speed limit even if your detector says it isn't on.
6) On dual carriageways and very wide A roads where 100mph is easily possible but with a 50 limit. Stick to 50 - its a trick and they want your money.
xxplod said:
Personally, having booked in 700+ prisoners in the last year, anyone before me for their second disqual within their ban doesn't get bail.
Not getting bail isn't exactly serious. Some of us like a few days off from her indoors !
xxplod said:
They are kept in for the next COurt, which means if you're unlucky enough to be nicked on a Saturday afternoon - Monday morning.
Oh wow - one Saturday night down the pub missed. Tears in my eyes.
xxplod said:
This is on the basis that I would have reasonable grounds to belive that they will commit offences on bail. Or in short, they are taking the p1$$.
Not exactly serious is it ?
When they get to court, they either get silly small prison sentences, where half the time is out on tag, or much more likely, they get fined, which they don't pay anyway.
Mate of mine just got done for drink driving, not for the first time, not for the second time, not for the third time, but for the fourth time.
Chuck the book at him, I should coco.
We all thought he'd get six months in the big Windsor hotel, but because the prisons are full, he got off with a ban and a large fine.
Since he's banned, he can't work, so he can't pay the fine.
My understanding is that he drove home from court.
What kind of justice system is that ?
He badly needs six months inside to get his head sorted out, I'm willing to pay extra taxes to build the prisons, why isn't it happening ?
xxplod said:
My best advice to anyone who does decide to drive after being banned is this:
1) Change your car. To something bland.
2) Check your lights every week, don't speed or otherwise drive like a tw@t. Many a drink or disqual driver is caught by being pulled for a minor indiscretion.
3) Do not tell a soul about your ban. Lots of people get nicked due to people grassing them up, which may lead to point 4, below.
4) If you can really swing it - move to another force area, therby minimising the risk of your local friebdly proactive Road Policing Unit sitting up on your H/A and keeping a beady eye on you.
Beady eye !
Most drivers round here have defective lights, drive like idiots and routinely speed at more than 20 mph over the limit. If you behaved yourself, you'd really stand out !
It's only a couple of weeks back the local cop shop decided it would be a good idea to stay open after 9 pm.
Don't get me wrong, I like coppers, I think prison works. Lots of money is being chucked at the problem and wasted as well as very few results being produced.
18% solved burglaries nationally, and my community charge has just gone up 6% this year and 18% last.
Bitter ? Not me.
nonegreen said:
I really enjoy meeting the likes of you Non-Green,
24 years experience rarely sees me coming off worse and at worst I will swagger away at least one ticket lighter! I'm getting real
I bet you wear shades, and the hat and everything don't you?
There you go again. Big Big assumption.
You don't even know what I do other than I am obviously a Police Officer.
I do wear somethings though
I only wear a hat under the most provocative of circumstances and you probably have never even seen the type I am talking about for real! Oh and as far as the glasses go, Sometimes when its particularly bright. They are Rayban and paid for out of your Talivan contributions, Cheers mate
The sad thing is that under the current points mean prizes system, disqualified and therefore uninsured driving will go up.
Simple choice, buy an old inconspicous motor, take a risk and put food in the families mouth or let them starve on welfare.
It's not a good choice, but one more and more people will have to make. I just hope I don't have another one hit me and try to leg it.
Simple choice, buy an old inconspicous motor, take a risk and put food in the families mouth or let them starve on welfare.
It's not a good choice, but one more and more people will have to make. I just hope I don't have another one hit me and try to leg it.
gone said:
gone said:
I really enjoy meeting the likes of you Non-Green,
24 years experience rarely sees me coming off worse and at worst I will swagger away at least one ticket lighter! I'm getting real
hey you know Rayban`s are way to tackey thease days.
everyones wereing em
I bet you wear shades, and the hat and everything don't you?
There you go again. Big Big assumption.
You don't even know what I do other than I am obviously a Police Officer.
I do wear somethings though
I only wear a hat under the most provocative of circumstances and you probably have never even seen the type I am talking about for real! Oh and as far as the glasses go, Sometimes when its particularly bright. They are Rayban and paid for out of your Talivan contributions, Cheers mate
gone said:
gone said:
I really enjoy meeting the likes of you Non-Green,
24 years experience rarely sees me coming off worse and at worst I will swagger away at least one ticket lighter! I'm getting real
I bet you wear shades, and the hat and everything don't you?
There you go again. Big Big assumption.
You don't even know what I do other than I am obviously a Police Officer.
I do wear somethings though
I only wear a hat under the most provocative of circumstances and you probably have never even seen the type I am talking about for real! Oh and as far as the glasses go, Sometimes when its particularly bright. They are Rayban and paid for out of your Talivan contributions, Cheers mate
Mine are Armani
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