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saaby93 said:
and then texting while in control of a vehicle
Car was out of gear, and handbrake was on. Does that still count?Does the engine have to be off? Surely not.
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 12th November 00:35
ETA: "The law states that it is illegal to ride a motorbike or drive a car while you are using a hand held communication device"
I was not driving the car at the time, therefore I have nothing to worry about.
"texting while in control of a vehicle"
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 12th November 00:39
Blukoo said:
saaby93 said:
and then texting while in control of a vehicle
Car was out of gear, and handbrake was on. Does that still count?Does the engine have to be off? Surely not.
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 12th November 00:35
ETA: "The law states that it is illegal to ride a motorbike or drive a car while you are using a hand held communication device"
I was not driving the car at the time, therefore I have nothing to worry about.
"texting while in control of a vehicle"
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 12th November 00:39
Blukoo said:
EDLT said:
So you were texting while illegally parked.
You do realise that when you lose you'll have an increased fine AND you'll have to pay for court costs. The police won't lose anything.
I'm in Scotland. We don't pay court costs.You do realise that when you lose you'll have an increased fine AND you'll have to pay for court costs. The police won't lose anything.
Yes, technically I was texting while illegally parked, but I wasn't aware I was parked illegaly at the time. Also, I thought they might have been a little easier on me because I actually pulled over to text.
deevlash said:
What exactly do you hope to achieve at court?!
Maybe they'll trade the points for a larger fine.Edited by Blukoo on Thursday 11th November 23:58
But i agree it was a real s
tty way to get 3 points ,the fine fair enough. Its one of those situations i would have thought a copper could have made the choice of a stiff word and on your way.... maybe he was on his probationary period and wasnt allowed to use his judgementRollcage said:
Blukoo said:
saaby93 said:
and then texting while in control of a vehicle
Car was out of gear, and handbrake was on. Does that still count?Does the engine have to be off? Surely not.
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 12th November 00:35
ETA: "The law states that it is illegal to ride a motorbike or drive a car while you are using a hand held communication device"
I was not driving the car at the time, therefore I have nothing to worry about.
"texting while in control of a vehicle"
Edited by Blukoo on Friday 12th November 00:39
So you're pissed, and want somewhere to sleep, you know you're car is close, sit in the back, sleep.
If you are in a vehicle with the keys, you are in control of it. so you cant be prosecuted for all sorts.
At the end of the day, you parked illegally so that you could break the law.
and then you wonder why the police weren't your best mate liked you'd hoped
Read/drempt/just made up that the engine must be off, with the keys removed from the ignition before you can use the phone.*
Find out what size the zig zags must be and then measure the ones where you got done. If they are not correctly marked, then they can't do you.
If this works, put the £60 towards the eye test!
Find out what size the zig zags must be and then measure the ones where you got done. If they are not correctly marked, then they can't do you.
If this works, put the £60 towards the eye test!
- In the interest of safety, don't do this whilst the vehicle is in motion whilst I'm out on my bike!
What's the world coming to when someone who breaks the law can't admit it and take it on the chin.
You made an error, and you broke the law. That's it, simple, take the points and pay the fine.
There is no excuse, you can't say 'I didn't see, or I didn't know'.
Would you use the same excuse if you broke the speed limit, 'oh i didn't know the speed limit', or 'oh i didn't see the kid crossing'.
Didn't see or not knowing is not a valid reason.
You clearly have no expirience with courts, and even if you tried to defend it, don't bother attending court without a solicitor.
Take it on the chin and admit you were in the wrong.
Timewaster.
You made an error, and you broke the law. That's it, simple, take the points and pay the fine.
There is no excuse, you can't say 'I didn't see, or I didn't know'.
Would you use the same excuse if you broke the speed limit, 'oh i didn't know the speed limit', or 'oh i didn't see the kid crossing'.
Didn't see or not knowing is not a valid reason.
You clearly have no expirience with courts, and even if you tried to defend it, don't bother attending court without a solicitor.
Take it on the chin and admit you were in the wrong.
Timewaster.
80s Matchbox said:
Blukoo said:
stevoknevo said:
Done bang to rights for parking on zig-zags. There must be a pedestrian crossing out of sight to the left of the photo. Had you parked 50m further on you would have been fine. Take it on the chin for parking outside of your highway code knowledge.
As I said in the original text, there is a crossing, but I had pulled over far enough away not to cause any obstruction or inconvenience.The image above does show and empty parking spot, but all spaces were full tonight.
I'd also like to add, this was about 21:30 tonight, and the roads were very quiet. Very little moving cars or pedestrians.
I thought the majority of PH's members would back someone trying to argue a case such as this.
d.OP, good luck as you'll need it.
OP. Just to echo the other posts here. Whether you felt it was safe to stop there or not is completely irrelevant. The only relevancy is that you were stopped on zigzags. Illegaly. The zigzags could be painted randomly in the middle of nowhere, but stopping on them is still an offence.
I'm really not sure what you are hoping to achieve by going to court. Yes, the officer was maybe a little harsh with handing out points & a fine when a stiff talking to would achieve the same result, but at the end of the day, you broke the law & he caught you bang to rights. You also intimate that your engine was running while you were sending a text. This is also illegal, so to be honest, if I were you, I would cut my losses, be thankful that you didn't get slapped with a (completely lawful, if not appropriate) DWDCA ticket as well & notch it up to experience.
Really, don't go court. You will not win & just look like a numpty.
I'm really not sure what you are hoping to achieve by going to court. Yes, the officer was maybe a little harsh with handing out points & a fine when a stiff talking to would achieve the same result, but at the end of the day, you broke the law & he caught you bang to rights. You also intimate that your engine was running while you were sending a text. This is also illegal, so to be honest, if I were you, I would cut my losses, be thankful that you didn't get slapped with a (completely lawful, if not appropriate) DWDCA ticket as well & notch it up to experience.
Really, don't go court. You will not win & just look like a numpty.
Stryke said:
Would you use the same excuse if you broke the speed limit, 'oh i didn't know the speed limit', or 'oh i didn't see the kid crossing'.
Oh FFS - PLEASE THINK OF THE KIDS AND THOSE NASTY SPEEDING DRIVERS.Begone Brake Troll creature and never return!
(OP is still a puppet for parking illegally however).
ok so the OP was/is a numptie and was lucky not to get 6 points
If he goes to court and says he parked on zigzags and he was texting - he's banged to rights
However no bunnies dies in the making of this thread - he's had the wake up call about the law
The police let him off about the texting, he should keep zipped smiley about that
Stopping on zigzags is a
but there was another thread a while back about them being marked incorrectly.
If he goes to court and says he parked on zigzags and he was texting - he's banged to rights
However no bunnies dies in the making of this thread - he's had the wake up call about the law
The police let him off about the texting, he should keep zipped smiley about that
Stopping on zigzags is a
but there was another thread a while back about them being marked incorrectly.Accept the fine and pay up, tad unlucky but you'll never win that, I thought parking on zig zags being a shooting offence was well known.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...
That's pretty close to a crossing by the looks of things.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...
That's pretty close to a crossing by the looks of things.
I do wonder sometimes if officers North of the border can be more pedantic? Discuss.
Certainly if they then took the time to examine your car afterwards, it would seem that either your car interested them, or you did, or you simply failed the attitude test.
I'm not sure what you plan on gaining by going to court, experience perhaps? Certainly when the court sees the evidence that you were stopped and parked, albeit for short period, on the lines, presumably close to a pedestrian crossing, they can hardly find you 'not guilty'.
Certainly if they then took the time to examine your car afterwards, it would seem that either your car interested them, or you did, or you simply failed the attitude test.
I'm not sure what you plan on gaining by going to court, experience perhaps? Certainly when the court sees the evidence that you were stopped and parked, albeit for short period, on the lines, presumably close to a pedestrian crossing, they can hardly find you 'not guilty'.
In all fairness, yes, it was a simple mistake and one that probably wasn't causing any issues to any other road users. However, you've already admitted to being in the wrong, so contesting this would be pretty stupid, given the circumstances.
The police will have you in a catch 22 with this one anyway. As law states that making a call or using a phone in the car has to be done with the engine off, you are therefore doing one of two things. If your engine is off, you are parked illegally on the zig-zag markings. If your engine is running, you are using your phone whilst in control of a vehicle. Either one is fit for the penalty you received and trying to contest one or the other, or both will just make you look like an incompetent driver and waste both yours and the courts time.
I'd take it as a lesson learned and understand that posting your frustrations over a mistake that you clearly knew you made, doesn't always win you support on a motoring forum.
The police will have you in a catch 22 with this one anyway. As law states that making a call or using a phone in the car has to be done with the engine off, you are therefore doing one of two things. If your engine is off, you are parked illegally on the zig-zag markings. If your engine is running, you are using your phone whilst in control of a vehicle. Either one is fit for the penalty you received and trying to contest one or the other, or both will just make you look like an incompetent driver and waste both yours and the courts time.
I'd take it as a lesson learned and understand that posting your frustrations over a mistake that you clearly knew you made, doesn't always win you support on a motoring forum.
Shame the police didn't show a little bit of common sense and let you move on immediately upon offering.
Attitude test fail? Or is it a case of an easy ticket for them to write up? I suspect the latter.
Attitude test fail? Or is it a case of an easy ticket for them to write up? I suspect the latter.
80s Matchbox said:
The only thing that you can guarantee on PH is that there will be a herd of these galloping on in...
Seems that way. Amazingly all owners of such animals here in PH seem utter bellends.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff