Police clock driver at 150mph
Discussion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3683441.stm
What a meaningless comparison from the Brydie woman:
"Isobel Brydie, spokeswoman for the Scottish Campaign against Irresponsible Drivers (SCID), branded the driver as "completely mad".
She said: "Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street.
"It's absolute madness to drive at that speed and there can be no possible excuse for it.""
Fiona
What a meaningless comparison from the Brydie woman:
"Isobel Brydie, spokeswoman for the Scottish Campaign against Irresponsible Drivers (SCID), branded the driver as "completely mad".
She said: "Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street.
"It's absolute madness to drive at that speed and there can be no possible excuse for it.""
Fiona
DarwinI bet it was an empty road as so many others were over the ton, but no one would have blinked an eyelid in Germany, the car was most probably of the Panzer Saloon variety more than capable of driving at those speeds all day in complete safety.
But as for being on the phone, thats just put a nail in his coffin.
But as for being on the phone, thats just put a nail in his coffin.
wit.
article said:
Police revealed that 10% of the 200 caught were being driven at speeds of more than 100mph.
So 100mph is approximately the 85th centile then.
article -- AA man said:
He added: "I find this absolutely shocking that someone would drive with such disregard for their own safety and the safety of others.
Their own safety is their concern. If it was unsafe for others then a charge other than speeding would be appropriate.
article -- AA man said:
"Not only is it near impossible to control a car at such a ridiculous speed it is beggars belief that they were on a mobile phone at the time."
Mobile phone use does seem unwise. But is it really "impossible" to control a car at 150mph? Surely it depends on the driver and the car? Impossible for a Metro perhaps, but not a Ferrari/TVR/etc. Sweeping emotive statements....
article -- SCID lady said:
She said: "Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street.
Depends on traffic density, road conditions, observational skills, etc. Firing a gun in a crowded street is not the same. This was a "Brunstrom moment" for this lady.
article -- police said:
Chief Inspector Bob Farmer, from Fife's road policing department, said: "This beggars belief given that at such a high speed, any slight distraction could be fatal both for the driver and any innocent motorists who are safely travelling within the speed limits.
So driving within the speed limit automatically confers "innocence" and "safety" to the driver. That's good to know.
Junior Mint said:Thats a pretty good analogy; we are not told how the shotgun was discharged.
She said: "Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street.
If it had been fired straight upwards then presumably no harm would have come to anyone......
jeremyc said:Ph, I don't know. The pellets would individually return to earth at some considerable velocity (although probably less than muzzle velocity (typicaly in the range 800-2,000 fps depending on charge, load and bore). However, there must be considerable potential for penetration of flesh and bone (skull) from the falling pellets. Anyone know the terminal velocity for 36gm steel #4 shot?
She said: "Driving a car at that speed carries the same danger as discharging a shotgun in a crowded street.
Thats a pretty good analogy; we are not told how the shotgun was discharged.
If it had been fired straight upwards then presumably no harm would have come to anyone......
Streaky
streaky said:
However, there must be considerable potential for penetration of flesh and bone (skull) from the falling pellets. Anyone know the terminal velocity for 36gm steel #4 shot?
Streaky
Well, taking standard Eley 4 gauge 36grm shot, discharged at 1200fps....
36-(x+y)<tan)/4+(a-b)/cos+1200x3.142+x= 847mph (approx).......
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Interesting. Unlike many of the other high profile 'big speed' cases recently, this guy was definately caught on camera.
So;
What was he NIPped for?
If dangerous, no requirement to return the form, Stott v Brown (Jail is possible).
Also, if prosecuted for dangerous and he elects for a jury trial, the form is not admissable.
If speeding, max £1K + ban.
>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Wednesday 5th May 11:13
So;
What was he NIPped for?
If dangerous, no requirement to return the form, Stott v Brown (Jail is possible).
Also, if prosecuted for dangerous and he elects for a jury trial, the form is not admissable.
If speeding, max £1K + ban.
>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Wednesday 5th May 11:13
The complainants in the onslaught against speedy motorised conveyance are akin to mediaeval, religious zealots.
Their intolerance for notions of great velocities at all betrays their fundamental ludditism.
The spin given to this debate 'on behalf' of society by our apparent representatives in the media and political life is doing the progress of man such an unfathomable disservice that like political correction itself, the average person has been bamboozled into professing things publicly which ultimately, they almost certainly don't believe in or practice.
People on PH talk with moderation about speed limits and yet any trip along any motorway today (M25 excepted) will reveal legions of perfectly sane individuals flying along at between 90 and 110 mph.
Why? Because they can and they know that in 99.99% of situations it is simply not an issue in the slightest.
An interesting programme on the history of London the other day covered the obsessive, early adoption of the underground by citizens in the mid 19th century; like trains on a wider basis, the speed and convenience offered was a societal revelation and one which economically, transformed both our fortunes and most of the world's too. People loved it: speed, freedom, convenience - the upwards surge of man - rather natural predisposition, surely?
That that fundamental spirit of wanting to push barriers generally is now so chronically manacled by the namby pampy preventatists that so ravage the protagonists of free motoring, represents a fundamental betrayal of our forefathers' industry: it is frankly nothing short of treachery and should be dismissed with immense, governmental contempt.
It's been said many times before but a political party which abandonned the ubiquitous constraints of blanket speed limitation and the grotesque persecution thereafter would find immense favour with the population at large.
Even if you didn't get that impression becuase a vocal, bitter minority of courdroy wearing mueslites vomitted otherwise.
The fact that a modest romp like this illicits such condemnation is a damning indictment of our socity's all-too feeble contemporary constraints.
Pitiful.
Their intolerance for notions of great velocities at all betrays their fundamental ludditism.
The spin given to this debate 'on behalf' of society by our apparent representatives in the media and political life is doing the progress of man such an unfathomable disservice that like political correction itself, the average person has been bamboozled into professing things publicly which ultimately, they almost certainly don't believe in or practice.
People on PH talk with moderation about speed limits and yet any trip along any motorway today (M25 excepted) will reveal legions of perfectly sane individuals flying along at between 90 and 110 mph.
Why? Because they can and they know that in 99.99% of situations it is simply not an issue in the slightest.
An interesting programme on the history of London the other day covered the obsessive, early adoption of the underground by citizens in the mid 19th century; like trains on a wider basis, the speed and convenience offered was a societal revelation and one which economically, transformed both our fortunes and most of the world's too. People loved it: speed, freedom, convenience - the upwards surge of man - rather natural predisposition, surely?
That that fundamental spirit of wanting to push barriers generally is now so chronically manacled by the namby pampy preventatists that so ravage the protagonists of free motoring, represents a fundamental betrayal of our forefathers' industry: it is frankly nothing short of treachery and should be dismissed with immense, governmental contempt.
It's been said many times before but a political party which abandonned the ubiquitous constraints of blanket speed limitation and the grotesque persecution thereafter would find immense favour with the population at large.
Even if you didn't get that impression becuase a vocal, bitter minority of courdroy wearing mueslites vomitted otherwise.
The fact that a modest romp like this illicits such condemnation is a damning indictment of our socity's all-too feeble contemporary constraints.
Pitiful.
psimpson7 said:
it doesnt really have any force on the way back down... like hail / rain
Quite. I've shot at a sporting ground where the stands were arranged in a semicircle facing inwards, and there was a steady patter of shot falling out of the sky, like leaden (it was a while ago) rain.
article -- AA man said:Oh dear. I guess we had better impose speed limits on all Police drivers and racing drivers then.
"Not only is it near impossible to control a car at such a ridiculous speed..."
I've had the Corrado up to 140mph before now (on a private runway, obviously) and even cornered at those speeds, and I didn't even find it difficult to control the car let alone "near impossible".
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