Police clock driver at 150mph
Discussion
I have to say this entire thread has confused me...I didnt realise pistonheads was an area where we defended anyone breaking the law in a car - whether we know the rights or wrongs or whatever.
I cant be arsed, but I know damn well I could find several threads where some of the people on this thread banged on about w**kers on mobile phones, tossers, bad as drunk drivers etc.. etc..
And yet now most are going on about how dare they throw the book at this guy - or just arguing over the semantics of what was said on the bbc website (oh and whats written isn't necessairly close to what was actually said)
This is why there will never be a serious chance that speed limits will be changed. Its just like when they bring up a 'lets legalise canabis' debate - they always manage to find some retarded 17 year old saying !"well i drive wikked stoned" - and it automatically puts the 'cause' back ten years.
Same as when people on here say "Im perfectly safe at 150, it isn't dangerous" - just cause the sort of knee-jerk reactions we want to avoid.....
Night
I cant be arsed, but I know damn well I could find several threads where some of the people on this thread banged on about w**kers on mobile phones, tossers, bad as drunk drivers etc.. etc..
And yet now most are going on about how dare they throw the book at this guy - or just arguing over the semantics of what was said on the bbc website (oh and whats written isn't necessairly close to what was actually said)
This is why there will never be a serious chance that speed limits will be changed. Its just like when they bring up a 'lets legalise canabis' debate - they always manage to find some retarded 17 year old saying !"well i drive wikked stoned" - and it automatically puts the 'cause' back ten years.
Same as when people on here say "Im perfectly safe at 150, it isn't dangerous" - just cause the sort of knee-jerk reactions we want to avoid.....
Night
Nightmare said:
I have to say this entire thread has confused me...I didnt realise pistonheads was an area where we defended anyone breaking the law in a car - whether we know the rights or wrongs or whatever.
I cant be arsed, but I know damn well I could find several threads where some of the people on this thread banged on about w**kers on mobile phones, tossers, bad as drunk drivers etc.. etc..
And yet now most are going on about how dare they throw the book at this guy - or just arguing over the semantics of what was said on the bbc website (oh and whats written isn't necessairly close to what was actually said)
This is why there will never be a serious chance that speed limits will be changed. Its just like when they bring up a 'lets legalise canabis' debate - they always manage to find some retarded 17 year old saying !"well i drive wikked stoned" - and it automatically puts the 'cause' back ten years.
Same as when people on here say "Im perfectly safe at 150, it isn't dangerous" - just cause the sort of knee-jerk reactions we want to avoid.....
Night
I think what people on this site mainly want to argue against is those who express knee-jerk reactions against a certain speed just because of the speed in question, without their knowing the circumstances. Speed should be appropriate to the circumstances, the actual speed does not matter. It's a simple message, but it's difficult to ram it home. This is why the blanket speed limits we have are inappropriate and becoming more so the lower they get.
the faster one travels, the more they concentrate on the road ahead and are aware of their surroundings (unless they're complete idiots, in which case they couldn't normally afford a fast car in the first instance) so this coupled with the fact that someone travelling 150mph would spend approx 1/2 the time on the road when compared to a 75mph driver, leads me to believe that there was nothing unsafe in this little misdemeanour..,
nothing illegal with trying to swat a fly on his ear with the phone neither.... actually, now that you mentioned it, I think i should represent the guy
nothing illegal with trying to swat a fly on his ear with the phone neither.... actually, now that you mentioned it, I think i should represent the guy
Peter Ward said:
article -- AA man said:
"Not only is it near impossible to control a car at such a ridiculous speed it is beggars belief that they were on a mobile phone at the time."
Mobile phone use does seem unwise. But is it really "impossible" to control a car at 150mph? Surely it depends on the driver and the car? Impossible for a Metro perhaps, but not a Ferrari/TVR/etc. Sweeping emotive statements....
Perhaps said AA man needs to be taken to Le Mans and placed beside the Mulsanne for 24 hours before he comes out with such b*ll*ocks!
I've driven at indicated speeds as high as that (real speed probably only 140ish, taking speedo error into account), in Jags, Bims and big Vauxhalls and the cars were perfectly stable and controllable. Would have probably taken half a mile to stop, mind you, and a blowout wouldn't bear thinking about.
Martin S said:
and a blowout wouldn't bear thinking about.
Not really. Blowouts or rapid deflation happens on ractracks at higher speeds. Front rapid deflation happened to me in a Cosworth while overtaking someone at err....... a safe speed in an NSL. Obviously a concern as you cannot easily impose forces through the deflated wheel for steering or braking. But at only 120 mile/h there is 300G at the tyre periphery which temds to hold the wheel up and stop it from digging in.
Its not as bad as the numpties would have one believe
my god you lot moan about some rubbish.
the bloke was a tool driving too fast. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would set the UK limit at 150 so there is no defence even for the "70 is too slow" mob.
who cares what the cops said about shot guns...it was just a comment......what they should have said was this blokes a twat and hes up shite creek now....although you'd probably moan about how it should be a stream and how we dont have creeks in the UK.
the bloke was a tool driving too fast. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would set the UK limit at 150 so there is no defence even for the "70 is too slow" mob.
who cares what the cops said about shot guns...it was just a comment......what they should have said was this blokes a twat and hes up shite creek now....although you'd probably moan about how it should be a stream and how we dont have creeks in the UK.
Tiggsy said:
NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would set the UK limit at 150 so there is no defence even for the "70 is too slow" mob.
I wouldn't set a limit. And I'd probably nail this bloke for not driving with due care (most likely if he was on the blower).
The fact that a lot of people were doing 100+ should indicate that conditions were good.....
Tiggsy said:
my god you lot moan about some rubbish.
the bloke was a tool driving too fast. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would set the UK limit at 150 so there is no defence even for the "70 is too slow" mob.
who cares what the cops said about shot guns...it was just a comment......what they should have said was this blokes a twat and hes up shite creek now....although you'd probably moan about how it should be a stream and how we dont have creeks in the UK.
Spot-on Tiggsy
With this sort of person around unfortunately the camera lobby will always have a big grin on their faces
Tiggsy said:
the bloke was a tool driving too fast. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would set the UK limit at 150 so there is no defence even for the "70 is too slow" mob.
Who says he was "going too fast"? Too fast for what exactly?
150's too fast ya say? How bout the autobahns then? Faster even than that. Is that "too fast" as well?
70's too slow.
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