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Colvette

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844 posts

248 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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New design based on the original bumper...

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 20th April 2004
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Colvette said:
I wanna stand out with my custom vette.

The mod vs don't debate is always a good one to bring out strong opinions either way. I just like the fact that any Vette stands out from the crowd in this country.

Dee Gee

285 posts

243 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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It's a good job were all different otherwise we'd still have a Model T in black! IMHO anything you do should compliment the car, not go for a pseudo Porsche, Ferrari or whatever.

Still like No 1 of all the designs. Strong variation on the original theme but obviously still Vette.

V8 ETE

387 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Your latest attempt, is a lot better than your first design, only because it still looks like a vette front.

If you want to see what a mess someone made customising (imho) a tvr cerbera, there is a gold coloured one on the tvr forum somewhere it's a right mess!

>> Edited by V8 ETE on Wednesday 21st April 08:19

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Now I'm getting confused because that Porsche one is growing on me. LOL.

The difficulty is finding the line between a good modification, an excessive modification and a too subtle modification. Looking at the last one, it strikes me that being a low car, no-one will see the modification ie it's a lot of money for no-one to notice. You'd notice it parked next to another C5 but otherwise...?

What does the front of the Le Mans car look like? Alternatively, you could create a more retro look by constructing something based on the lower panel of the C2 or early C3's???

Can't get that second Porsche version out of my head now! Weird because I don't like Porsches. The answer is to go for what you want because it's your money and no-one else really matters but as I have so brilliantly demonstrated, you have to spend a lot of time coming back to various designs before you can be truly satisfied that you're always going to be happy with it. But if you go for that Porsche-style thingy (which of course has no lights in this version), better to redesign it so it doesn't look so obviously like a Porsche.

Colvette

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844 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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I tend to think that all of them kinda grow on you after a while. Some of them ain't that well executed on the pictures (particularly the ferrari and lambo ones), but I think they would fit.

The second porsche-alike one looks good to me - I'd need to put more work into it, as I want to use the stock lights, so it wouldn't look like that in the end, but I was trying to get a feel for people's opinions on them.

This was never the case of me just trying to rip off another design - perhaps I should have explained this eariler - it was trying to get an idea of what people warmed to the best, then working on it to find something which worked for me too.

I don't want to make my vette look like a porsche, and I think, based on the shape of the vette vs. the porsche, it'd be an impossible feat even if I did go for it. What I want is a much more stubby front end (not so long and pointy), with much bigger vents. I want the vette to snarl, which at the moment, I don't think it does.

The 360 modena version I figured might bring visions of the C3 back, but I fear my execution of it lets the idea down. Never mind. Perhaps I'll have another go at it...

malc350

1,035 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Col, any idea who will be moulding the front end? Sounds like it's gonna come to a couple of quid!

By the feedback on some of your designs, maybe it could be an idea to see if anyone else wants a similar front end and bring the cost down.

Now if anyone could design a back end for a C5 that would be an achievment...

P.S. regarding that TVR is it the one that had me on the floor laughing...

www.mm-2000.co.uk/corvette/maxpowershow/PICS/t_DSC_0008.JPG

86turbo

209 posts

256 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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putting things in perspective, I recently saw a C4 with a bodykit to make it look like a C5... Could actually fool people who didn't know better, I thought it looked horrible though (or maybe it was the primer paint job). Anyways, if you have to bodykit your Vette, I do like this one www.lingenfelter.com/corvettebodykit_c5.asp except for the stupid taillight treatment. Of your original designs the first number one looks the best.
Dan

Colvette

Original Poster:

844 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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86turbo said:
putting things in perspective, I recently saw a C4 with a bodykit to make it look like a C5... Could actually fool people who didn't know better, I thought it looked horrible though (or maybe it was the primer paint job). Anyways, if you have to bodykit your Vette, I do like this one www.lingenfelter.com/corvettebodykit_c5.asp except for the stupid taillight treatment. Of your original designs the first number one looks the best.
Dan


Thanks for the input Dan. The kit you mention is called the "Tigershark", and I've gotta say, I think it's a bit "tame". That was kinda my last resort if the idea to "design my own" didn't work out...

Colvette

Original Poster:

844 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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malc350 said:
Col, any idea who will be moulding the front end? Sounds like it's gonna come to a couple of quid!

By the feedback on some of your designs, maybe it could be an idea to see if anyone else wants a similar front end and bring the cost down.

Now if anyone could design a back end for a C5 that would be an achievment...

P.S. regarding that TVR is it the one that had me on the floor laughing...

www.mm-2000.co.uk/corvette/maxpowershow/PICS/t_DSC_0008.JPG


Hey, Malc. That TVR is a bit extreme, it's got to be said. WRT getting someone else to buy into my design - doubtful, I think. I'm generally a bit wilder than most when it comes to bodystyling (I seem to be the only vette owner in the world who liked "The Fast and the Furious"!), but I guess it could happen.

As it stands, I am going to redesign the rear a little once I've sorted the front. I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but I figured I would either try to produce a C5 alike with C6 tail lights, or perhaps try to do something ferrari inspired (C5 meets 360 and Enzo). I really like the high light position on the Enzo.

Anyway, that's all to come. Some guy asked me to do a treatment on the C5 with a 2004 model NSX front end, so I will. I'm also gonna mod up the Lambo and Porsche front ends to use stock C5 indicators. Any other requests?

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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I like the back of that Lingenfelter but it reminds me of something I can't think of - it's the front I don't like!

malc350

1,035 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Quite like that Lingenfelter though I';m always a bit suspicious of "carefully angled photography" i.e. thoise low-down shots make the car look great but I'd like to see it from other angles or better still, in the flesh.

Cheaper than Callaway's kits - in my naievity (that can't be spelt right) I enquired how much the Callaway Aerobody kit was, as well as their super-cool LeMans body and the reply was: $7,500 + fitting + painting for the aerobody and a big "by special quotation" thing for the LM which when you're talking Callaway (who charged a Twin Turbo owner $20,000 to rebuild an L98 - I'm not joking!) you know it's gonna be big bux!

Personally I think the C5 has been crying out for a good kit and there are a couple of nice ideas in the Eckler catalogue but this thread just goes to show how everyone's opinions are different, if nothing else. Look at the differences over C5 BSMs!

P.S. I liked 2 fast 2 furious too, great for a laugh, wasn't so keen on the first film.

V8 ETE

387 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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You don't seem to be allowing for your number plate in your designs.

Colvette

Original Poster:

844 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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V8 ETE said:
You don't seem to be allowing for your number plate in your designs.


Bwahahahahaha.

Captain Chaos

393 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Colvette said:

C5RagTop said:
By posting this item you have asked for people's opinions. Captain Chaos has simply given his. I'm with LuS1fer on this. My opinion is why?? For what it is going to cost surely you could find a nose (and more in the way of body kit parts) from the USA and it would stand a chance of fitting.



I do want opinions, and most (actually, especially LU51FER) have been helpful.

I get annoyed by the fact that there are some people who just want to stick with what the factory gave them. That's fine, but they really shouldn't expect everyone to do that.

It's obvious from the postings that the first pic has got the best reception. I'll do some more work on it, and see if I can sharpen it up a bit.

I wanna stand out with my custom vette. Everything else in the world has a variety of bodykits available for it, but not the vette - only one replacement bumper for sale anywhere...


Whoa there. Well, sorry I didn't like the Cayenne front end but you did ask. Let's all be nice about this as we are all enthusiasts but let me point a few things out as methinks you assume too much....

(a) Who said I was someone who wants to stick with what the factory gave them? Take a look at my vette. Does it look standard to you? No. Nor is it standard underneath either.

(b) Prior to my Vette I owned what was / is probably the most modded Ford Capri in the UK - tricked up Rover V8, 5 speed box, full roll cage, racing suspension, BMW 7 series brakes, Audi Cooling system. But I kept the body standard, no bodykit, no markings except a ford badge and very discrete cooling louvres in the bonnet. In fact the only thing that wasn't modded or replaced was the body.

So don't argue that I want to keep things standard.

(c) The fact that there are so few body mods available for the C5 should perhaps tell you something....it is hard to change the basic shape without detracting from the original design. In this instance.

But much as I diagree with what you suggest doing I would vigorously defend your right to do it !!

Captain C

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Some guy asked me to do a treatment on the C5 with a 2004 model NSX front end


So send him a picture of the C6!

Colvette

Original Poster:

844 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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LuS1fer said:
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Some guy asked me to do a treatment on the C5 with a 2004 model NSX front end


So send him a picture of the C6!


Hmmm... Yeah, that's kinda true, actually.

Colvette

Original Poster:

844 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Captain Chaos said:

Colvette said:


C5RagTop said:
By posting this item you have asked for people's opinions. Captain Chaos has simply given his. I'm with LuS1fer on this. My opinion is why?? For what it is going to cost surely you could find a nose (and more in the way of body kit parts) from the USA and it would stand a chance of fitting.




I do want opinions, and most (actually, especially LU51FER) have been helpful.

I get annoyed by the fact that there are some people who just want to stick with what the factory gave them. That's fine, but they really shouldn't expect everyone to do that.

It's obvious from the postings that the first pic has got the best reception. I'll do some more work on it, and see if I can sharpen it up a bit.

I wanna stand out with my custom vette. Everything else in the world has a variety of bodykits available for it, but not the vette - only one replacement bumper for sale anywhere...



Whoa there. Well, sorry I didn't like the Cayenne front end but you did ask. Let's all be nice about this as we are all enthusiasts but let me point a few things out as methinks you assume too much....

(a) Who said I was someone who wants to stick with what the factory gave them? Take a look at my vette. Does it look standard to you? No. Nor is it standard underneath either.

(b) Prior to my Vette I owned what was / is probably the most modded Ford Capri in the UK - tricked up Rover V8, 5 speed box, full roll cage, racing suspension, BMW 7 series brakes, Audi Cooling system. But I kept the body standard, no bodykit, no markings except a ford badge and very discrete cooling louvres in the bonnet. In fact the only thing that wasn't modded or replaced was the body.

So don't argue that I want to keep things standard.

(c) The fact that there are so few body mods available for the C5 should perhaps tell you something....it is hard to change the basic shape without detracting from the original design. In this instance.

But much as I diagree with what you suggest doing I would vigorously defend your right to do it !!

Captain C



I'm all for being nice about it (notice all the other replies), but to be told I should ditch my vette and buy a cayenne or a 360 modena is not only not nice, it's also rude and against what I was trying to do.

We are all enthusiasts (this is my third vette), and we should try to get on. Saying you don't like something is also fine, and I wouldn't have put it up if I'd had a problem with people saying that (see my new thread with the spoiler), but ultimately, if I'd wanted to ditch my vette in favour of something else, I would have done it already, hence my irritation at your response.

Water under the bridge, though.

vetteheadracer

8,271 posts

254 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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Howabout a C1 C5?

www.exoticrebodies.com/

Colvette

Original Poster:

844 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st April 2004
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vetteheadracer said:
Howabout a C1 C5?

www.exoticrebodies.com/


Eugh! That's a bit wrong, innit?

Even my designs are better than that!!