What spec was the Caterham Supersport R kit?
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I think you are probably right. My Superlight is very original and has a really good history https://caterhamsuperlight106.wordpress.com in case you are interested.
Including purchase I am in the mid to high 20's and really am not sure of the wisdom of spending more and take away from what is an original Superlight.
I am starting to think it may be more sensible to buy a SLR or R400K or D which will intrinsciably be worth more. It really is a double edged sword as I know how good my Superlight is and anything new is a gamble.
I have seen a nice (although apparently un-numbered) SLR for sale at Chapman Cars along with a very nice R400D. I need to sell my car first but they are both the kind of car I would be looking at. I have a very comprehensive stock of spares including a brand new wet sump, apollo tank and fittings, 2 spares sets of wheels and tyres, windscreen and aeroscreen, the QED / JENVEY DTH throttle bodies and air box. Not sure whether to sell the car separately or as a package if I go down the new 7 route.
Hmm I need to think things through.......
Including purchase I am in the mid to high 20's and really am not sure of the wisdom of spending more and take away from what is an original Superlight.
I am starting to think it may be more sensible to buy a SLR or R400K or D which will intrinsciably be worth more. It really is a double edged sword as I know how good my Superlight is and anything new is a gamble.
I have seen a nice (although apparently un-numbered) SLR for sale at Chapman Cars along with a very nice R400D. I need to sell my car first but they are both the kind of car I would be looking at. I have a very comprehensive stock of spares including a brand new wet sump, apollo tank and fittings, 2 spares sets of wheels and tyres, windscreen and aeroscreen, the QED / JENVEY DTH throttle bodies and air box. Not sure whether to sell the car separately or as a package if I go down the new 7 route.
Hmm I need to think things through.......
Yes very challenging. The 1600k superlight is a wonderful 7 made even better in my view by getting 160bhp on the 1600 with some porting and tbs.
It's just a question of whether it's what you want or not. I don't think it would ruin the originality of your car, but that's just my view.
If it was unpainted with no screen and bare faded carbon, then maybe not!
Hope that doesn't sound like an insult!
Bert
It's just a question of whether it's what you want or not. I don't think it would ruin the originality of your car, but that's just my view.
If it was unpainted with no screen and bare faded carbon, then maybe not!
Hope that doesn't sound like an insult!
Bert
It is a real dilemma, which I am very fortunate to have!
I have the throttle bodies and airbox but I am now starting to think it may well be time to upgrade to a 7 with the right spec already i.e. a SLR or R400 *now the subject of a separate thread.
However, there is no getting away from the fact that accepted wisdom is that a 160 to 180 bhp 7 is a sweet spot.
My concern is if I fit the throttle bodies and air box, do I stop there or have forged piston fitted and maybe a dry sump for safety sake? That would be expensive and would require running in over 1500 or so miles....
I have the throttle bodies and airbox but I am now starting to think it may well be time to upgrade to a 7 with the right spec already i.e. a SLR or R400 *now the subject of a separate thread.
However, there is no getting away from the fact that accepted wisdom is that a 160 to 180 bhp 7 is a sweet spot.
My concern is if I fit the throttle bodies and air box, do I stop there or have forged piston fitted and maybe a dry sump for safety sake? That would be expensive and would require running in over 1500 or so miles....
Edited by Green George on Monday 24th July 21:11
Green George said:
It is a real dilemma, which I am very fortunate to have!
I have the throttle bodies and airbox but I am now starting to think it may well be time to upgrade to a 7 with the right spec already i.e. a SLR or R400 *now the subject of a separate thread.
However, there is no getting away from the fact that accepted wisdom is that a 160 to 180 bhp 7 is a sweet spot.
My concern is if I fit the throttle bodies and air box, do I stop there or have forged piston fitted and maybe a dry sump for safety sake? That would be expensive and would require running in over 1500 or so miles....
I have the throttle bodies and airbox but I am now starting to think it may well be time to upgrade to a 7 with the right spec already i.e. a SLR or R400 *now the subject of a separate thread.
However, there is no getting away from the fact that accepted wisdom is that a 160 to 180 bhp 7 is a sweet spot.
My concern is if I fit the throttle bodies and air box, do I stop there or have forged piston fitted and maybe a dry sump for safety sake? That would be expensive and would require running in over 1500 or so miles....
Edited by Green George on Monday 24th July 21:11
I have also heard that, but the Supersport rev limit was raised to 7600 by Caterham. Having spoken with Dave Andrews I reduced my rev limit to just under 7200 by using an aftermarket rev limiter. I wondered whether by doing that I am not getting the best from the Supersport cams? Presumably, that was why Caterham raised the rev limit.
Interestingly the DVA Power kits don't seem to contain any piston upgrades. They look to be headwork, valves, cams and ECUs.
In fact the K04 which says 160bhp on the 1600 is only cams, Jenveys and an emerald.
So perhaps you could usefully upgrade the power without a full engine build and the running in.
Bert
In fact the K04 which says 160bhp on the 1600 is only cams, Jenveys and an emerald.
So perhaps you could usefully upgrade the power without a full engine build and the running in.
Bert
Well, the short answer is I do not know.
I love the Superlight but want more go. I have already sent too much on it and to tune it would take away from the original ethos. But they are cracking cars so I am already onto a winner!
A really good early SLR (tufrided crank model) would tick all the boxes. But must have been loved and have a full and detailed history file around 20,000 miles.
Ideally with the original (dull) carbon fibre wings all round like my Superlight and if I was very lucky orange or bright green. Oh, and definitely with a dry sump.
I would like a standard one other than having been fettled by DVA a la his K11 - Upgrade/drivability kit for the VHPD engine. This apparently greatly improves idle and progression together with much improved mid range torque, and lifts the engine to a proper 190BHP.
R400K as above.
R400D on 13" wheels, dry sump, 6 speed etc etc.
I love the Superlight but want more go. I have already sent too much on it and to tune it would take away from the original ethos. But they are cracking cars so I am already onto a winner!
A really good early SLR (tufrided crank model) would tick all the boxes. But must have been loved and have a full and detailed history file around 20,000 miles.
Ideally with the original (dull) carbon fibre wings all round like my Superlight and if I was very lucky orange or bright green. Oh, and definitely with a dry sump.
I would like a standard one other than having been fettled by DVA a la his K11 - Upgrade/drivability kit for the VHPD engine. This apparently greatly improves idle and progression together with much improved mid range torque, and lifts the engine to a proper 190BHP.
R400K as above.
R400D on 13" wheels, dry sump, 6 speed etc etc.
Edited by Green George on Thursday 27th July 16:23
Green George said:
I have also heard that, but the Supersport rev limit was raised to 7600 by Caterham. Having spoken with Dave Andrews I reduced my rev limit to just under 7200 by using an aftermarket rev limiter. I wondered whether by doing that I am not getting the best from the Supersport cams? Presumably, that was why Caterham raised the rev limit.
I am happy to hear David is confirming my calculationInterestingly, I preferred my 1600SS to my SLR!
Bert
Bert
Green George said:
Well, the short answer is I do not know.
I love the Superlight but want more go. I have already sent too much on it and to tune it would take away from the original ethos. But they are cracking cars so I am already onto a winner!
A really good early SLR (tufrided crank model) would tick all the boxes. But must have been loved and have a full and detailed history file around 20,000 miles.
Ideally with the original (dull) carbon fibre wings all round like my Superlight and if I was very lucky orange or bright green. Oh, and definitely with a dry sump.
I would like a standard one other than having been fettled by DVA a la his K11 - Upgrade/drivability kit for the VHPD engine. This apparently greatly improves idle and progression together with much improved mid range torque, and lifts the engine to a proper 190BHP.
R400K as above.
R400D on 13" wheels, dry sump, 6 speed etc etc.
I love the Superlight but want more go. I have already sent too much on it and to tune it would take away from the original ethos. But they are cracking cars so I am already onto a winner!
A really good early SLR (tufrided crank model) would tick all the boxes. But must have been loved and have a full and detailed history file around 20,000 miles.
Ideally with the original (dull) carbon fibre wings all round like my Superlight and if I was very lucky orange or bright green. Oh, and definitely with a dry sump.
I would like a standard one other than having been fettled by DVA a la his K11 - Upgrade/drivability kit for the VHPD engine. This apparently greatly improves idle and progression together with much improved mid range torque, and lifts the engine to a proper 190BHP.
R400K as above.
R400D on 13" wheels, dry sump, 6 speed etc etc.
Edited by Green George on Thursday 27th July 16:23
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