R400 Options and Spec

R400 Options and Spec

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subirg

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718 posts

276 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Pugsey said:
Bedazzled said:
So that's a no then...!

Horses for courses I guess. I agree the 2-11 is very pricey and there are also a few things missing in the spec (dry sump & LSD), but it just looks fab to me. I especially like the idea of bolt-on body panels, much cheaper to repair than the 240R.

I think people are daft spending £40K on a CSR that to a lay-person is a kit car that looks a bit like chitty-chitty-bang-bang [ducks for cover]. Radicals are pointless too because they are useless on the road and if you are fast on track it's the car and if you are slow it's the driver, you can't win.

However the R400 is in a better price bracket and I like it a lot, especially as it uses the smaller S3 chassis. The exhaust is on the wrong side though...



It's easy to be FASTER than most other things at a track day in a Radical. It's an entirely different matter to actually drive one FAST. Most people who drive them at track days are nowhere near their cars limits frankly. If you want to get near the limits they are a great challenge. Too quick to be comfortable at a track day IMO though.



Edited by Pugsey on Thursday 8th March 10:30


Depends on the track day...! A tight twisty circuit with lots of traffic will frustrate the Radical driver, but a decent long circuit (e.g. Spa) is absolutely ideal. Caterham is a good fun car at anything - road or track, and hence a good all rounder.

Either way - we all like the R400, so that's good news all round!

Pugsey

5,813 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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subirg said:
Pugsey said:
Bedazzled said:
So that's a no then...!

Horses for courses I guess. I agree the 2-11 is very pricey and there are also a few things missing in the spec (dry sump & LSD), but it just looks fab to me. I especially like the idea of bolt-on body panels, much cheaper to repair than the 240R.

I think people are daft spending £40K on a CSR that to a lay-person is a kit car that looks a bit like chitty-chitty-bang-bang [ducks for cover]. Radicals are pointless too because they are useless on the road and if you are fast on track it's the car and if you are slow it's the driver, you can't win.

However the R400 is in a better price bracket and I like it a lot, especially as it uses the smaller S3 chassis. The exhaust is on the wrong side though...



It's easy to be FASTER than most other things at a track day in a Radical. It's an entirely different matter to actually drive one FAST. Most people who drive them at track days are nowhere near their cars limits frankly. If you want to get near the limits they are a great challenge. Too quick to be comfortable at a track day IMO though.



Edited by Pugsey on Thursday 8th March 10:30


Depends on the track day...! A tight twisty circuit with lots of traffic will frustrate the Radical driver, but a decent long circuit (e.g. Spa) is absolutely ideal. Caterham is a good fun car at anything - road or track, and hence a good all rounder.

Either way - we all like the R400, so that's good news all round!
If I'd considered my post a little longer before posting I would have added the Spa bit - I agree with you there. The big frustation is that quite a few things are actually quicker than a Radical on the straights but markedly inferior under brakes and through corners and slower over an overall lap which can become very frustrating for the Radical driver who, under trackday rules, can't get past on the brakes or through the corner. Agree re. R400 of course - not long now!

Bafty_Crastard

145 posts

213 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Bedazzled said:
So are any of you regretting putting down a deposit on a Caterham R400/CSR when you could have a Lotus 2-11 instead? I love Caterhams (and I've got an R300) but I'd rather have the Lotus to be honest.

High res pictures: www.leftlanenews.com/lotus-2-eleven.html



Well I've just been reading the write up on the KTM X-Bow....that’s one machine I would defo have. Audi 2.0, turbo, 6 cylinder, dry sump, LSD, carbon, all for £31K. Unfortunately the initial run of 100 is sold out

The 2-11 is just another version of the Elise, visually I am not jumping around either, a bit boxy looking

[url]www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plugins/iimage-gallery.php?idpost=4758&idg=1&idi=10[/url]

Bafty


Edited by Bafty_Crastard on Thursday 8th March 17:53

scorcher

3,986 posts

234 months

Thursday 8th March 2007
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Bafty said:
2.0, turbo, 6 cylinder,

4 cylinder shirley????

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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Update! Order number 1 delivered today at 11.30.

Yes - a year later than originally promised, the man who placed the first order for the Duratec R400 is taking delivery of his kit at 11.30 today. clap

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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rubystone said:
Update! Order number 1 delivered today at 11.30.

Yes - a year later than originally promised, the man who placed the first order for the Duratec R400 is taking delivery of his kit at 11.30 today. clap

Woo hoo! First job - check all the bits you ordered are actually there hehe

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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Note - it's not me that's taken delivery - I'm sure he'll post something on Blatchat at some time

tvrted

29 posts

227 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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Might do Mark

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Friday 9th March 2007
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Ah..... stick it on here too mate thumbup

I didn't know you owned a TVR...

Pugsey

5,813 posts

214 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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rubystone said:
Update! Order number 1 delivered today at 11.30.

Yes - a year later than originally promised, the man who placed the first order for the Duratec R400 is taking delivery of his kit at 11.30 today. clap
I'm confused (easily done I admit). I spoke to Caterham today who said no cars being delivered for a good few weeks yet?

tvrted

29 posts

227 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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If you want to unconfuse yourself have a look in my garage, or am I seeing things.

L100NYY

35,219 posts

243 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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tvrted said:
If you want to unconfuse yourself have a look in my garage, or am I seeing things.


Pictures, we need pictures!!!

tvrted

29 posts

227 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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If I post pictures someone will say that the shadows are all wrong. thats why I said what I said in my previous post.

L100NYY

35,219 posts

243 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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tvrted said:
If I post pictures someone will say that the shadows are all wrong. thats why I said what I said in my previous post.


But I can't see your garage?!!?!?

tvrted

29 posts

227 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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I have enough to do puting it together without doing a david baily job.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

214 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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tvrted said:
If you want to unconfuse yourself have a look in my garage, or am I seeing things.


Caterham have revised their story. Just two kits are being delivered before the cars official launch in three weeks time so I am now indeed 'unconfused'! No need to take a pic. of a pile of boxes - although pics. of finished article are ,of course, mandatory! I am sure you're very relieved to know that you're not imagining things. Enjoy!



Edited by Pugsey on Monday 12th March 14:31



Edited by Pugsey on Monday 12th March 14:36

L100NYY

35,219 posts

243 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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tvrted said:
I have enough to do puting it together without doing a david baily job.


Ah sorry, I didn't realsie it wasn't built yet!! boxedin

tvrted

29 posts

227 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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no probs chaps, will post photos when finished.

L100NYY

35,219 posts

243 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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tvrted said:
no probs chaps, will post photos when finished.


thumbup

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Monday 12th March 2007
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Pugsey said:
rubystone said:
Update! Order number 1 delivered today at 11.30.

Yes - a year later than originally promised, the man who placed the first order for the Duratec R400 is taking delivery of his kit at 11.30 today. clap
I'm confused (easily done I admit). I spoke to Caterham today who said no cars being delivered for a good few weeks yet?


....didn't I warn you that you may not get your car when you expect to get it?....