biggest power in a caterham

biggest power in a caterham

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SaliMali

242 posts

221 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
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My 2.3 duratec made 282bhp on Emeralds dyno.The engine only had 100 miles on it and the petrol had been in the tank for a few months whilst TSK had it...god knows what it'll make when it's run in

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Who built that one? How's it been going? How noisy is it?

SaliMali

242 posts

221 months

Monday 18th June 2007
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Danny

Rob Walker built it for me (it was the second Duratec he had done at the time).We started ordering the parts in 2006 but the car wasn't finally registered until March 2007.This was due to problems with SVA and poor service/quality from companies that should know better.If all had gone to plan it would have been ready by June 2006.We were hoping to be the first duratec to hit the magic 300bhp but the tightness of the non-run in engine, the fact that the blowers weren't on at Emerald and the stale petrol got the better of us I'm afraid.Emerald seem to think that with a few thousand miles on the clock the car will get very close to that figure.I was disappointed that we didn't get 300bhp but in reality 280 odd bhp is very naughty (and the 07 plate suits the car!)

It's going very well thanks-very noisy though-even with a quiet cat can it was still touch and go whether it would pass the SVA.

Hows yours going?

Andy (AndyPandy on Blatchat)

Edited by SaliMali on Monday 18th June 16:56


Edited by SaliMali on Monday 18th June 16:57

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Tightness of non-run in engine is no excuse - so was mine! tongue out I've never been back with the same spec engine to see if it gains with a bit of running though - all the good dyno operators are rather busy. Mine passes 105 static quite easily with airbox and exhaust, and even managed to sound quiet on the airbox side. But I'm sure a drive-by mike on the exhaust side would get upset, and sub 100 static would be impossible. The new 2.2 engine is great - power band from 4000 to 8500, and actually being able to use the top end power without hitting the limiter at all. See you at a trackday!

gadgeroonie

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5,362 posts

237 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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might be a bit extreme - but i have a friend who builds 350 - 650 hp zetec and duratec engines

what is the biggest top speed a caterham has ever achieved ?

fcat

140 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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a race CSR 260 is geared to pull 154mph in 6th on the rev limiter. It will reach this given a long enough straight. Allow for a little tyre expansion at that speed and maybe its doing a couple of mph more. However the acceleration really tails off above 130'ish due to poor aerodynamics - ISTR drag is proportional to velocity squared. I suspect a huge increase in power would be required to get into the 160's and I would guess that around 170 is the effective Vmax irrespective of power - assuming a real world engine that can actually be slotted into a seven. Would be fun finding out though !

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Power is proportional to the cube of the velocity. No idea how fast my car goes, and a turbo doesn't appeal for circuit driving. Supercharging though... biggrin

SaliMali

242 posts

221 months

Tuesday 19th June 2007
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Danny-I thought your 300+ bhp was from a 2.4 Duratec.Am I mistaken or have you swiched to a 2.2 ?

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Yes, it was 2.45, but you can't really rev that over 8200 for sustained periods. The 2.2 is a similar head but shorter stroke so it's fine for 9000 rpm. It's much easier to drive without having to worry about the shift point/rev limiter so much.

Fat Arnie

1,655 posts

264 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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Bit of a one trick pony then, like Edmunds' car.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Saturday 23rd June 2007
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Fat Arnie said:
Bit of a one trick pony then, like Edmunds' car.
But what a trick!

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Saturday 23rd June 2007
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And to be fair to Dave, there's no pretence of anything other than the one trick.

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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Huh? Why is it a one trick pony?

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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dannylt said:
Huh? Why is it a one trick pony?
Dave built it to go fast, very fast, in a straight line

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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Sure - I agree Dave's car is. But mine isn't - it's primarily a track car, but also used on road. And it also beats Arnie in a straight line biggrin. Hardly a one trick pony...

Fat Arnie said:
Bit of a one trick pony then, like Edmunds' car.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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dannylt said:
Sure - I agree Dave's car is. But mine isn't - it's primarily a track car, but also used on road. And it also beats Arnie in a straight line biggrin. Hardly a one trick pony...
Oh sorry, Danny, I totally misread Arnie's post - yours, by all accounts does indeed go round corners.

FWIW I've only ever seen Arnie's on the road once at the 2001 Rumble and even then, I passed it parked up on the A12 and didn't see it again for the remainder of the event, so I've never actualy seen it running....

SaliMali

242 posts

221 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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Danny

What's the bhp of your 2.2 ?

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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301bhp @ 8300, 207lbft @ 6500. Slightly less than the 2.5, but haven't done any twiddling with induction or exhaust yet - too busy driving it!

trackcar

6,453 posts

227 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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was that recorded at walker's workshop danny? when are you venturing north again? would be great to catch up smile

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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Yes, at Emerald. Check out latest PPC, he stuck a piccy in. I mailed you a while back about some dyno tweaking, but I guess you don't lower yourself to 4-pot engine mapping tongue out