RE: Caterham R500 Superlight Revealed

RE: Caterham R500 Superlight Revealed

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Snake the Sniper

2,544 posts

202 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Do those carbon winglets actually help? I thought most 7's suffered from rear lift, so having the nose pushing down won't help that much....
Still, will be mental fast, and hopefully a bit more longer lasting than the old R500, engine wise at any rate.

M400 NBL

3,529 posts

213 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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sniff petrol said:
263bhp from 2 litres - will it be reliable? I remember reading that the K-series R500 needed refreshing every 3000 miles for £3000.
It's gonna last a lot longer than bike engine cars....which are getting more popular because of their ridiculous speeds and quick gear changes ( I assume the gear changes are the same as on a motorbike, ie no need to use the clutch!

130R

6,810 posts

207 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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sniff petrol said:
263bhp from 2 litres - will it be reliable? I remember reading that the K-series R500 needed refreshing every 3000 miles for £3000.
The Ford Duratec engines are a lot better

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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sniff petrol said:
263bhp from 2 litres - will it be reliable? I remember reading that the K-series R500 needed refreshing every 3000 miles for £3000.
Having had a chat with some owners at local meets either with R500's or basically the same engine in other 7's, seems that was always a bit of fallacy.
I guess the fact that they (Caterham) were pushing the specific output that high (230bhp from 1.9litres or 250bhp from the R500 Evo yikes) they needed to make sure the engines wouldn't be pushed too hard to avoid them going pop frequently. Mighty engine nonetheless...
A friend of my dads has a 210bhp K-series engined car, it is incredible.. Flames, massive bangs, pops & cracks on the overrun and immense power, love it! thumbup
As I said, I want one and I want it in frog-splat green! lick

onewingedangel

12 posts

206 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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263bhp N/A is a lot to ask from the engine though.

kingb

1,151 posts

227 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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thats going to fly

the price is an issue however

36k is alot of wedge for a 7
but then for a track day car thats that fast its not so much

lotusmark

7 posts

281 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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mmm, nice

Negative Creep

24,993 posts

228 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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One thing I've always wondered is how they get away with the exposed side exit exhaust? I'm not complaining but surprised someone else hasn't. Still, what a car. It must need a seriously good driver to get the most out of it

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Negative Creep said:
One thing I've always wondered is how they get away with the exposed side exit exhaust? I'm not complaining but surprised someone else hasn't.
The covering on it is spaced just far enough away from the cat that it dissipates a lot of the heat away, hence it avoids burnt limbs when you get out! hehe

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

219 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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"The Ford Duratec engines are a lot better


Explain what you mean in a Mondeo or after its been thoroughly re-engineered and had a small fortune spent on it?

Mars

8,728 posts

215 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Oddball RS said:
"The Ford Duratec engines are a lot better


Explain what you mean in a Mondeo or after its been thoroughly re-engineered and had a small fortune spent on it?
Indeed. Spend the same on a K and you'll get similar results (power AND reliability).

WTFWT?!

841 posts

224 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Why has it got the ugly CSR type vent on top of the nose cone?

They should have the CSR 260 (with vents and ugly cycle wings etc) for those who want the updated model and then offer the classic styling with the R500 IMO

130R

6,810 posts

207 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Mars said:
Oddball RS said:
"The Ford Duratec engines are a lot better


Explain what you mean in a Mondeo or after its been thoroughly re-engineered and had a small fortune spent on it?
Indeed. Spend the same on a K and you'll get similar results (power AND reliability).
I mean that from the factory the Duratec engines do not need the rebuilds the K-series engines do

Mars

8,728 posts

215 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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I've never really understood why the factory ones needed their legendary "refresh", or whether it was just a rumour.

I was involved with a group of people who built their engines to higher outputs than the original K-series R500 engine, and some with technically lower specifications. They didn't need a refresh. Just a service at the usual intervals.

Perhaps you're right. Maybe the factory Ks were inferior but the K-series engine need not be. Spend the same amount of money as a factory K or Duratec on some carefully-chosen services to build your own K and you will have a reliable, powerful and very light K.



However, spend the same building your own Duratec and I suppose you'd end up with a more powerful engine still.

Edited by Mars on Friday 11th April 22:08

mrclav

1,305 posts

224 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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Having now ridden in a Caterham I really don't get the appeal of these cars, especially aesthetically - sure, they are very fast and they handle well enough but... I guess all I could think about is "I'll be dead if I ever crash in this"! Hmmm, horses for courses I suppose? If I HAD to choose such a car to drive/race I think I'd prefer the Atom myself, I much prefer the looks and obviously they go like stink too (even though they seem to leave on even more exposed!).

bob1179

14,107 posts

210 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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I want one of those!

Looks fantastic in white too.

driving

Edited by bob1179 on Saturday 12th April 05:20

chrisbr68

4,277 posts

249 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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So how much do we think it will be?

sniff petrol

13,107 posts

213 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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chrisbr68 said:
So how much do we think it will be?
£36k I beleive

aww999

2,068 posts

262 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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mrclav said:
Having now ridden in a Caterham I really don't get the appeal of these cars, especially aesthetically - sure, they are very fast and they handle well enough but... I guess all I could think about is "I'll be dead if I ever crash in this"!
Surely with a rigid spaceframe chassis, a decent rollbar and good harnesses, there are almost as safe as a single-seater type racing car?

I guess going into the back of a truck could be an issue though, as the car slid underneath the first thing to hit the trucks bumper would be the visor of your helmet . . .

Martin Keene

9,453 posts

226 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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onewingedangel said:
263bhp N/A is a lot to ask from the engine though.
SBD Developments can squeeze 304 nat asp out of one...

yikes

http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Main.htm