Reducing the rev limiter of R500
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or buy this car which is faster and has a more reliable engine than an R500....
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Edited by Fat Arnie on Thursday 17th July 08:41
clarkey said:
Rubystone, yes I think a new R500 is £15k more than a previous one, I'm just of the opinion that if you can find £25k for a completely irrational buy like a 7 you can probably justify spending £40k with a bit of work! Maybe we're not all the same, I'm just incredibly weak....
No you're not alone, believe me you're not alone. I guess people fall into two camps on that then. For me the maximum I would spend on an R500 would be £25K. At that price it has more bangs per buck than almost anything else this side of a 'doner-cycle'.
Once you start looking at £40K plus then I think other factors come into play..and other vehicles appear on the horizon....for me 355,550, 512...365 plus another £50K or so. They may not be as quick or handle as well but in the case of the 512 and 365, every bit as entertaining and every bit as annoying. Plus...why stop at £15K.
That said the article in Autocar about the XBow wasn't terribly flattering but they are sold out for a while!
I could be somewhat biased however
Once you start looking at £40K plus then I think other factors come into play..and other vehicles appear on the horizon....for me 355,550, 512...365 plus another £50K or so. They may not be as quick or handle as well but in the case of the 512 and 365, every bit as entertaining and every bit as annoying. Plus...why stop at £15K.
That said the article in Autocar about the XBow wasn't terribly flattering but they are sold out for a while!
I could be somewhat biased however
Hunttheshunt said:
I guess people fall into two camps on that then. For me the maximum I would spend on an R500 would be £25K. At that price it has more bangs per buck than almost anything else this side of a 'doner-cycle'.
Once you start looking at £40K plus then I think other factors come into play..and other vehicles appear on the horizon....for me 355,550, 512...365 plus another £50K or so. They may not be as quick or handle as well but in the case of the 512 and 365, every bit as entertaining and every bit as annoying. Plus...why stop at £15K.
That said the article in Autocar about the XBow wasn't terribly flattering but they are sold out for a while!
I could be somewhat biased however
I understand the £40k barrier but then you have to think about what car you're buyng. Whilst I think one can justifiably lump a Testarossa (you'll not get a 512TR for £40k), 355, 550 (dunno what 365 you're talking about but BBs are north of £50k) into the category of "sportscar" (and you can add to that list cars such as DB7 Vantage, 911 Turbo, M3, SL55 AMG etc etc) these aren't comparable to an R500. The £40k Caterham is not a good touring car, holds bugger all luggage, mists up when it's wet, so completely fails as a GT. Once you start looking at £40K plus then I think other factors come into play..and other vehicles appear on the horizon....for me 355,550, 512...365 plus another £50K or so. They may not be as quick or handle as well but in the case of the 512 and 365, every bit as entertaining and every bit as annoying. Plus...why stop at £15K.
That said the article in Autocar about the XBow wasn't terribly flattering but they are sold out for a while!
I could be somewhat biased however
On track none of those sportscars gets anywhere near the £40k Caterham.
I'd say a good powered Caterham at £17k and a 308 at £20k were the perfect pairing. In fact that's what I had...but then I found too little time to use both; the 308 went and the Caterham stayed.
rubystone said:
Hunttheshunt said:
I guess people fall into two camps on that then. For me the maximum I would spend on an R500 would be £25K. At that price it has more bangs per buck than almost anything else this side of a 'doner-cycle'.
Once you start looking at £40K plus then I think other factors come into play..and other vehicles appear on the horizon....for me 355,550, 512...365 plus another £50K or so. They may not be as quick or handle as well but in the case of the 512 and 365, every bit as entertaining and every bit as annoying. Plus...why stop at £15K.
That said the article in Autocar about the XBow wasn't terribly flattering but they are sold out for a while!
I could be somewhat biased however
I understand the £40k barrier but then you have to think about what car you're buyng. Whilst I think one can justifiably lump a Testarossa (you'll not get a 512TR for £40k), 355, 550 (dunno what 365 you're talking about but BBs are north of £50k) into the category of "sportscar" (and you can add to that list cars such as DB7 Vantage, 911 Turbo, M3, SL55 AMG etc etc) these aren't comparable to an R500. The £40k Caterham is not a good touring car, holds bugger all luggage, mists up when it's wet, so completely fails as a GT. Once you start looking at £40K plus then I think other factors come into play..and other vehicles appear on the horizon....for me 355,550, 512...365 plus another £50K or so. They may not be as quick or handle as well but in the case of the 512 and 365, every bit as entertaining and every bit as annoying. Plus...why stop at £15K.
That said the article in Autocar about the XBow wasn't terribly flattering but they are sold out for a while!
I could be somewhat biased however
On track none of those sportscars gets anywhere near the £40k Caterham.
I'd say a good powered Caterham at £17k and a 308 at £20k were the perfect pairing. In fact that's what I had...but then I found too little time to use both; the 308 went and the Caterham stayed.
Had a Testarossa, can't see what all the fuss was about personally and your back into the shirt and hair thing!
Hunttheshunt said:
Then we kind of agree, a Caterham in the late teens early twenties is the perfect toy. However, when you start talking £40K plus some of us start to think of other alternatives. I know that none can hold a candle to the Caterhams performance etc but other factors start to creep in at that point.........512 BBi and 365 GTB/4 (hence my extra £50K)just beautiful. Of course there are other things which I hadn't thought of Noble M400, CSL etc etc.
Had a Testarossa, can't see what all the fuss was about personally and your back into the shirt and hair thing!
Kind of, but I'm suggesting one owns two cars, that way the second one really can be a pin-up (as it were). The Caterham/Westfield - to show I'm not biased, can be the track toy and the £40k can be put into one of the cars on my list. Had a Testarossa, can't see what all the fuss was about personally and your back into the shirt and hair thing!
But to buy a £60k car and expect it to satisfy both is a problem for me - I can't think of something at that money that could be thrashed around Snetterton for a day without it falling apart!
GT3 (heavy consumable costs) and with the right setup, not a long way behind the 7.... The problem for me is the cost if something goes wrong, or I hit anything, whereas with the 7, taking a front corner off will cost max £3k to put right.... Also, people aren't as anal when buying the seven, as long as it's in good condition, rather than crawling over it with a paint thickness gauge FFS!
Except.....
I say almost....sadly my wife isn't interested in driving 'the coffin' and as she pointed out I have rather too many solo hobbies...whatever that means!
rubystone said:
In fact that's what I had...but then I found too little time to use both; the 308 went and the Caterham stayed.
I'm done paying huge sums in depreciation now and so I'd far rather spend £25K or less on a toy and one that holds its value...the Caterham almost fits that bill perfectly. I say almost....sadly my wife isn't interested in driving 'the coffin' and as she pointed out I have rather too many solo hobbies...whatever that means!
Edited by Hunttheshunt on Thursday 17th July 17:54
Hi Rubystone,
Not entirely sure why it "let go" but basically the Cambelt has slipped and there was contact between valves and pistons. I'm having pretty much the whole thing replaced apart from the Crank and Rods which are fine. As part of the job it it will be fully refreshed, which was a job that i was going to have done at the end of this year anyhow - still darn expensive though!
Cheers
Simon
Not entirely sure why it "let go" but basically the Cambelt has slipped and there was contact between valves and pistons. I'm having pretty much the whole thing replaced apart from the Crank and Rods which are fine. As part of the job it it will be fully refreshed, which was a job that i was going to have done at the end of this year anyhow - still darn expensive though!
Cheers
Simon
simon clark said:
Hi Rubystone,
Not entirely sure why it "let go" but basically the Cambelt has slipped and there was contact between valves and pistons. I'm having pretty much the whole thing replaced apart from the Crank and Rods which are fine. As part of the job it it will be fully refreshed, which was a job that i was going to have done at the end of this year anyhow - still darn expensive though!
Cheers
Simon
I had an odd top end problem with my SLR - stone apparently worked its way through the drain hole in the pulley cover and caused the belt to jump a tooth. Cue Minister top-end rebuild a couple of weeks after I'd had the bottom end rebuilt.... Not entirely sure why it "let go" but basically the Cambelt has slipped and there was contact between valves and pistons. I'm having pretty much the whole thing replaced apart from the Crank and Rods which are fine. As part of the job it it will be fully refreshed, which was a job that i was going to have done at the end of this year anyhow - still darn expensive though!
Cheers
Simon
Fat Arnie said:
or buy this car which is faster and has a more reliable engine than an R500....
www.the-webbs.com/k2rum/k2home.htm
For £25K????www.the-webbs.com/k2rum/k2home.htm
Edited by Fat Arnie on Thursday 17th July 08:41
I salute people who think they can go behind their sofas and find £15K
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