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Hi Knut,
- I think you have found your forum. There are a lot of enthusiastic S4 owners here to assist you with any question. I can send you some photos of cycle wing conversions - maybe you might rethink your plan when you have seen them. But anyway when you do the conversion (which is not a difficult job) keep everything in that way, that you can go backwards to restore the old design at a later stage. If you email me your chassis number I can confirm what S4 you have (hajo@lotus-seven-series-4.de) feel also free to send me your technical questions...
Best luck with your great looking new "toy"
Hajo
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- I think you have found your forum. There are a lot of enthusiastic S4 owners here to assist you with any question. I can send you some photos of cycle wing conversions - maybe you might rethink your plan when you have seen them. But anyway when you do the conversion (which is not a difficult job) keep everything in that way, that you can go backwards to restore the old design at a later stage. If you email me your chassis number I can confirm what S4 you have (hajo@lotus-seven-series-4.de) feel also free to send me your technical questions...
Best luck with your great looking new "toy"
Hajo
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Knut
Welcome to the S4 Clan
your car looks very nice, keep us informed on your rebuild progress.
I agree with you about your X flows optimistic 130BHP, IMO you'll be lucky if it has a real 100BHP.
Why did you decide to buy an S4? It's not the desired option for most 7 lovers.
There's plenty of knowledgable S4 owners on this forum so I'm sure you'll get plenty of good advice.
Have fun with your car
Mal
Welcome to the S4 Clan
your car looks very nice, keep us informed on your rebuild progress.I agree with you about your X flows optimistic 130BHP, IMO you'll be lucky if it has a real 100BHP.
Why did you decide to buy an S4? It's not the desired option for most 7 lovers.
There's plenty of knowledgable S4 owners on this forum so I'm sure you'll get plenty of good advice.
Have fun with your car
Mal
Hi all, and thanks for the quick responses!
Based on the feedback I will start a project thread here later. Please contribute with comments, feedback and critique. Its the only way to get better
As for the cycle wings: i will definetly keep the spare parts so i can convert it back at a later date. I just think the cycle wings look better....
Why I bought an S4? Well the price was unbeatable! I paid equivalent to an unfinished locost project, besides these cars are hard to come by. I actually wasn't looking for another car, having a Porsche 944 turbo and an MG Midget FIA as my toy cars. But this offer was just too good Also the lack(!) of any signs of rust was appealing. The car has spent all its life in a ventilated, dehydrated garage.
Unfortunately it have not been driven for 7 years, so I will lightly restore it over the winter.
I will get some pics out later.
Based on the feedback I will start a project thread here later. Please contribute with comments, feedback and critique. Its the only way to get better
As for the cycle wings: i will definetly keep the spare parts so i can convert it back at a later date. I just think the cycle wings look better....
Why I bought an S4? Well the price was unbeatable! I paid equivalent to an unfinished locost project, besides these cars are hard to come by. I actually wasn't looking for another car, having a Porsche 944 turbo and an MG Midget FIA as my toy cars. But this offer was just too good
Also the lack(!) of any signs of rust was appealing. The car has spent all its life in a ventilated, dehydrated garage. Unfortunately it have not been driven for 7 years, so I will lightly restore it over the winter.
I will get some pics out later.
Hi Knut,
- it is not serious or better: possible to make any comments from outside about your engine spec. and the possible power figures.
In the case it is a stock 1600 only equipped with the beautiful twin Webers there might be around 100 HP. But twin Webers only make sense with some headwork and a suitable camshaft. And if you take the + 100 ccm of the so called "Supersprint" version you will get up to honest 135 easily -- All are looking same from outside. So the only way to find out the truth is to remove the cyl.-head and to inspect the "internal secrets" (or best to remove the engine and to mate it to a dyno).
1700 drysumped big valve race head
- it is not serious or better: possible to make any comments from outside about your engine spec. and the possible power figures.
In the case it is a stock 1600 only equipped with the beautiful twin Webers there might be around 100 HP. But twin Webers only make sense with some headwork and a suitable camshaft. And if you take the + 100 ccm of the so called "Supersprint" version you will get up to honest 135 easily -- All are looking same from outside. So the only way to find out the truth is to remove the cyl.-head and to inspect the "internal secrets" (or best to remove the engine and to mate it to a dyno).
1700 drysumped big valve race head
Edited by 7s4whatelse on Sunday 25th September 16:46
Edited by 7s4whatelse on Sunday 25th September 16:47
Hi Folks,
I know the standard ride height for the S4 is 6 1/2" (I assume floor to ground)can anyone tell me what the clearence under the sump and flywheel / bell housing is at this height?
I'm looking to make up a set of engine mounts and want to make sure the engine is sitting at the right height before I do.
Many thanks
I know the standard ride height for the S4 is 6 1/2" (I assume floor to ground)can anyone tell me what the clearence under the sump and flywheel / bell housing is at this height?
I'm looking to make up a set of engine mounts and want to make sure the engine is sitting at the right height before I do.
Many thanks
Hi
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Hi "Mistron",
- it is not the best way to find out the engine position in the described way.
The set-up of the dampers, spring rates as well as different tire sizes will give varying heights. What you need is the measurement of the bottom bell-housing to underside chassis rails at that (theoretical) line. If you agree, I can take the measurement for you.
Cheers, Hajo
- it is not the best way to find out the engine position in the described way.
The set-up of the dampers, spring rates as well as different tire sizes will give varying heights. What you need is the measurement of the bottom bell-housing to underside chassis rails at that (theoretical) line. If you agree, I can take the measurement for you.
Cheers, Hajo
7s4whatelse said:
Hi "Mistron",
- it is not the best way to find out the engine position in the described way.
The set-up of the dampers, spring rates as well as different tire sizes will give varying heights. What you need is the measurement of the bottom bell-housing to underside chassis rails at that (theoretical) line. If you agree, I can take the measurement for you.
Cheers, Hajo
Hi Hajo, yes, I supose what I really need is the amount the sump hangs below the bottom of the lower chassis tubes. if you could take a measure for me, that'd be great.- it is not the best way to find out the engine position in the described way.
The set-up of the dampers, spring rates as well as different tire sizes will give varying heights. What you need is the measurement of the bottom bell-housing to underside chassis rails at that (theoretical) line. If you agree, I can take the measurement for you.
Cheers, Hajo
I'm also missing the steering rack mounts, so if anyone could take a photo and give me the critical dimensions, or even a wee sketck, that'd be brilliant, as I can get some machined up easy enough
Al
Edited by Mistron on Tuesday 27th September 22:57
Hi Mistron-Al,
- the exact measurement is 3,85 cm (Underside chassis rails to bellhousing).
As the steering rack is Ford Escort "I" you only need to take theese Ford clamps which will fit to the chassis mount for the rack. At Fleabay you will find aluminium aftermarket items for that which will also fit well.
You will not find any steering column mounts as there are no such elements in the clever design of the series 4.
The column is mounted directly to the integated dashboard moulding with a Triumph Spitfire bracket.
Cheers, Hajo
- the exact measurement is 3,85 cm (Underside chassis rails to bellhousing).
As the steering rack is Ford Escort "I" you only need to take theese Ford clamps which will fit to the chassis mount for the rack. At Fleabay you will find aluminium aftermarket items for that which will also fit well.
You will not find any steering column mounts as there are no such elements in the clever design of the series 4.
The column is mounted directly to the integated dashboard moulding with a Triumph Spitfire bracket.
Cheers, Hajo
Edited by 7s4whatelse on Wednesday 28th September 19:09
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