So who has ordered the new S550 Mustang?

So who has ordered the new S550 Mustang?

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JumboBeef

3,772 posts

178 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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What do folk think about the new VED rates announced today, and how it will affect the second hand prices of these first UK Mustangs in a few years time?

Avdb

177 posts

119 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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JumboBeef said:
What do folk think about the new VED rates announced today, and how it will affect the second hand prices of these first UK Mustangs in a few years time?
I am considering an order after seeing one in the metal at the end of the year for delivery in 2016.

Perhaps it is worth waiting for 2017?

Fidd

285 posts

220 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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JumboBeef said:
What do folk think about the new VED rates announced today, and how it will affect the second hand prices of these first UK Mustangs in a few years time?
Who knows? The first few cars will be £505 a year as it stands, later ones £140 if Ford don't take list price over £40k.

Don't forget that the first year tax which is included in the new cars list price will, from what I can see, go up from £1100 to £2000 when the tax changes come in. Ford will be bound to increase list price by the same amount to cover it, so as things stand you'll likely be paying another £900 for the car from the start. Plus Ford have already hinted at another possible price increase for the car before the end of the year. Overall just can't see it making much if any difference.

Fidd

285 posts

220 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Avdb said:
I am considering an order after seeing one in the metal at the end of the year for delivery in 2016.

Perhaps it is worth waiting for 2017?
Why? Any price increases, which are highly likely, will cost way more than a little extra on road tax.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

178 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Fidd said:
Avdb said:
I am considering an order after seeing one in the metal at the end of the year for delivery in 2016.

Perhaps it is worth waiting for 2017?
Why? Any price increases, which are highly likely, will cost way more than a little extra on road tax.
Because of resale values.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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JumboBeef said:
Fidd said:
Avdb said:
I am considering an order after seeing one in the metal at the end of the year for delivery in 2016.

Perhaps it is worth waiting for 2017?
Why? Any price increases, which are highly likely, will cost way more than a little extra on road tax.
Because of resale values.
It won't affect us early buyers too much I would suspect purely because of the difference in prices as well as tax.

When selling our cars, they'll be two years older & thus cheaper for a buyer than those cars that have the cheaper tax, so what you would save on tax you'd have to shell out to buy a car that has the cheaper rate. That's on top of the fact that in two year's time, Ford will have hiked the price anyway, never mind to include the new rate of tax, so I think the gap between the price of our cars secondhand vs these cheaper tax versions will be big enough that it won't drive our prices down by any significant amount.

Not that I care 'cos mine isn't going anywhere anytime soon. biggrin

croyde

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23,012 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Me too. I'm hoping to still have this car in 20 years time when it'll be a classic.

mattus

160 posts

201 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Lol biggrin ..funny how this thread has moved on ...
I'm still just hoping to have my car in Nov 2015 ..! and meeting up with some of the (prospective) owners that I recognise by name on here by now.
Be interesting to look back at the 'pain' and uncertainty we were put through due to lack of information when the car was officially launched. The fact that we became the 'experts' before (most of) the appointed Ford Stores thx to Pistonheads and Mustang 6G.
Now I'm just plain excited .

have fun
Matt

Supertile

53 posts

112 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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Apparently my car is scheduled to be built around the 10th August, I have a link (using my Vin) for my "window sticker", once this link goes live, my car will be built 5 days later !!!!!
Still looking like November delivery though

CJ01

14 posts

111 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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So a spectacular piece of "no news at all" from me here but, while Supertile is racing ahead in the excitement stakes, I swung in by my dealer today as I was in the vicinity. Ordered 24/01/2015. Car is visible on their Ford system but hasn't been allocated a VIN or a build date yet. Dealership is expecting to get their demonstrator in October/November. Expectation was that a car ordered on the date I ordered was likely to be included in the first batch of cars. My order is for a fastback and it is suggested elsewhere - as you all probably already know - that there is some issue with the convertibles which may lead to delays in their build. No idea if there is any truth in that or not. Can't recall seeing any of the phots from Germany showing a convertible.

Dealer reckons it'll be a couple of weeks before activity really starts ramping up and the information starts to flow.

Also, doubtless everyone else noticed that the Euro spec phots seem to suggest the car has a K brace but no tower strut brace.

Not sure there is much point drawing any conclusions particularly when you look at what seems to be going on over in Oz - delivery dates there seem to be jumping around like a box of frogs.

As for the tax thing, I suppose if you're looking to sell in 2025 and a punter has a choice of a 8 year old car paying £140 a year or a 10 year old car paying £550 a year, it might impact the resale a little but prior to that, I doubt it'll make much if any difference.

I'd be a bit puzzled to find a punter who wanted my V8 but got put off by the additional tax - if you're gonna worry about that what must the prospective fuel bills be doing to you !

It strikes me that the V8 buyers are more interested in the more emotive considerations of owning a Mustang than they are the cost of car tax. I do agree however that we're likely to see significant price hikes once the cars get on the road and the less obsessed start rubbernecking the early adopters as they go screaming by at a hundred smiles per hour.

I also think its going to be a bit weird taxing pretty much the same vehicle at a different level just because it was built a year earlier and I do wonder whether that will actually be or remain the case for long.

So, despite my complete lack of news and a slightly weird approach to car tax, I'm still as anxious as ever to get behind the wheel.

Finally, can I just flag this up : http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2... which you've probably all read but just in case - a valiant attempt to tentatively start organising a bit of a mass meet on the roads of Scotland sometime next year. Getting a 2015 Mustang ? Get involved.

slowhand99

242 posts

109 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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croyde said:
Me too. I'm hoping to still have this car in 20 years time when it'll be a classic.
I'm still hoping mine will arrive before then.

sumpoil

431 posts

165 months

Thursday 9th July 2015
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CJ01 said:
Also, doubtless everyone else noticed that the Euro spec phots seem to suggest the car has a K brace but no tower strut brace.
The review in EVO had an under-bonnet photo and there was definitely a strut brace. I'm assuming it was an EU spec car (it was on German plates), so it's the usual contradictory information filtering through with nothing actually confirmed by Ford confused

sumpoil

431 posts

165 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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..... tumbleweed .....

steiom

95 posts

112 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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sumpoil said:
..... tumbleweed .....
Was thinking the same. It's just 164 days until Christmas, by which time many will have cars sat happily on our driveways, and all this will seem a distant memory.

In fact, it's Q3 now, with many of us expecting delivery next quarter, and I'm not sure that I know much more than i did back in January.

So what i could really do with now is a build date.
And an estimated delivery date.
And a VIN.
And an up-to-date detailed brochure / technical spec.
And sight of a RHD car.
And all the other stuff we don't know answered.

But then, is not knowing all adding to the excitement and anticipation, and the frequency of forum visits? I guess it is...

spudgun08

180 posts

183 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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R


Had this come through in my email today. They have a Mustang in Ipswich at john Grose tel: 01473 276806 on Friday. May I also recommend the superb salesman there by the name of Richard Carter, friendly, helpful and knowledgeable. And no, I don't work for Ford haha, just giving credit where it's due smile

croyde

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23,012 posts

231 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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I'm heading back home to London from Norwich on Friday. If this is a RHD UK one, I'd make a wee detour.

DSLiverpool

14,780 posts

203 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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The convertible has a release handle and needs two trim panels fitting when the roof is down - Christ my 2004 SL didn't need that. The trim panels on that we're mechanised - these are loose on the boot.

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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croyde said:
I'm heading back home to London from Norwich on Friday. If this is a RHD UK one, I'd make a wee detour.
It won't be.

steiom

95 posts

112 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Is it just me or has the Mustang vanished from the Ford UK website?

sumpoil

431 posts

165 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Nope .... not just you.

Maybe - at long last - they've finally got round to updating the Mustang web pages and improving the previously downright blcensoredy awful car configurator! clap

.... or maybe (in my dreams!) they're adding the GT350! wink