So who has ordered the new S550 Mustang?

[slowhand99]

OddCat said:

It beggars belief that Ford could be so stupid / careless. What on earth are they thinking ?

Spoil the ship for a ha'porth of (underseal) !

It's not an error, it's deliberate. They are coating the diff and rear suspension components that rust. They also hit the prop and exhaust. US Mustangs are never under sealed on the body. Some say it's a tax dodge to claim the cars are finished in Europe.

[rolster]

Have been advised by my dealer that my car was built on the 8th of May and will be delivered to me in mid July now. Great improvement on the end of September beginning of October delivery date I was originally advised.
Must be people holding off or changing for the 2018 cars or such.
Not complaining as not used to delivery dates for anything coming forward here in France.

[Garvin]

rolster said:

Have been advised by my dealer that my car was built on the 8th of May and will be delivered to me in mid July now. Great improvement on the end of September beginning of October delivery date I was originally advised.
Must be people holding off or changing for the 2018 cars or such.
Not complaining as not used to delivery dates for anything coming forward here in France.

I suspect they are trying to clear all the non US cars ordered before the MY18 model comes on line later this year otherwise specs/prices will differ and a lot of upset customers.

[Regiment]

Picked mine up Wednesday evening from Nottingham Trent Bridge dealership...I'll let everyone know when the grin disappears from my face

[IronPaul]

rolster said:

Have been advised by my dealer that my car was built on the 8th of May and will be delivered to me in mid July now. Great improvement on the end of September beginning of October delivery date I was originally advised.
Must be people holding off or changing for the 2018 cars or such.
Not complaining as not used to delivery dates for anything coming forward here in France.

Ive been told that mine left the factory on the 9th of May, with a delivery date of late July ... so here's hoping !

[kristian87]

IronPaul said:

Ive been told that mine left the factory on the 9th of May, with a delivery date of late July ... so here's hoping !

Hey there...new to the forum. I'm Kristian, spend most of my time on Mustang6g naturally! Joined here to place an ad for my Ecoboost, which will shortly be replaced by a GT

Looks like the 3 of us are on in the same boat (literally!). Mine was built 05/05/2017 and I found out recently it arrived at the Baltimore port on Monday 22/05. It's on the Tonsberg which according to the schedule leaves 01/06 and arrives in Zeebrugge 12/06. So, depending on the turnaround time in Zeebrugge, our cars may be at the dealerships at the end of June! Optimistically of course.

Cheers

[OddCat]

kristian87 said:

Joined here to place an ad for my Ecoboost, which will shortly be replaced by a GT
Cheers

Just out of interest, why are you not part exchanging your existing car with the dealership from whom you are buying the new GT ?

[kristian87]

OddCat said:

Just out of interest, why are you not part exchanging your existing car with the dealership from whom you are buying the new GT ?

Well I may have to take the PE if I cannot sell it. Dealer trade in value vs what I could get privately may differ anywhere between £1k and £4k i think.

I didnt buy the car outright so the more I sell for means more deposit for the GT, less on the monthly payments etc. An ambitious plan I know, and I wasnt expecting my order to progress this quickly but worth a shot I thought

[OddCat]

slowhand99 said:

It's not an error, it's deliberate. They are coating the diff and rear suspension components that rust. They also hit the prop and exhaust.

Are you saying that what Ford do is sufficient and that there is no need to have the underseal re-done / finished properly as many in here seem to think ?

[bigblockmark]

I was a modurstang with mine yesterday for underseal, cat back and Airaid. Take it from me, ford shouldn't have bothered undersealing my car. Apart from the exhaust and part of the diff, nothing else has been protected. The sealant modurstang use is rubberised, will last forever and will not let all the crap stick to it like glue
I can not recommend Mike and his crew enough, their attention to detail is second too none, I am in the motor trade, so speak with some experience.
Great Job chaps.
Mark

[slowhand99]

OddCat said:

Are you saying that what Ford do is sufficient and that there is no need to have the underseal re-done / finished properly as many in here seem to think ?

I'm not saying it's sufficient, just that it was what Ford intended. They clearly believe that the body protection is adequate to back up the corrosion warranty, only time will tell. No Mustangs receive factory underseal and they never have so Ford must have a reason for believing it's OK. A friend of mine imported a brand new S197 from the factory in 2006. The only bits that have corrosion to date are the bits that Ford have sprayed on ours. If mine was a daily driver I think I'd have had it done myself. It's not, it's garaged and I've decided not to. you pay your money and you take your choice.

[rolster]

Greetings all, just been advised my Mustang is unloading now in Zeebruge so should be with me by the end of the month now! Delivery time keeps getting better and better.

[Merc 450]

Garvin said:

bigblockmark said:

Stunning, congratulations.
I have already booked mine in for underneath at modurstang. What are you doing on top?
Mark

Thanks. It goes to Modurstang on Tuesday for the full underbody treatment (there really is precious little under seal on the car at the moment) and then to Warman-Detailing on Thursday for the full clean, light polish and Gtechniq Crystal Serum Black (CS + Exo) treatment (body and rims).

Good luck for Wednesday - not long now!

I don't want to trawl through 150 pages but am I missing something why are people undersealing brand new cars and how much does it cost, surely new cars should come with an anti corrosion warranty. Also trying to work out the road tax on a one year old 5.0 GT, I've got one on my shortlist and have told my local Arnold Clark to find me a one year old red or yellow one for next January when the PCP on my Audi finishes

[djc206]

Merc 450 said:

I don't want to trawl through 150 pages but am I missing something why are people undersealing brand new cars and how much does it cost, surely new cars should come with an anti corrosion warranty. Also trying to work out the road tax on a one year old 5.0 GT, I've got one on my shortlist and have told my local Arnold Clark to find me a one year old red or yellow one for next January when the PCP on my Audi finishes

Not sure about undersealing, presumably these people are keeping their cars for more than a couple of years.

Year old GT tax is about £500/yr. Cars egistered after 1st April 2017 would either be £140 or £450 depending on whether they cost over £40k

[Garvin]

djc206 said:

Merc 450 said:

I don't want to trawl through 150 pages but am I missing something why are people undersealing brand new cars and how much does it cost, surely new cars should come with an anti corrosion warranty. Also trying to work out the road tax on a one year old 5.0 GT, I've got one on my shortlist and have told my local Arnold Clark to find me a one year old red or yellow one for next January when the PCP on my Audi finishes

Not sure about undersealing, presumably these people are keeping their cars for more than a couple of years.

Year old GT tax is about £500/yr. Cars egistered after 1st April 2017 would either be £140 or £450 depending on whether they cost over £40k

You have to look under the vehicle at the floor pans to realise that there is only primer applied. I have no idea how well the underside is protected - e.g. galvanised in some way or other. It looks as though stones etc. would chip through that paint in no time allowing the tin worm to get hold. Coupled with the extensive use of salt on the road in winter in this country then there is a risk that some serious corrosion might take hold.

Of course, these will not rust through in a couple of years without undersealing but you might begin to see the tell tale signs of paint bubbling around the wheel arches etc. in not too many years more. Time will tell - this version of the Mustang is too new for such things to surface yet. Typically full undersealing will cost somewhere between £500 and £1k.

VED wise, as stated previously, vehicles taxed after 1st April this year will attract future annual VED at a rate of £140 unless the vehicle cost, including options, tops £40k - you would have to go some to get a Mustang above £40k but is possible for an automatic, convertible GT with all the trimmings. The up front 1st year VED is, post 1st April, £2k and the overall VED cost over 3 years is only marginally different between the two options either side of the 1st April for a sub £40k vehicle. After that, of course (and providing the evil government doesn't change the rules - some hope perhaps!), the VED is much cheaper.

In summary, if you want to keep the vehicle for 3 years or less then it doesn't matter much whether you underseal or have taken delivery before or after 1st April. if you want to keep the vehicle for longer then undersealing and getting the lower VED could be finacially attractive, particularly at re sale time.

[Merc 450]

Garvin said:

djc206 said:

Merc 450 said:

I don't want to trawl through 150 pages but am I missing something why are people undersealing brand new cars and how much does it cost, surely new cars should come with an anti corrosion warranty. Also trying to work out the road tax on a one year old 5.0 GT, I've got one on my shortlist and have told my local Arnold Clark to find me a one year old red or yellow one for next January when the PCP on my Audi finishes

Not sure about undersealing, presumably these people are keeping their cars for more than a couple of years.

Year old GT tax is about £500/yr. Cars egistered after 1st April 2017 would either be £140 or £450 depending on whether they cost over £40k

You have to look under the vehicle at the floor pans to realise that there is only primer applied. I have no idea how well the underside is protected - e.g. galvanised in some way or other. It looks as though stones etc. would chip through that paint in no time allowing the tin worm to get hold. Coupled with the extensive use of salt on the road in winter in this country then there is a risk that some serious corrosion might take hold.

Of course, these will not rust through in a couple of years without undersealing but you might begin to see the tell tale signs of paint bubbling around the wheel arches etc. in not too many years more. Time will tell - this version of the Mustang is too new for such things to surface yet. Typically full undersealing will cost somewhere between £500 and £1k.

VED wise, as stated previously, vehicles taxed after 1st April this year will attract future annual VED at a rate of £140 unless the vehicle cost, including options, tops £40k - you would have to go some to get a Mustang above £40k but is possible for an automatic, convertible GT with all the trimmings. The up front 1st year VED is, post 1st April, £2k and the overall VED cost over 3 years is only marginally different between the two options either side of the 1st April for a sub £40k vehicle. After that, of course (and providing the evil government doesn't change the rules - some hope perhaps!), the VED is much cheaper.

In summary, if you want to keep the vehicle for 3 years or less then it doesn't matter much whether you underseal or have taken delivery before or after 1st April. if you want to keep the vehicle for longer then undersealing and getting the lower VED could be finacially attractive, particularly at re sale time.

Thanks for that i'm 52 and intend to leave it to one of my daughters so longterm car (hopefully) Standard red 5.0 GT at arnold clark currently £38095 including VED

[Garvin]

Merc 450 said:

Thanks for that i'm 52 and intend to leave it to one of my daughters so longterm car (hopefully) Standard red 5.0 GT at arnold clark currently £38095 including VED

Mine is destined to be a long term vehicle so I delayed registration by a month to get the longer term cheaper VED and also had it fully undersealed (and ceramic coated). If I decide to sell in the future then at least it has advantages over a similarly specced GT which is not undersealed and attracts significantly more annual VED payments!

[OddCat]

I think I might be missing something here. Car ad below says £140 road tax per annum. Meaning it must have had a list price sub £40k. But asking price is £44k ? Surely the seller isn't expecting a £4k premium over original cost ?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

[djc206]

OddCat said:

I think I might be missing something here. Car ad below says £140 road tax per annum. Meaning it must have had a list price sub £40k. But asking price is £44k ? Surely the seller isn't expecting a £4k premium over original cost ?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

I've got the same car although mine doesn't have custom pack because I didn't like the alloys (still ticked all the options) and was registered on 1st March, I paid £38705 OTR. Using the mustang configurator to order the same car now would still be sub £42k so the markup is pretty huge.

[slowhand99]

OddCat said:

I think I might be missing something here. Car ad below says £140 road tax per annum. Meaning it must have had a list price sub £40k. But asking price is £44k ? Surely the seller isn't expecting a £4k premium over original cost ?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Looks like he is. Whoever originally taxed it will also have had a refund on the £2k first year charge as tax is no longer transferable. Hopefully his price includes VED?

Still, if it's too expensive, it won't sell.