Bioshock Infinite
Discussion
Salgar said:
I thought I did, but I just read some more about the post credit's scene, I didn't realise that only comstock was 'killed' at the end, and booker survived but Anna disappeared at the point she would've been taken by comstock, because I DUNNO LOL.
More here: http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/19/understanding-bi...
Thanks for that link, because I was the same as you. More here: http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/19/understanding-bi...
Just arrived in central Emporia. The boss fight with the Vox handyman at the end of the Finkton chapter was a piece of piss with the Winter shield gear. It gives you brief invulnerability when jumping to or from skylines (indicated by your health and shield bar freezing over). I just swung around on the skyline using the skyline strike to kill the regular enemies, or using the winter shield invulnerability to wade in with melee strikes, letting the brittle skin / shocking touch / vampire kiss combo do it's work.
When the handyman showed up I just finished off the last of the enemies, opened the tesla coil tear at the rear of the arena then jumped on and off the low flying skyline just next to the coil. As the handyman ran in, he electrocuted himself, and I kept hitting him with the brittle skin / electric touch melee attack to stun him, hit him with a few shotgun shells then jumped back on and off the rail without actually travelling away on it to refill my invulnerability period. Made a potentially nightmarish fight very easy.
Now the only real tough bits left are the siren fights and the final airship battle. I'll have the charge vigor fully upgraded before I meet the siren, so she will be crushed underfoot. Hopefully I'll have 1999 mode polished off before the end of the weekend.
When the handyman showed up I just finished off the last of the enemies, opened the tesla coil tear at the rear of the arena then jumped on and off the low flying skyline just next to the coil. As the handyman ran in, he electrocuted himself, and I kept hitting him with the brittle skin / electric touch melee attack to stun him, hit him with a few shotgun shells then jumped back on and off the rail without actually travelling away on it to refill my invulnerability period. Made a potentially nightmarish fight very easy.
Now the only real tough bits left are the siren fights and the final airship battle. I'll have the charge vigor fully upgraded before I meet the siren, so she will be crushed underfoot. Hopefully I'll have 1999 mode polished off before the end of the weekend.
Bioshock Infinite: 1000/1000GS. Unlike most games, this one gets easier the further you get through it. Once you get the charge vigor on 1999 mode, you are invincible. The first 2 hours are by far the hardest part, when you have no shield or a tiny shield, no vigors, a pistol and a few machine gun bullets.
Finally finished it. Got to the final battle then had to travel with work for a while so didn't finish it. Just waiting for the credits to end.
Did not disappoint, but now I need to read a lot of the plot summaries to get my head around everything.
Brilliant game though, can't wait until the next bioshock. To me this is how single player games should be. It might not have the best game play, but easily has the best story telling I've come across, and was a far more satifying experience than anything else I've ever played.
Did not disappoint, but now I need to read a lot of the plot summaries to get my head around everything.
Brilliant game though, can't wait until the next bioshock. To me this is how single player games should be. It might not have the best game play, but easily has the best story telling I've come across, and was a far more satifying experience than anything else I've ever played.
jon- said:
Finally finished it. Got to the final battle then had to travel with work for a while so didn't finish it. Just waiting for the credits to end.
Did not disappoint, but now I need to read a lot of the plot summaries to get my head around everything.
Brilliant game though, can't wait until the next bioshock. To me this is how single player games should be. It might not have the best game play, but easily has the best story telling I've come across, and was a far more satifying experience than anything else I've ever played.
Spot onDid not disappoint, but now I need to read a lot of the plot summaries to get my head around everything.
Brilliant game though, can't wait until the next bioshock. To me this is how single player games should be. It might not have the best game play, but easily has the best story telling I've come across, and was a far more satifying experience than anything else I've ever played.
Finished it yesterday (well, 2 days ago by the time I post this). Really enjoyed it, though at times just felt like I was hacking away at the jungle with a machete with the canon fodder enemies.
They laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
They laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
Otispunkmeyer said:
Finished it yesterday (well, 2 days ago by the time I post this). Really enjoyed it, though at times just felt like I was hacking away at the jungle with a machete with the canon fodder enemies.
They laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
Yup. That pretty much does it. They laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
Otispunkmeyer said:
Finished it yesterday (well, 2 days ago by the time I post this). Really enjoyed it, though at times just felt like I was hacking away at the jungle with a machete with the canon fodder enemies.
They laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
my head hurts They laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
Otispunkmeyer said:
Finished it yesterday (well, 2 days ago by the time I post this). Really enjoyed it, though at times just felt like I was hacking away at the jungle with a machete with the canon fodder enemies.
They laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
Very goodThey laid it on thick towards the end, tying the story up and answering your questions (including the ones you never knew you asked!) very quickly. I can see how it could make no sense to people. I think prior exposure to similar time loop, paradox, multiverse things in movies and tv shows etc helps with understanding what happened at the end. It wasn't 100% clear at the time of seeing it, but 5 minutes thinking after the credits rolled and I think I got it pretty sorted. I did find an online explanation that filled in some of the back story holes I missed such as....
The Lucete twins actually not being twins, but 2 versions of the same person and the fact that the character Booker is stuck in an infinite loop, having been on the same quest to retrieve Elizabeth (his daughter) over 100 times. This is apparently explained by the scene where the Lucete twins ask Brooker to flip a coin and there are over 100 tick marks on the chalk board for heads. Basically Booker takes the test and each time its heads, chance, it seems is hard written into the time line.
From what I have seen and read I think the general gist is...
Booker is Comstock
Bookers daughter Anna is Elizabeth
There is no universe where Booker and Anna are together so long as Comstock is present and there is no universe where Comstock and Elizabeth exist without each other.
Booker is Booker after he refused baptism, Comstock is Booker reborn after he accepted the baptism.
The whole thing, Columbia, Elizabeth, Comstock is an infinite loop brought on by the need for Comstock to have a proper heir to his throne and reaching across universes to pluck his other selfs daughter (Anna) for his own use and the Lucete's deciding to work against Comstock and send Booker on a chase for the girl, Anna/Elizabeth.
Killing Booker at the baptism where he accepts the baptism, means Comstock is never created and the whole series of events after that never happens. Columbia isnt created, Anna isn't pinched to be moulded into Elizabeth and the Lucetes don't send you on a chase to get her. The whole thing is a loop until that one time, the a decision is made to break the loop and destroy it. The time line should continue with Booker and Anna existing together, but Anna will never be Elizabeth.
I think thats sorta the gist!
HerrSchnell said:
I thought I was going to be possessed with the mighty power of an Ox for the measly sum of 0.90 Euro, sadly it turned out to be just milk.
I confess that, whilst laying Fallout3 too much, I once got excited by seeing 50 hairgrips for sale in the supermarket until reality reasserted itself.
Something just occurred to me. Bit random, I know, but Elizabeth said there is always a girl, and there is always a lighthouse. And, although she doesn't say it, a male protagonist who ends up being a father figure..
In Dishonored, there is a girl, and at the end, a lighthouse. And she is strongly implied to be your daughter too.
Mind blown.
In Dishonored, there is a girl, and at the end, a lighthouse. And she is strongly implied to be your daughter too.
Mind blown.
Great ending, but like a few others I think Bioshock and Bioshock 2 were better games judged as a whole. Still, I won't argue that Elizabeth is probably the best AI companion I've ever experienced in a game. When she's in trouble you genuinely care about helping her, when she's not there, you miss her, and as the realisation of the ending dawns on you, I'd gladly have accepted death in order to keep her from ever having to go through that again.
It's just a little bittersweet to know that while Anna will still live on in one form or another, she'll never become Elizabeth.
It's just a little bittersweet to know that while Anna will still live on in one form or another, she'll never become Elizabeth.
SimianWonder said:
Great ending, but like a few others I think Bioshock and Bioshock 2 were better games judged as a whole. Still, I won't argue that Elizabeth is probably the best AI companion I've ever experienced in a game. When she's in trouble you genuinely care about helping her, when she's not there, you miss her, and as the realisation of the ending dawns on you, I'd gladly have accepted death in order to keep her from ever having to go through that again.
It's just a little bittersweet to know that while Anna will still live on in one form or another, she'll never become Elizabeth.
She was the best AI companion, but I'd argue that Ellie in The Last of Us has pipped her to that particular accolade now.It's just a little bittersweet to know that while Anna will still live on in one form or another, she'll never become Elizabeth.
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