Gran turismo 5....the official thread [Vol 2]
Discussion
ah yes, and is on PH today: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Chris Stott said:
What tyres are you running it on? I've tried a few times to tune it at stock power on sports hards for the 'Ring and failed to get any sort of decent balance... and I'm a fair driver and a decent tuner. IME, it has way too much lift-off oversteer, and the only way you can cure that results in an understeering shopping trolley!
I a have a G27 too, nice wheel.. the 'simulation' setting doesn't affect the G series wheels.
Totally stock, sports hard tyres, all aids off except ABS=1. Here's a demonstration of how one (IMO) drives a Porsche:I a have a G27 too, nice wheel.. the 'simulation' setting doesn't affect the G series wheels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvDD8V9Liq8 (no, not Stefan Roser in that video!)
It's hard to put into words, I drive it more like a mid-engine car, using the brakes or a lift to rotate the car early, keeping some throttle on to tame the entry-oversteer, ease the power on and straighten up for the exit, then power away. You can be too gentle at low speeds, it just understeers, but you can't take liberties either. You have to be real careful with the throttle in 2nd. At high speed the lack of downforce makes the car very nervous - it feels like a lack of grip. The reality is that this car just has serious power, you find yourself going much quicker than you realise. It's an old girl and won't have the grip and poise of a newer car with similar power, but that's what makes it so entertaining. The run from Bergwerk to Karussell is scary because if you're not super super gentle, lifting off even slightly will have it backing out into a barrier like you said.
I've recorded a lap of Spa that I can send to you if you PM me your email address, it might just be my style of driving, I don't know, it's by no means a tidy lap (very nearly dropped it into Blanchimont when I missed a gear) and I'm not a fast driver, I just find the YB a really enjoyable beast to tame.
Edited by RenesisEvo on Monday 14th January 22:39
I can drive it if I'm really in the mood, but I don't really enjoy it most of the time (unless drifting) as the line between fast and crash is too narrow.
And I do believe PD got the balance of the Yellowbird wrong - I've seen the Stefan Roser video (amazing car control), but as I understand it, that car was set up specifically to allow him to drift the backside off it. Here's another video of one at Magny-Cours that shows it doesn't have to be such an evil SOB out on the track...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ex3IILPJxc
Looks much more stable (and VERY fast!) on that video.
And I do believe PD got the balance of the Yellowbird wrong - I've seen the Stefan Roser video (amazing car control), but as I understand it, that car was set up specifically to allow him to drift the backside off it. Here's another video of one at Magny-Cours that shows it doesn't have to be such an evil SOB out on the track...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ex3IILPJxc
Looks much more stable (and VERY fast!) on that video.
Alfanatic said:
I seem to recall Evo driving one many years ago, being impressed at how fast it felt so long after it was introduced, and not feeling like it was going to kill them every time they twitched.
Chris Stott said:
Looks much more stable (and VERY fast!) on that video.
Agreed with both in principle. Without actually sitting behind the wheel of one around the same track (and pigs might fly), it's going to be very hard to know how it behaves for real compared to PD's interpretation of it. That video at Magny-Cours, its really hard to know how much the driver was pushing (and we've no idea what he was doing with his feet), but it seemed very well controlled, smooth and steady, if you drove the car in the game in the same manner I expect it would seem much the same. But I have more fun deliberately dancing about on/over the limit, clearly in that video the driver wasn't doing that (and quite rightly too!)What we must remember is that GT5 is still a /game and so there will be alterations/compromises/errors accordingly. I well remember the inability to get anything oversteering in GT4 without serious tuning.
Thoughts on the C7 Corvette? 7th gear is clearly overdrive (thankfully, the G27 only has 6 speeds on the shifter), goes well enough but the noise I find is a touch dull.
RenesisEvo said:
Thoughts on the C7 Corvette? 7th gear is clearly overdrive (thankfully, the G27 only has 6 speeds on the shifter), goes well enough but the noise I find is a touch dull.
Er.. does that mean you can't use 7th? Or for that matter 15th in the ISF? Does it not have a sequential thinggy or flappy paddles even?Anyway, the C7 is rubbish. You can't do anything to it, you can't even paint it. Does it only come in that ugly grey?
Pwig said:
Sounds daft, has anyone got a Lupo I can borrow? It's the only race I haven't won and I can't find one anywhere!
What kind? I think I've got a cup car (or maybe a few in different colours 
) if that's any good?scarble said:
Er.. does that mean you can't use 7th? Or for that matter 15th in the ISF? Does it not have a sequential thinggy or flappy paddles even?
The G27 has paddles so you can get nth gear using them. But if you use the H-pattern shifter, replicating what the Corvette does have, you are limited to the first 6 gears, as 7-speed manuals hadn't made it to a production car when the G27 was launched. Driving the IS-F with the manual shifter, it still auto-blips for you, which means you can pretend to be a heel-n-toe deity. That's the biggest advantage of the G27, being able to move the pedals and space them for heel-n-toe.
Well blow me down.
Purchased myself the Logitech Driving Force GT Wheel this evening and holy s
t.
What a difference from the controller (no st). Never had a FF wheel before so I was blown away by it to be honest.
Will take time and patience to get used to it but I can see how once I've improved using it, my game will come on leaps and bounds
Purchased myself the Logitech Driving Force GT Wheel this evening and holy s
t.What a difference from the controller (no s
t). Never had a FF wheel before so I was blown away by it to be honest.Will take time and patience to get used to it but I can see how once I've improved using it, my game will come on leaps and bounds
lexusboy said:
Well blow me down.
Purchased myself the Logitech Driving Force GT Wheel this evening and holy st.
What a difference from the controller (no st). Never had a FF wheel before so I was blown away by it to be honest.
Will take time and patience to get used to it but I can see how once I've improved using it, my game will come on leaps and bounds
yes I found I was slower at first, especially at catching slides, but then you learn that smooth = fast so you shouldn't have slides to catch anyway. I did find that increasing controller sensitivity in the quick tune menu (to 4) helped though (although mine is the T500RS which has a slower 'rack' I think)Purchased myself the Logitech Driving Force GT Wheel this evening and holy s
t.What a difference from the controller (no s
t). Never had a FF wheel before so I was blown away by it to be honest.Will take time and patience to get used to it but I can see how once I've improved using it, my game will come on leaps and bounds
The other day I went online and in a room with special stage X and went for a spin. I was doing about 217 when a Delorian jumped over me and flew past with at least 100mph difference.
Turns out GT5 has been hacked and every noob and his mum has a 3000hp civic/delorian/FGT/X1/307 as they're being traded/duped. Not sure how the X1/FGT are making the rounds but they are.
Apparently there's an NSX too but only French are allowed that.
So yea it's massively game breaking and I hope they fix it soon!
Turns out GT5 has been hacked and every noob and his mum has a 3000hp civic/delorian/FGT/X1/307 as they're being traded/duped. Not sure how the X1/FGT are making the rounds but they are.
Apparently there's an NSX too but only French are allowed that.
So yea it's massively game breaking and I hope they fix it soon!
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