Elite: Dangerous

[Wayoftheflower]

Zad said:

. For some reason boosted speed seems to generate more agility than normal flight speed.

It's definitely true that boosted turns are faster. There's some good guides out there as to best use in combat.


For Explorers wanting to relax a bit while seeing the galaxy there's the option of hitching on a fleet carrier.

See this thread for the route of The Spear of Bitter Mercy. https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/j...

[texaxile]

FourWheelDrift said:

If you travel somewhere you are more than likely going to take the same route as someone else before you. Usually on a flat plain route, try going off route then you will find unexplored systems. Plus with the long routes you are going to try and get there quickly with maximum jump ranges, or even longer with neutron jumps, missing out systems in between. So you jump 50 or 60 ly, but if you did a 30 you might find something. I have done a few routes and deliberately gone off route up or down and had my name as first discovered on systems and planets.

Ahhh, yes, that's the case here, although it is slightly reassuring to see that other explorers have been on the same route. it appears that anywhere of interest is slowly developing into a well beaten path. I'm finally back into the Elysian shore, now heading up to where it joins with the Vulcan Gate and Marches (although that is a looong way away). It did get slightly dicey at one point in the Formidine when I kept getting to dead ends and had to keep back trackingm, but eventually got a route out and into the denser starfield.
Last night I mapped a virgin Water World with rings, landed on a planet with Magma fumaroles and generally took in the view.

FLK said:

You could try using the Heisenberg Bridge, your DBX must at least have a low 30 Ly range? You will probably need to go up the galactic arm a little bit once you've crossed the route and then you should be able to make it to the Zurara's system. I did this using a 32 Ly ship when I first visited it.

That's interesting, I'd seen mention of it on Reddit before, but didn't realise it was actually a route. Thanks for the heads up, I'll check it out on my way back from the next 2 sectors.
My DBX has a jump range of about 36ly give or take. To be honest I didn't really plan on going any further out of the bubble than the Bubble Nebula, it was going to be a round trip and then back to doing some community goals in the Hauler, but wanderlust took hold and I find it a good way to de stress, so I've taken a leisurely drive around and here I am. I'll get my proper location after this evening, hopefully somewhat closer to the edge of the next sector than I am now.

[kiseca]

Interesting, from that map it looks like there might be no star in the galaxy that someone hasn't been within about 100 light years of already. Still, apparently only 0.003% of the systems in the galaxy have been visited thus far.

[texaxile]

kiseca said:

Interesting, from that map it looks like there might be no star in the galaxy that someone hasn't been within about 100 light years of already. Still, apparently only 0.003% of the systems in the galaxy have been visited thus far.

I'm currently running alongside what seems to be a massive field of Y, T and L brown dwarf stars, I expect none of these are explored as they contain rocky and ice planets, so if I jump into such a system I don't even bother "honking", just FSD into the next one. However, on a route such as this a few of the yellow and "fuel" stars have been visited, most probably because players will honk and scan while fuel scooping.

as 4wheeldrift said, on the routes to poi's the systems have mostly been discovered and mapped, but I did as suggested, dropped down a bit on the plane and took a different route, and I'm back into virgin system territory. Even 2k out of the bubble a lot of stuff was already discovered, and I'm currently 14.5k out and still stumble upon the odd system here and there.

Here I was entering the Bubble Nebula..."in the pink" as they say

[Wayoftheflower]

kiseca said:

Interesting, from that map it looks like there might be no star in the galaxy that someone hasn't been within about 100 light years of already. Still, apparently only 0.003% of the systems in the galaxy have been visited thus far.

If you check out the brilliant interactive Elite:Dangerous Astromony map here.
https://edastro.com/galmap/
and toggle the "saturation option" you'll see where that 0.003% comes from...

When I was at Explorer's Bar & Grill at the very end of a galactic arm I did notice that the star density is so low (and dedicated explorers so insane) that there was very little that hadn't already been discovered.

[kiseca]

Wayoftheflower said:

If you check out the brilliant interactive Elite:Dangerous Astromony map here.
https://edastro.com/galmap/
and toggle the "saturation option" you'll see where that 0.003% comes from...

When I was at Explorer's Bar & Grill at the very end of a galactic arm I did notice that the star density is so low (and dedicated explorers so insane) that there was very little that hadn't already been discovered.

Yes I see what you mean, it's mostly in the galactic centre. The outer rim has been mostly explored all the way around.

[Zad]

Anyone going to have a go at the current Thargoid Community Goal? I thought I might give it a go, but having looked at a few videos and guides, it seems waaaay out of my league!

[Wayoftheflower]

Zad said:

Anyone going to have a go at the current Thargoid Community Goal? I thought I might give it a go, but having looked at a few videos and guides, it seems waaaay out of my league!

I'm tempted to rush the last couple of kilolights back to have a go myself.

Thargoids are quite a challenge, but anyone can have a go.

As with anything the most fun is to wing up with friends but even Solo you can either drop into a level 2-4 Alien Signal and fight scouts, or hang around the edges of an Alien Combat Zone and try and pick off a scout or two.

Scouts can be damaged by normal weapons, AX weapons are better but not mandatory. The big Interceptors really need Guardian weapons and heavily engineered ships.

Thargoid combat is fun and challenging but you will die quite often!

Their caustic damage over time can really catch you out so the repair limpet controller is highly recommended.

It really is an achievement to Solo an Interceptor and now matter how easy the experts make it look I'm sure they died a lot starting out too.

[oldskoolgent]

i'm a few days into this now and honestly i'm just swamped and cant see the wood for the tree's.
Trying my usual trick of finding you tube vids seems to ahve failed me - there's plenty there but i just can't find a series to get on with ...

i've managed to upgrade to a cobra. i'm flying courier missions between a few local stars and doing an occasional black box run when it pops up.
buuuttt....

Influences ? Factions ? Trading ? Engineering ? What the hell is the FSS scanner ? Why when i scan a system does it tell me wrong mode selected but then do the scan ?

I read the above posts and i have no idea what any of it means.

[Oilchange]

oldskoolgent said:

i'm a few days into this now and honestly i'm just swamped and cant see the wood for the tree's.
Trying my usual trick of finding you tube vids seems to ahve failed me - there's plenty there but i just can't find a series to get on with ...

i've managed to upgrade to a cobra. i'm flying courier missions between a few local stars and doing an occasional black box run when it pops up.
buuuttt....

Influences ? Factions ? Trading ? Engineering ? What the hell is the FSS scanner ? Why when i scan a system does it tell me wrong mode selected but then do the scan ?

I read the above posts and i have no idea what any of it means.

You have 2 scanner modes, one for combat, one for exploring. Check out your keys allocations to see how to swap.

FSS is I think Full Spectral System Scanner, for detailed scans. You can fire off little probes to map planets fully but I haven't done this in a while

I spent hours grinding trading for not that much profit when I could have kitted out for exploration and made much more money, much more quickly but exploration isn't for everyone. I looked at the 'road to riches' thing and got Elite Exploration via it. Plus about 400,000,000 credits and, frankly a bit of a headache!

[Wayoftheflower]

Oilchange said:

oldskoolgent said:

i'm a few days into this now and honestly i'm just swamped and cant see the wood for the tree's.
Trying my usual trick of finding you tube vids seems to ahve failed me - there's plenty there but i just can't find a series to get on with ...

i've managed to upgrade to a cobra. i'm flying courier missions between a few local stars and doing an occasional black box run when it pops up.
buuuttt....

Influences ? Factions ? Trading ? Engineering ? What the hell is the FSS scanner ? Why when i scan a system does it tell me wrong mode selected but then do the scan ?

I read the above posts and i have no idea what any of it means.

You have 2 scanner modes, one for combat, one for exploring. Check out your keys allocations to see how to swap.

FSS is I think Full Spectral System Scanner, for detailed scans. You can fire off little probes to map planets fully but I haven't done this in a while

I spent hours grinding trading for not that much profit when I could have kitted out for exploration and made much more money, much more quickly but exploration isn't for everyone. I looked at the 'road to riches' thing and got Elite Exploration via it. Plus about 400,000,000 credits and, frankly a bit of a headache!

CMDR Exigeous is pretty good for tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRfYYnnOztJ...

There's also the classic lighthearted "5 things you don't know about Elite" https://youtu.be/Wxyro-jmAMI

FSS IS the Full Spectrum Scanner. It IS NOT the Detailed Surface Scanner (DSS)
FSS is what you go into the discover all the bodies in a previously undiscovered system. In a discovered system you can either run FSS or scan the Navigation beacon located near to the star.
Detailed Surface Scanner is the shooting off of probes to find useful stuff on landable planets.

WHY there are two different modes for the HUD is baffling to me, one of those things you have to work around. But no the scanners don't work while in "Combat mode" unless they're thargoid scanners.

The current "meta" for money generation is mining. You can explore and trade efficienly for profit but mining is still the credits/hour king.
See another Exigeous Video here https://youtu.be/jMSjermx5yw?t=104

Combat is woefully under rewarded sadly and anti Thargoid combat even more so.

Fractions? Don't worry about them, except for the fact that the better relations you have with a faction the better mission rewards they will offer.
Engineering? Can improve your ship massively, if you put some extra time in.

Good luck out there!

[Oilchange]

There you are, said I hadn't done it in a while !

[Zad]

I made most of my early money just doing transport missions, trading up to an Asp Explorer which, as the name suggests, is a good explorer, and also a good haulage ship, and has enough space for mining gear. It has a good FSD jump range which makes multi-hop missions somewhat quicker. Once you unlock Felicity Farseer, you can get your FSD engineered (and power plant, thrusters) and increase the jump range quite a lot more.

[texaxile]

oldskoolgent said:

i'm a few days into this now and honestly i'm just swamped and cant see the wood for the tree's.
Trying my usual trick of finding you tube vids seems to ahve failed me - there's plenty there but i just can't find a series to get on with ...

i've managed to upgrade to a cobra. i'm flying courier missions between a few local stars and doing an occasional black box run when it pops up.
buuuttt....

Influences ? Factions ? Trading ? Engineering ? What the hell is the FSS scanner ? Why when i scan a system does it tell me wrong mode selected but then do the scan ?

I read the above posts and i have no idea what any of it means.

I tend not to worry about the factions and influence etc, initially my first missions I just took the money, and as it built up, so did my influence and reputation with the faction in that system, and better and more lucrative missions came along.

One tip is to head for a system with a decent starport not too far away from your FSD arrival and use it as a base My "home" is "Neto" only 650 or so LS from arrival point, it's high tech and within reach of some decent systems. I also cut my teeth doing "courier" jobs which meant that if I was interdicted then there was no cargo to be stolen, plus I played in solo for a wee while just to get the hang of things.

Trade on up to an Asp explorer (referred to as ASX) which is a fairly good all rounder. If you want to experience combat at a low level, kit it out with decent shields , a laser and a ballistic weapon(s) then head to a low risk resource area within the rings of a nearby planet (Neto also has a planet with several rings and low / med / high risk resource areas to find enemies) - these areas are better for finding enemies to shoot than the Nav beacons you see in many systems, as they tend to spawn a bit more frequently plus while you're engaged in combat, the local security guys help you out and you still get credit for the kill. Try not to shoot the good guys though.

the Scanner of which you speak is used in exploration, is called a "D scanner" or detailed surface scanner, you arrive at a system, slow down and switch to your FSS scanner, then you "honk" the system which reveals the orbital lines and types of planetary bodies, you then focus in on a signal (often a glowing blue area) and "tune" your scanner until you see a circle appear, at this point you zoom in with your FSS scanner and it identifies the planet and logs it in your codex. once you have done the whole system (the number of bodies to be discovered is in the top right of the screen) then you get a massage "system scan complete". you can then sell this info at a base which has "Universal cartographics" contact, but the system / spaceport you are selling it to needs to be 20+ LY away from where you scanned.
https://forums-new.frontier.co.uk/threads/wheres-t...

Remember to assign a "fire group" to your FSS scanner, otherwise it won't work. Just think of the FSS mode as a hardpoint mode similar to combat.

[Zad]

If anyone has problems with PvE interdictions, one thing to remember is that when you submit (by reducing your throttle to zero) then as soon as you drop into normal space, your FSD cools down very quickly, much faster than normal. So drop out, quickly jump to your map and select a close-by system to jump to. Face towards the attacker and boost past them and then aim towards your jump portal and jump. You should be able to jump out before the attacker can get back to you. In theory they can follow you, but I've never had it happen to me.

If you have any spare brain capacity in the middle of panicking, you might want to direct power to shields and engines. If you don't ever intend using your weapons then there is no point power into their pips.

[Wayoftheflower]

The above is also sound advice for PVP interdictions. Submitting gives you the fast FSD cool-down and a "high wake" (jumping to another system) is not slowed down by any mass-lock factor. "low wake" is jumping back into supercruise.

One of my gripes with Elite is that with practice PVE interdictions are usually easy to win and just a nuisance whereas PVP interdictions are much much harder. With engineering a PVPer can interdict you from the side or even partially in front.

After a few months exploration I'm back in the bubble now so anyone wanting a to wing up on PC can fire me a friend request. Otherwise I'll probably just be looking for some Thargoid scouts to squish for combat rank.

[Wayoftheflower]

Things to see by CMDR Exigeous.
https://youtu.be/_-2vRhvMRRA
I've been to most of these and they are great.

[kiseca]

Wayoftheflower said:

Things to see by CMDR Exigeous.
https://youtu.be/_-2vRhvMRRA
I've been to most of these and they are great.

Well there's a road trip for me! Thanks for sharing that

[dapprman]

I need to learn the technique to see black holes in the glory you see on YouTube - I went to Collection of Wonders on my way out to Colonia and what they do not say is you will spend an awful long time in supercruise to see the various sites - I could not find an angle which allowed you to see multiple together. Here's my shots of the two black holes to show how I seem to get it wrong.

[Wayoftheflower]

I think because Black holes are usually tiny you have to be going either very slowly in supercruise or in realspace to get nice shots of them. A big nebula in the background is a must. Fingers crossed for accretion discs and warping of the in system visuals sometime.

My favourite part of CoW was the ringed Neutron. If you drop from supercruise at the right distance the ring whizzes past like some demented galactic angle grinder.

Exigeous mention Skardee a planet very close to it's star but out in the Formidine Rift there's a planet where you also can scoop just a km above the ground, Sochi.

My visit to Sochi.
https://youtu.be/uMGO6RDo0ME

There's also the Celestial Clock, a gas giant orbiting every 4 hours
https://youtu.be/5rOkgc6zklY

My old video of Planet with an eccentric orbit and 30hour year. Way over the other side of the galaxy.
https://youtu.be/wKb4bTnVbuk