New PC racing sim - Assetto Corsa
Discussion
LimaDelta said:
Just added the pack with the RS1600 and Brands last night while still on offer. Yet to try them but looks good. The only downside for me is the whole game is very Italian-supercar heavy. Definitely a bargain at the moment though.
Oo, is this AC or ACC? I've loved AC since the start and it's my favourite sim, but I never got into ACC because I found the cars dull. A FF1600 would be fantastic!RobM77 said:
LimaDelta said:
Just added the pack with the RS1600 and Brands last night while still on offer. Yet to try them but looks good. The only downside for me is the whole game is very Italian-supercar heavy. Definitely a bargain at the moment though.
Oo, is this AC or ACC? I've loved AC since the start and it's my favourite sim, but I never got into ACC because I found the cars dull. A FF1600 would be fantastic!
AC Dream Pack 3
RobM77 said:
Ah, sorry, I misread RS1600 as FF1600. Oh well, maybe one day!
Is this what you're looking for?https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/formula-f...
GravelBen said:
Grabbed this on sale too after reading lots of good things about it.
Struggling though, not sure if its down to wheel setup (G27 with some recommended settings from steam community) or just the way the game handles FFB but its almost impossible to slide cars around in control. Driving mostly within the grip and correcting small slides is ok up to a point, but that isn't always as much fun.
Even the Mk1 MX5 (which I know from extensive real-world experience is incredibly forgiving to slide) is a nightmare of almost uncatchable snap oversteer even at low speed, and if you do manage to haul enough opposite lock on fast enough to catch the initial slide there is no feedback for when to take lock off again, so you have to just guess or overcorrect into the wall because the visual cues are too late to do anything about it.
I'll keep trying but its more frustrating than fun after the first few hours.
After a few more hours I've got more accustomed to it, but it still feels quite unnatural - I can slide some cars (GT86 and Supra for example) reasonably well some of the time by forcing myself to drive to what I know the car should be doing, rather than being able to trust the feedback and drive by feel.Struggling though, not sure if its down to wheel setup (G27 with some recommended settings from steam community) or just the way the game handles FFB but its almost impossible to slide cars around in control. Driving mostly within the grip and correcting small slides is ok up to a point, but that isn't always as much fun.
Even the Mk1 MX5 (which I know from extensive real-world experience is incredibly forgiving to slide) is a nightmare of almost uncatchable snap oversteer even at low speed, and if you do manage to haul enough opposite lock on fast enough to catch the initial slide there is no feedback for when to take lock off again, so you have to just guess or overcorrect into the wall because the visual cues are too late to do anything about it.
I'll keep trying but its more frustrating than fun after the first few hours.
What seems to be happening is (at least partly) a lack of realistic self-centering effect, whether its in its steering/suspension kinematics model or in the force feedback I'm not sure. It lets opposite lock wind on fairly naturally when you put the car into a slide and relax your grip, but to avoid a massive overcorrection snap the other way you have to actively force it against the feedback to take the lock off and straighten it out - with strong enough resistance that it rocks my whole (admittedly flimsy) computer desk from side to side.
Any suggestions for making it behave better? I've had a few satisfying sessions which make me want to stick with it, but more often its just frustrating.
I've tried reducing the overall FF force a little from the steam recommended settings I started with, that lightened the resistance to initial turn-in but didn't seem to change the resistance to straightening from opposite lock as far as I noticed.
Current settings:
Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 5th December 09:43
GravelBen said:
GravelBen said:
Grabbed this on sale too after reading lots of good things about it.
Struggling though, not sure if its down to wheel setup (G27 with some recommended settings from steam community) or just the way the game handles FFB but its almost impossible to slide cars around in control. Driving mostly within the grip and correcting small slides is ok up to a point, but that isn't always as much fun.
Even the Mk1 MX5 (which I know from extensive real-world experience is incredibly forgiving to slide) is a nightmare of almost uncatchable snap oversteer even at low speed, and if you do manage to haul enough opposite lock on fast enough to catch the initial slide there is no feedback for when to take lock off again, so you have to just guess or overcorrect into the wall because the visual cues are too late to do anything about it.
I'll keep trying but its more frustrating than fun after the first few hours.
After a few more hours I've got more accustomed to it, but it still feels quite unnatural - I can slide some cars (GT86 and Supra for example) reasonably well some of the time by forcing myself to drive to what I know the car should be doing, rather than being able to trust the feedback and drive by feel.Struggling though, not sure if its down to wheel setup (G27 with some recommended settings from steam community) or just the way the game handles FFB but its almost impossible to slide cars around in control. Driving mostly within the grip and correcting small slides is ok up to a point, but that isn't always as much fun.
Even the Mk1 MX5 (which I know from extensive real-world experience is incredibly forgiving to slide) is a nightmare of almost uncatchable snap oversteer even at low speed, and if you do manage to haul enough opposite lock on fast enough to catch the initial slide there is no feedback for when to take lock off again, so you have to just guess or overcorrect into the wall because the visual cues are too late to do anything about it.
I'll keep trying but its more frustrating than fun after the first few hours.
What seems to be happening is (at least partly) a lack of realistic self-centering effect, whether its in its steering/suspension kinematics model or in the force feedback I'm not sure. It lets opposite lock wind on fairly naturally when you put the car into a slide and relax your grip, but to avoid a massive overcorrection snap the other way you have to actively force it against the feedback to take the lock off and straighten it out - with strong enough resistance that it rocks my whole (admittedly flimsy) computer desk from side to side.
Any suggestions for making it behave better? I've had a few satisfying sessions which make me want to stick with it, but more often its just frustrating.
I've tried reducing the overall FF force a little from the steam recommended settings I started with, that lightened the resistance to initial turn-in but didn't seem to change the resistance to straightening from opposite lock as far as I noticed.
Current settings:
Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 5th December 09:43
Exactly same as you, on oversteer I'm either too slow getting the lock on and just spin, or I unwind too late and snap the other way, and the window for getting it right feels unfeasibly tiny. I'd also add that, with the wheel on 900 degree mode, the steering feels very, very slow all the time. It makes the car very unresponsive and like an old truck.
That's not a problem with the wheel, I've had years of driving GT games and Forza games with 900degree wheels, and a real car obviously
I'd love to know what decent settings look like because so many people love the handling model on this game, but it really isn't gelling for me and I've given up on it.
Hmm.. I can't help, but just for the record I have a G27 and find AC fine - no problems. I'm running the standard AC template for the G27. Sure, the steering feel is not as good as a real car and therefore the cars are a bit harder to drive, but I certainly find AC nicer to drive than the other sims I've tried.
It's clearly possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD8sCn9MbA4
Maybe ask someone successful on YT what their setup is for drifting.
I'm just happy to be able to race!
Maybe ask someone successful on YT what their setup is for drifting.
I'm just happy to be able to race!
AmosMoses said:
I'll post my G27 settings up when i get chance, I love skidding around in this game. The E92 M3 is a good car to start with, once you get to stuff like the 488 its a challenge but it's so rewarding.
The Lotus 49 is one of my favourite cars for normal fast driving, but I must say, if you like sliding around it's fantastic - very little grip and oodles of power from an engine about 20 years ahead of its time. Pretty forgiving too.
Allegro Corsa on YT has a series of AC videos showcasing 5 cars and 5 tracks each,with d/l links and lots of footage. Up to 80 odd so far.
Also having a nightmare with Content Manager, is there a place to change button binding of XBox controller? Set shifting to Auto? And the sky box is a red banner saying "upgrade to version 1.something" Any suggestions?
Also having a nightmare with Content Manager, is there a place to change button binding of XBox controller? Set shifting to Auto? And the sky box is a red banner saying "upgrade to version 1.something" Any suggestions?
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