Fallout 4

[Jasandjules]

Moog72 said:

I believe it's the last expansion that is covered by the season pass and I think I read somewhere it is also the last DLC for the game too, but not 100% sure

Does it download automatically or do you have to select it?

[Moog72]

Jasandjules said:

Does it download automatically or do you have to select it?

I had to go to the Playstation store and download it specifically - as I had the season pass, it showed up as being "Free"

[Wobbegong]

daddy cool said:

Only played an hour or so, got through the gauntlet and had the fight with the bumper-car boss. Fun so far.
Is this going to be the final (proper) expansion pack? Love the game and have got my moneys worth in terms of time (currently level 107) but once ive completed that i think its time to uninstall and free up the space on my 240gb SSD so i can play something else!

Skyrim is coming out on next-gen soon

[Jasandjules]

Moog72 said:

I had to go to the Playstation store and download it specifically - as I had the season pass, it showed up as being "Free"

Ta!

[ZedLeg]

Moog72 said:

I believe it's the last expansion that is covered by the season pass and I think I read somewhere it is also the last DLC for the game too, but not 100% sure

They pretty much said they've stopped working on Fallout as they're moving the team onto new projects. My guess would be Elder Scrolls 6.

[ClockworkCupcake]

Anyone else feel that the Fallout series has rather run its course now?

I've enjoyed playing Fo4, but I'm really struggling to stay engaged now and if it wasn't for the fact I'd bought the Season Pass I probably wouldn't have bothered with the DLCs.

Also, the DLCs have stretched the premise to breaking point for me - we have way too much High Technology around which is completely at odds with the post-apocalyptic devastation. If society has rebuilt itself to the extent of being able to build robots, vaults, and the like then presumably it has rebuilt itself to the point where people can clear away dead bodies and bulldoze away rubble, rubbish and detritus, and not live in squalor with peeling paint and dirty floors.

[Wobbegong]

ClockworkCupcake said:

Anyone else feel that the Fallout series has rather run its course now?

I've enjoyed playing Fo4, but I'm really struggling to stay engaged now and if it wasn't for the fact I'd bought the Season Pass I probably wouldn't have bothered with the DLCs.

Also, the DLCs have stretched the premise to breaking point for me - we have way too much High Technology around which is completely at odds with the post-apocalyptic devastation. If society has rebuilt itself to the extent of being able to build robots, vaults, and the like then presumably it has rebuilt itself to the point where people can clear away dead bodies and bulldoze away rubble, rubbish and detritus, and not live in squalor with peeling paint and dirty floors.

I think they could revive it by going closer to the day of the bombs. Turn it into a proper survival game with the early days where groups were only just forming and towns were non-existent.

[ZedLeg]

Society hasn't rebuilt, some people have picked the bones of the old world and kept the good stuff for themselves. Folk like the institute and the BoS are actively holding people back by hoarding tech and in the institute's case destroying any attempt by people to further society.

I enjoy the Fallout games and reckon there are still stories to be told.

[Otispunkmeyer]

I was thinking about the FO games the other day

Never played 1 or 2 but 3 was my first one and that got me hooked. I enjoyed 3 and I really enjoyed New Vegas. Now that I have played 4 I reckon NV is actually the one that I'd rate as the best. 3 was good, but NV felt more vast and desolate. I've found 4 to be quite easy where 3 was harder because I was new to it and NV was hard because Cazzador's or whatever they were. Jesus they were hard to deal with.

Also felt like there was more to explore in NV, more vaults to dig into and find out about the grim experiments. I liked the Karma system too.

So I do hope another interim developer is going to take FO4 and make a another NV type game with it. Even the expansions for NV were good... bar Far Harbour the add-ons for FO4 have been a bit duff in my opinion.

[motorizer]

Otispunkmeyer said:

I was thinking about the FO games the other day

Never played 1 or 2 but 3 was my first one and that got me hooked. I enjoyed 3 and I really enjoyed New Vegas. Now that I have played 4 I reckon NV is actually the one that I'd rate as the best. 3 was good, but NV felt more vast and desolate. I've found 4 to be quite easy where 3 was harder because I was new to it and NV was hard because Cazzador's or whatever they were. Jesus they were hard to deal with.

Also felt like there was more to explore in NV, more vaults to dig into and find out about the grim experiments. I liked the Karma system too.

So I do hope another interim developer is going to take FO4 and make a another NV type game with it. Even the expansions for NV were good... bar Far Harbour the add-ons for FO4 have been a bit duff in my opinion.

I actually bought fallout 1 when it came out. The world was much more reactive than the later ones, almost evreything you did had repercussions down the line, I'd never played anything before that made your choices matter so much, for example you could arrange water deliveries to your vault, extending the time limit to find the chip for their water purifier (the game ended if they ran out of water) however this gave away the location of the vault, and unknown to you it shortened the time until the bad guys found out about it and invaded. The game didn't tell you this. Contrast that with megaton in fallout 3, yeah it was a big choice, but it was signposted a mile off, and they even told you in the previews.


In some ways the newer games feel a bit like a theme park set in the fallout world, I still enjoy them though, but I kind of wish for a game like the old ones.

Edited by motorizer on Thursday 1st September 12:32

Edited by motorizer on Thursday 1st September 12:32

[KingNothing]

There's talk of Obsidian working on or planning on working on another fallout game. New Vegas 2 hopefully.

[ClockworkCupcake]

Wobbegong said:

I think they could revive it by going closer to the day of the bombs. Turn it into a proper survival game with the early days where groups were only just forming and towns were non-existent.

Yes, that could work.

[ClockworkCupcake]

motorizer said:

In some ways the newer games feel a bit like a theme park set in the fallout world, I still enjoy them though, but I kind of wish for a game like the old ones.

That is a really good point, and an excellent analogy.

Fo3 was my first Fallout game, and I loved the post-apocalyptic vibe and the idea of humanity barely hanging on to civilisation by its fingertips. By contrast, New Vegas all seemed a little too cozy, with civilisation having largely re-established itself albeit with a lot of knowledge and technology lost, but still at least as civilised as Medieval times if not significantly more so. Fo4 is the same, but even more so with some factions having a lot of tech (BoS and Institute).

I get that it is only a game, and that it is there to entertain (and make money), and I get that some people really like it, but that's my feeling & opinion on it.

[Mr Snrub]

ClockworkCupcake said:

Wobbegong said:

I think they could revive it by going closer to the day of the bombs. Turn it into a proper survival game with the early days where groups were only just forming and towns were non-existent.

Yes, that could work.

Be nice to see one set outside the USA as well. Since there's no long range communication they could create whatever factions and wildlife they wanted to

[ClockworkCupcake]

Mr Snrub said:

Be nice to see one set outside the USA as well. Since there's no long range communication they could create whatever factions and wildlife they wanted to

Another great idea.

[ClockworkCupcake]

ZedLeg said:

Society hasn't rebuilt, some people have picked the bones of the old world and kept the good stuff for themselves. Folk like the institute and the BoS are actively holding people back by hoarding tech and in the institute's case destroying any attempt by people to further society.

It depends what you mean by society. Caesar and his Legion are a fully established society, based on that of Ancient Rome. The NCR is a well organised society with a government (central *and* regional), army, agriculture, and the like.

I'd say society has pretty well rebuilt in the Fallout universe.

[ZedLeg]

Aye but the Legion are just trying to grab what they can and sit on it. There are areas that are better like the Hub but as soon as someone like the NCR tries to expand and civilise they get attacked by psychos who want to steal their st.

[Mr Snrub]

The Cappy in a Haystack quest is well worth doing as it has a good payoff. Nice that they included a Fallout 3 character as well, who as far as I know is the only one to appear in more than one game?

[davepoth]

Mr Snrub said:

The Cappy in a Haystack quest is well worth doing as it has a good payoff. Nice that they included a Fallout 3 character as well, who as far as I know is the only one to appear in more than one game?

Nope. You have

Robert McReady, who was Mayor of Little Lamplight in FO3
Madison Li, who worked at Rivet City in FO3
Elder Maxson, who was a young boy in FO3
Liberty Prime
Harold, who was in FO1, 2 and 3 (he's a tree in FO3)
Dr Henry, who was in FO2 and NV
Marcus in FO2 and NV

Plus lots of people who have been named but didn't appear.

[motorizer]

davepoth said:

Nope. You have

Robert McReady, who was Mayor of Little Lamplight in FO3
Madison Li, who worked at Rivet City in FO3
Elder Maxson, who was a young boy in FO3
Liberty Prime
Harold, who was in FO1, 2 and 3 (he's a tree in FO3)
Dr Henry, who was in FO2 and NV
Marcus in FO2 and NV

Plus lots of people who have been named but didn't appear.

And Tandi, who was in 1 and 2